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		<title>By: Cetyl alcohol in cosmetics.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cetyl alcohol in cosmetics.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Mary kay cosmetics.&lt;/strong&gt;

Merle norman cosmetics studio. Bare essentials cosmetics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Mary kay cosmetics.</strong></p>
<p>Merle norman cosmetics studio. Bare essentials cosmetics.</p>
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		<title>By: SanctumSanctorumComix</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/06/top-200-marvel-characters-121-140/comment-page-1/#comment-262384</link>
		<dc:creator>SanctumSanctorumComix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moondragon was always a good character.
Her term with the New Defenders was particularly full of comic-book-pathos (she had to learn how to be more humble and deal with the power-regulating headband that Odin slapped on her for being such a haughty pain-in-the-ass).

Valkyrie had to mentor her in being a better person, but the limiting power levels didn&#039;t stop her from getting her way.
She&#039;d use her feminine whiles to manipulate the men of the team (Angel &amp; Ice-Man were practically fighting over her attentions).

Her inflated sense of self was always her strongest strength &amp; greatest weakness, because no matter what she was up against, or how low her power level at the time, she still felt like she was queen of the universe.

Plus, with her hubris and Machiavellian sense of values, you could never know for sure whether she was a hero or villain in any specific instance.
She wasn&#039;t 2-dimensional and wouldn&#039;t act in a &quot;pre-formatted&quot; way.
Different scenarios evoked different reactions or responses.

ALL you would know was that she&#039;d most likely be a celf-centered prima-donna. But, she even bucked THAT on occasion.

Definitely one of the more &quot;sexy&quot; female characters at Marvel.

The addition of the &quot;bi&quot;/lesbian angle was an intriguing and logical next step in her characterization.

I wanted to buy the whole ANNIHILATION saga (she being one huge reason), but I had to draw the line (for the sake of my wallet) somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moondragon was always a good character.<br />
Her term with the New Defenders was particularly full of comic-book-pathos (she had to learn how to be more humble and deal with the power-regulating headband that Odin slapped on her for being such a haughty pain-in-the-ass).</p>
<p>Valkyrie had to mentor her in being a better person, but the limiting power levels didn't stop her from getting her way.<br />
She'd use her feminine whiles to manipulate the men of the team (Angel &amp; Ice-Man were practically fighting over her attentions).</p>
<p>Her inflated sense of self was always her strongest strength &amp; greatest weakness, because no matter what she was up against, or how low her power level at the time, she still felt like she was queen of the universe.</p>
<p>Plus, with her hubris and Machiavellian sense of values, you could never know for sure whether she was a hero or villain in any specific instance.<br />
She wasn't 2-dimensional and wouldn't act in a "pre-formatted" way.<br />
Different scenarios evoked different reactions or responses.</p>
<p>ALL you would know was that she'd most likely be a celf-centered prima-donna. But, she even bucked THAT on occasion.</p>
<p>Definitely one of the more "sexy" female characters at Marvel.</p>
<p>The addition of the "bi"/lesbian angle was an intriguing and logical next step in her characterization.</p>
<p>I wanted to buy the whole ANNIHILATION saga (she being one huge reason), but I had to draw the line (for the sake of my wallet) somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Colossus 2000</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/06/top-200-marvel-characters-121-140/comment-page-1/#comment-261402</link>
		<dc:creator>Colossus 2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is a jerk, but why would you vote for her? She&#039;s not a cool jerk like The Captain or the Irredemable Ant-Man. They are fun jerks.

And whats this about her and Marlo Chandler? I kinda dropped out for a while, is Marlo still married to Rick Jones? This wasn&#039;t PAD taking his fav characters into other titles again was it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is a jerk, but why would you vote for her? She's not a cool jerk like The Captain or the Irredemable Ant-Man. They are fun jerks.</p>
<p>And whats this about her and Marlo Chandler? I kinda dropped out for a while, is Marlo still married to Rick Jones? This wasn't PAD taking his fav characters into other titles again was it?</p>
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		<title>By: buttler</title>
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		<dc:creator>buttler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I enjoy Moondragon&#039;s churlishness, although I haven&#039;t read any of her recent big gay adventures with the new Quasar so I don&#039;t know if she&#039;s suddenly a more sympathetic character.   

But yeah, the Thor-raping storyline was particularly choice.  You just don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I enjoy Moondragon's churlishness, although I haven't read any of her recent big gay adventures with the new Quasar so I don't know if she's suddenly a more sympathetic character.   </p>
<p>But yeah, the Thor-raping storyline was particularly choice.  You just don't <i>do</i> that.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Coke</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/06/top-200-marvel-characters-121-140/comment-page-1/#comment-261132</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Coke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No dissing Moondragon.  She&#039;s one of the hard-to-get-along with characters, because she&#039;s arrogant and prissy.

I like when she conquered a world and when she was convinced only Thor deserved to be her consort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No dissing Moondragon.  She's one of the hard-to-get-along with characters, because she's arrogant and prissy.</p>
<p>I like when she conquered a world and when she was convinced only Thor deserved to be her consort.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Coke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Coke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see Miguel O&#039;Hara show up.  Wondering where he&#039;d place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see Miguel O'Hara show up.  Wondering where he'd place.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen cade</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen cade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally Aunt May shows up.

And that comic was the best Assistant Editor&#039;s Month issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally Aunt May shows up.</p>
<p>And that comic was the best Assistant Editor's Month issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott MacIver</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/06/top-200-marvel-characters-121-140/comment-page-1/#comment-260979</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott MacIver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Juggy. I thought he had more love than that.</description>
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		<title>By: mrjayberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrjayberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first Blade movie was a good call.  All my friends like it and since Blade looked like a doofus on the cover of his comic book I&#039;ve never read it. So whatever you call that geek thing were you get annoyed at plot diffrences tween comic and movie didn&#039;t tingle once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first Blade movie was a good call.  All my friends like it and since Blade looked like a doofus on the cover of his comic book I've never read it. So whatever you call that geek thing were you get annoyed at plot diffrences tween comic and movie didn't tingle once.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Collins</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/06/top-200-marvel-characters-121-140/comment-page-1/#comment-260961</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Loughlin said:
&quot;Yes, M is the same as Monet.&quot;

Thanks! I thought as much, but I wasn&#039;t 100% sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Loughlin said:<br />
"Yes, M is the same as Monet."</p>
<p>Thanks! I thought as much, but I wasn't 100% sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Collins</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/06/top-200-marvel-characters-121-140/comment-page-1/#comment-260960</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buttler said:
&quot;And sure she has a personality. Sheâ€™s a jerk.&quot;

And a lesbian apparently, or at least bisexual, as she once seduced Rick Jones&#039; hot wife away from him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buttler said:<br />
"And sure she has a personality. Sheâ€™s a jerk."</p>
<p>And a lesbian apparently, or at least bisexual, as she once seduced Rick Jones' hot wife away from him...</p>
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		<title>By: buttler</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/06/top-200-marvel-characters-121-140/comment-page-1/#comment-260706</link>
		<dc:creator>buttler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moondragon&#039;s powers are just as definable as any other Marvel telepath -- which is to say kind of definable, depending on a story&#039;s needs.

And sure she has a persoanlity.  She&#039;s a jerk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moondragon's powers are just as definable as any other Marvel telepath -- which is to say kind of definable, depending on a story's needs.</p>
<p>And sure she has a persoanlity.  She's a jerk.</p>
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		<title>By: Colossus 2000</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/06/top-200-marvel-characters-121-140/comment-page-1/#comment-260694</link>
		<dc:creator>Colossus 2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moondragon? Really?

My first real comics indulgence was the Infinity Gauntlet / War / Crusade, and the following Warlock stuff, and I always hated her. Pip, Drax, Gamora, all cool. Moondragon. Not cool.

No personality to speak of. No definable powers. 

Waste of votes people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moondragon? Really?</p>
<p>My first real comics indulgence was the Infinity Gauntlet / War / Crusade, and the following Warlock stuff, and I always hated her. Pip, Drax, Gamora, all cool. Moondragon. Not cool.</p>
<p>No personality to speak of. No definable powers. </p>
<p>Waste of votes people.</p>
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		<title>By: This Person</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A first place vote for Wolfsbane? I didn&#039;t even know she had fans..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A first place vote for Wolfsbane? I didn't even know she had fans..</p>
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		<title>By: buttler</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/06/top-200-marvel-characters-121-140/comment-page-1/#comment-260446</link>
		<dc:creator>buttler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acespot: Squirrel Girl was number 59, so if we&#039;re waiting around it&#039;s just for a few of her favorite squirrels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acespot: Squirrel Girl was number 59, so if we're waiting around it's just for a few of her favorite squirrels.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/06/top-200-marvel-characters-121-140/comment-page-1/#comment-260432</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to see characters like Blade that Marvel obviously put a lot of stock in this far down.  It&#039;s the same with Steel on the DC list.  Both have even had movie money thrown at them (granted not a lot in Steel&#039;s case!).  Maybe it&#039;s time for Marvel to look at which characters are actually popular with the fans (i.e squirrel girl...sigh) if they want to make a bigger return at the box office.....ohhh..I get it vampires sell in General to a wider audience ...I blame the Buffy factor...pah too many kids wearing black and wearing tights on their arms, make-up, piercings etc....whats wrong with cheesecloth shirts and twill trousers...open-toed sandals...blah blah etc

Ultimate Nick Fury, ahead of Ultimate Iron Man...I think not!  Actually I don&#039;t care about that, I&#039;m not really into the whole &#039;Ultimates&#039; thang.  Marvel Universe was cool enough without reinventing it yet again...mumble mumble.

Still Man-Thing....cool.  He is a character...just one made of twigs and mud is all.  He&#039;s got more personality than Cable for Chrissakes!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's interesting to see characters like Blade that Marvel obviously put a lot of stock in this far down.  It's the same with Steel on the DC list.  Both have even had movie money thrown at them (granted not a lot in Steel's case!).  Maybe it's time for Marvel to look at which characters are actually popular with the fans (i.e squirrel girl...sigh) if they want to make a bigger return at the box office.....ohhh..I get it vampires sell in General to a wider audience ...I blame the Buffy factor...pah too many kids wearing black and wearing tights on their arms, make-up, piercings etc....whats wrong with cheesecloth shirts and twill trousers...open-toed sandals...blah blah etc</p>
<p>Ultimate Nick Fury, ahead of Ultimate Iron Man...I think not!  Actually I don't care about that, I'm not really into the whole 'Ultimates' thang.  Marvel Universe was cool enough without reinventing it yet again...mumble mumble.</p>
<p>Still Man-Thing....cool.  He is a character...just one made of twigs and mud is all.  He's got more personality than Cable for Chrissakes!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Though, as much as it pains me to admit, I think the 44 points does not represent 44 people. He would get multiple points for each person, depending on when he was on their lists, I believe. Right Brian?&lt;/blockquote&gt; You are correct, Jordan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Though, as much as it pains me to admit, I think the 44 points does not represent 44 people. He would get multiple points for each person, depending on when he was on their lists, I believe. Right Brian?</p></blockquote>
<p> You are correct, Jordan!</p>
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		<title>By: Biggles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franklin Richards, Galactus and a glowing Aunt May. Now thats a comic !

And yes, Man-Thing is a character, obiviously</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franklin Richards, Galactus and a glowing Aunt May. Now thats a comic !</p>
<p>And yes, Man-Thing is a character, obiviously</p>
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		<title>By: acespot</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/06/top-200-marvel-characters-121-140/comment-page-1/#comment-260295</link>
		<dc:creator>acespot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FINALLY!!!   MIGGY!!!  My #1.

And yes, he&#039;s tons cooler than Juggy.  So there.
I&#039;m talking about the Peter David version.  Chris Claremont wrote him recently as if he were merely an alternate universe version of Peter Parker, even going so far as to fabricate a completely out-of-character Gwen Stacy/Mary Jane relationship for him!  Fuck the hell?  And then he wrote him out in a story that made absofuckinglutely no sense whatsoever.  Chris Claremont sucks.  Please, do us all a favor, and retire.

Also showing up here, my #5, Morph.

Interesting that both the DC and Marvel batches this time around had my #1 and #5 picks.

I miss Nextwave too.  Of them, I picked Aaron Stack/Machine Man/X-51, as my #7.

Is Squirrel Girl EVER going to show up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FINALLY!!!   MIGGY!!!  My #1.</p>
<p>And yes, he's tons cooler than Juggy.  So there.<br />
I'm talking about the Peter David version.  Chris Claremont wrote him recently as if he were merely an alternate universe version of Peter Parker, even going so far as to fabricate a completely out-of-character Gwen Stacy/Mary Jane relationship for him!  Fuck the hell?  And then he wrote him out in a story that made absofuckinglutely no sense whatsoever.  Chris Claremont sucks.  Please, do us all a favor, and retire.</p>
<p>Also showing up here, my #5, Morph.</p>
<p>Interesting that both the DC and Marvel batches this time around had my #1 and #5 picks.</p>
<p>I miss Nextwave too.  Of them, I picked Aaron Stack/Machine Man/X-51, as my #7.</p>
<p>Is Squirrel Girl EVER going to show up?</p>
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		<title>By: SanctumSanctorumComix</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanctumSanctorumComix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theno,

Under MUCH of his published history, you would probably be correct in your belief that Man-Thing is more plot-device than character.
Far too many of his appearances have him relegated to the role of &quot;watcher&quot; and &quot;focal point&quot;, or worse; &quot;the tree-stump Spectre&quot;, where he senses &quot;evil&quot; and burns its cowardly lot.

However, there HAVE been some stories where the muck (and tired tropes) part from his mind long enough for the MAN to come forth.

In some instances he is found to be a flawed and unlikable person.
In others, he is shown to have depth and heroic capacity.

He almost NEVER is the &quot;I-will-do-the-right-thing-for-right-thing&#039;s-sake&quot; type of hero, but is instead a very relatable character, full of all our strengths and weaknesses and fears.

He is US, thrown into the worst possible situation.
In some sense, like ANY man (or a child) drafted into war and thrown all alone into an unfathomable landscape to battle an ever-changing enemy with ONLY survival as his ultimate goal.
And yet, even then, he has been given some &quot;depth&quot; of character by doing what might not be in HIS best interest if it is instead needed by someone under his protection.

Sadly, it&#039;s a rare instance when a writer will do so with him, but it has happened and those are good tales.

One failing, however, is that by the end of the issue, ANY growth and understanding that he has made is lost into the dim recesses of his mind, so that by the start of the next issue, there is only the tabula-rasa again, where the next series of events will prompt a new set of actions &amp; reactions from him.

This COULD be used as a writing strength, as one instance might evoke a completely different response than a similar one might have earlier, thus removing any traditional reactions, but instead, newly learned ones each and every time.
Much like someone who constantly loses their memory (what was that movie...&quot;MOMENTO&quot;?) must re-evaluate every event and their take on it.

Sadly, this has never been properly followed up on in his tales.


However, even as a nearly MINDLESS empath he is not without the lure of viewer empathy and likability.

Sure, nearly all of his stories are dictated in a 2nd or 3rd person narrative style, with his actions and motivations stated to the reader, but even in THIS is shown some depth within the murky mire of his brain.

While he is nearly devoid of higher cognisance and motivation, even within his &quot;lower life-form&quot; level of awareness he has been shown to possess actual &quot;character&quot;.

I am reminded of an old French film called &quot;THE RED BALLOON&quot;, where a lonely young boy is befriended by a balloon.
The balloon follows him and reacts to him and even ACTS on its own in it&#039;s empathy towards the young boy&#039;s needs, and damn if the viewer doesn&#039;t begin to LOVE the BALLOON.
(This, of course, depends on the viewer not being cold and cut off from their emotions.)

To a MUCH lesser degree (for anyone who has never seen &quot;The RED BALLOON&quot;) is the &quot;character&quot; of &quot;WILSON&quot;, the soccer-ball &quot;companion&quot; of Tom Hanks&#039; character in the film &quot;CAST AWAY&quot;.
The major difference here, however, is that &quot;Wilson&quot; NEVER emotes ANY character of his own, but instead has it superimposed UPON &quot;him&quot; by the tortured and lonely mind of Hanks. When &quot;Wilson&quot; is lost at sea, no one in the theatre was unaffected by the sense of loss.
They were made to care for the &quot;character&quot;, while there NEVER was one at all.

The RED BALLOON, and MAN-THING, however, DO have their own CHARACTER, despite their overall existence as &quot;plot device&quot;.

Man-Thing is a character in much the same way as the balloon.
One that reflects our own (and the writer&#039;s) humanity back upon us.
Almost as a distorted mirror or ourselves (or the writer or characters in the story).

To appreciate HIM as a character is to appreciate OURSELVES as well.

Of course, THAT really relies upon the reader having a properly balanced sense of &quot;right and wrong&quot; so that they can also see what is tormenting the Man-Thing.

If a reader is distant (any puppy-kickers in the audience?), then they will not understand the &quot;character&quot; of the Man-Thing as social-conscience.

Of course, I&#039;m SURE this will open up discussion as to how much of a sap I am (guilty!) and/or how pretentious or erroneous my views are.

That&#039;s fine.
I don&#039;t claim to be RIGHT.
These are merely my opinions and &quot;takes&quot; on it all.

Your mileage, as they say, may vary.

~P~
P-TOR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theno,</p>
<p>Under MUCH of his published history, you would probably be correct in your belief that Man-Thing is more plot-device than character.<br />
Far too many of his appearances have him relegated to the role of "watcher" and "focal point", or worse; "the tree-stump Spectre", where he senses "evil" and burns its cowardly lot.</p>
<p>However, there HAVE been some stories where the muck (and tired tropes) part from his mind long enough for the MAN to come forth.</p>
<p>In some instances he is found to be a flawed and unlikable person.<br />
In others, he is shown to have depth and heroic capacity.</p>
<p>He almost NEVER is the "I-will-do-the-right-thing-for-right-thing's-sake" type of hero, but is instead a very relatable character, full of all our strengths and weaknesses and fears.</p>
<p>He is US, thrown into the worst possible situation.<br />
In some sense, like ANY man (or a child) drafted into war and thrown all alone into an unfathomable landscape to battle an ever-changing enemy with ONLY survival as his ultimate goal.<br />
And yet, even then, he has been given some "depth" of character by doing what might not be in HIS best interest if it is instead needed by someone under his protection.</p>
<p>Sadly, it's a rare instance when a writer will do so with him, but it has happened and those are good tales.</p>
<p>One failing, however, is that by the end of the issue, ANY growth and understanding that he has made is lost into the dim recesses of his mind, so that by the start of the next issue, there is only the tabula-rasa again, where the next series of events will prompt a new set of actions &amp; reactions from him.</p>
<p>This COULD be used as a writing strength, as one instance might evoke a completely different response than a similar one might have earlier, thus removing any traditional reactions, but instead, newly learned ones each and every time.<br />
Much like someone who constantly loses their memory (what was that movie..."MOMENTO"?) must re-evaluate every event and their take on it.</p>
<p>Sadly, this has never been properly followed up on in his tales.</p>
<p>However, even as a nearly MINDLESS empath he is not without the lure of viewer empathy and likability.</p>
<p>Sure, nearly all of his stories are dictated in a 2nd or 3rd person narrative style, with his actions and motivations stated to the reader, but even in THIS is shown some depth within the murky mire of his brain.</p>
<p>While he is nearly devoid of higher cognisance and motivation, even within his "lower life-form" level of awareness he has been shown to possess actual "character".</p>
<p>I am reminded of an old French film called "THE RED BALLOON", where a lonely young boy is befriended by a balloon.<br />
The balloon follows him and reacts to him and even ACTS on its own in it's empathy towards the young boy's needs, and damn if the viewer doesn't begin to LOVE the BALLOON.<br />
(This, of course, depends on the viewer not being cold and cut off from their emotions.)</p>
<p>To a MUCH lesser degree (for anyone who has never seen "The RED BALLOON") is the "character" of "WILSON", the soccer-ball "companion" of Tom Hanks' character in the film "CAST AWAY".<br />
The major difference here, however, is that "Wilson" NEVER emotes ANY character of his own, but instead has it superimposed UPON "him" by the tortured and lonely mind of Hanks. When "Wilson" is lost at sea, no one in the theatre was unaffected by the sense of loss.<br />
They were made to care for the "character", while there NEVER was one at all.</p>
<p>The RED BALLOON, and MAN-THING, however, DO have their own CHARACTER, despite their overall existence as "plot device".</p>
<p>Man-Thing is a character in much the same way as the balloon.<br />
One that reflects our own (and the writer's) humanity back upon us.<br />
Almost as a distorted mirror or ourselves (or the writer or characters in the story).</p>
<p>To appreciate HIM as a character is to appreciate OURSELVES as well.</p>
<p>Of course, THAT really relies upon the reader having a properly balanced sense of "right and wrong" so that they can also see what is tormenting the Man-Thing.</p>
<p>If a reader is distant (any puppy-kickers in the audience?), then they will not understand the "character" of the Man-Thing as social-conscience.</p>
<p>Of course, I'm SURE this will open up discussion as to how much of a sap I am (guilty!) and/or how pretentious or erroneous my views are.</p>
<p>That's fine.<br />
I don't claim to be RIGHT.<br />
These are merely my opinions and "takes" on it all.</p>
<p>Your mileage, as they say, may vary.</p>
<p>~P~<br />
P-TOR</p>
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