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	<title>Comments on: 11/17 &#8211; Curious Cat Asks&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Lynxara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynxara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to say that 52 had a &quot;Justice League&quot;, primarily made of C-Listers. A good portion of the characters died, and the ones who didn&#039;t got chewed out by the &quot;real&quot; Justice League in one of the most obnoxious scenes in the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to say that 52 had a &#8220;Justice League&#8221;, primarily made of C-Listers. A good portion of the characters died, and the ones who didn&#8217;t got chewed out by the &#8220;real&#8221; Justice League in one of the most obnoxious scenes in the series.</p>
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		<title>By: Starleafgirl</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/17/1117-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-309659</link>
		<dc:creator>Starleafgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 03:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I leave and people start talking about Excelsior/Loners! I love that band of misfit heroes! Anyway, I&#039;ve got nothing to add, as all the proper information has already been given out regarding the past (=always planned to be a mini) and future (=Marvel Holiday Special+pitched second [mini?]series) of The Loners. I only hope it involves more of Penance (from Generation X!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I leave and people start talking about Excelsior/Loners! I love that band of misfit heroes! Anyway, I&#8217;ve got nothing to add, as all the proper information has already been given out regarding the past (=always planned to be a mini) and future (=Marvel Holiday Special+pitched second [mini?]series) of The Loners. I only hope it involves more of Penance (from Generation X!)</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/17/1117-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-308710</link>
		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Force Works had a first issue death, X-Men 2099 killed off a character quite early, complete with cover announcement, The new New Warriors just lost one of their members, etc.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Force Works was bizzarre in that he didn&#039;t come back right away, when it felt like that&#039;s what they were setting it up for.

However, I&#039;ll give X-men 2099 a free pass - they were all new characters, and although it was a bit of a &#039;Women In Refrigerators&#039; moment, it did help show that it was a dangerous world etc etc, and also, up until then, that characters only point had been to introduce the main character to different aspects of their world, so once he was on the team, there was no need for her.

Ok, ok, I was young and really enjoyed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Force Works had a first issue death, X-Men 2099 killed off a character quite early, complete with cover announcement, The new New Warriors just lost one of their members, etc.</p></blockquote>
<p>Force Works was bizzarre in that he didn&#8217;t come back right away, when it felt like that&#8217;s what they were setting it up for.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ll give X-men 2099 a free pass &#8211; they were all new characters, and although it was a bit of a &#8216;Women In Refrigerators&#8217; moment, it did help show that it was a dangerous world etc etc, and also, up until then, that characters only point had been to introduce the main character to different aspects of their world, so once he was on the team, there was no need for her.</p>
<p>Ok, ok, I was young and really enjoyed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/17/1117-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-308390</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was MVP who died in &quot;the Initative&quot;. Just pointing that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was MVP who died in &#8220;the Initative&#8221;. Just pointing that out.</p>
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		<title>By: Master Mahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Master Mahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Force Works had a first issue death, X-Men 2099 killed off a character quite early, complete with cover announcement, The new New Warriors just lost one of their members, etc.

Really, it&#039;s been an industry clichÃ© at least since Grant Morrison penned Doom Force, where the declaration of character death was written on a giant arrow pointing at the blatantly useless one.

Interesting that Power Boy&#039;s fate involved his costume&#039;s chest hole, though. I&#039;m not sure if that&#039;s irreverent or tasteless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Force Works had a first issue death, X-Men 2099 killed off a character quite early, complete with cover announcement, The new New Warriors just lost one of their members, etc.</p>
<p>Really, it&#8217;s been an industry clichÃ© at least since Grant Morrison penned Doom Force, where the declaration of character death was written on a giant arrow pointing at the blatantly useless one.</p>
<p>Interesting that Power Boy&#8217;s fate involved his costume&#8217;s chest hole, though. I&#8217;m not sure if that&#8217;s irreverent or tasteless.</p>
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		<title>By: joshschr</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/17/1117-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-306392</link>
		<dc:creator>joshschr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golden Lad (or whatever his name was) died in the first issue of The Initiative to show how dangerously undertrained some superpeople are.  You could tell in advance that his time was up because they spent half the issue showing how powerful he was and what a great superhero he&#039;d be some day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golden Lad (or whatever his name was) died in the first issue of The Initiative to show how dangerously undertrained some superpeople are.  You could tell in advance that his time was up because they spent half the issue showing how powerful he was and what a great superhero he&#8217;d be some day.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget the superhero team in the first issue of Hitman, which Tommy Monaghan extinguished in about half a panel. Their battle cry, before being usmamrily executed, was &quot;let&#039;s make a difference!&quot; 

It&#039;s Garth Ennis&#039;s world. We only live in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the superhero team in the first issue of Hitman, which Tommy Monaghan extinguished in about half a panel. Their battle cry, before being usmamrily executed, was &#8220;let&#8217;s make a difference!&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s Garth Ennis&#8217;s world. We only live in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephane Savoie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephane Savoie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...except that makes no sense from an R&amp;D perspective (which is what comic companies are these days).  You create more, or try to bring to prominence the old, rather than sweeping away everything that&#039;s not A-list.
  Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;except that makes no sense from an R&amp;D perspective (which is what comic companies are these days).  You create more, or try to bring to prominence the old, rather than sweeping away everything that&#8217;s not A-list.<br />
  Right?</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/17/1117-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-304885</link>
		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;think comics, in more recent years, have been trying to show that the major teams, the ones people buy every month, are really a step above your ordinary superheroes and what better way to do that then to have the â€œordinaryâ€ costumed folks get maimed or killed? Sigh.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wonder if that has anything to do with licensing - we&#039;ll make you like the characters we want you to like by giving you no choice.
I mean no one but a comic fan has love for the JLI, so their no good for toys/bed sheets, so why keep them around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>think comics, in more recent years, have been trying to show that the major teams, the ones people buy every month, are really a step above your ordinary superheroes and what better way to do that then to have the â€œordinaryâ€ costumed folks get maimed or killed? Sigh.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder if that has anything to do with licensing &#8211; we&#8217;ll make you like the characters we want you to like by giving you no choice.<br />
I mean no one but a comic fan has love for the JLI, so their no good for toys/bed sheets, so why keep them around?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Collins</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/17/1117-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-304742</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T. said:
&quot;Was Loners always meant to be a mini or did it get downgraded?&quot;

To the best of my knowledge, it was always planned as a mini. Unlike Omega Flight, which DID get downgraded. However, even Quesada has admitted to being pleasantly surprised at how well received Loners has been. CB Cebulski has written a new Loners story for Marvel&#039;s upcoming Holiday Special and is lobbying for a second series (mini or regular).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T. said:<br />
&#8220;Was Loners always meant to be a mini or did it get downgraded?&#8221;</p>
<p>To the best of my knowledge, it was always planned as a mini. Unlike Omega Flight, which DID get downgraded. However, even Quesada has admitted to being pleasantly surprised at how well received Loners has been. CB Cebulski has written a new Loners story for Marvel&#8217;s upcoming Holiday Special and is lobbying for a second series (mini or regular).</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 00:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was Loners always meant to be a mini or did it get downgraded?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Loners always meant to be a mini or did it get downgraded?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill D. said:
&quot;I was shocked that the Excelsior folks (Turbo, Darkhawk, Katie Power, Ricochet) not only survived their appearance in Runaways, but got their own spin-off mini.

Which, come to think of it, I didnâ€™t readâ€¦ did they survive that one, too?&quot;

The last issue of Loners comes out next week, but so far, yes, they have all survived and the series has become a fan favorite, thanks to well written stories fleshing out b and c-grade characters. Marvel has already said they plan on continuing their story in the future. I have to give the nod to Marvel on giving those characters a new lease on life and realizing they had potential, rather than take the current DC approach of &quot;Oooohh, who cares about developing new/forgotten characters, what we have here is some more cannon fodder...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill D. said:<br />
&#8220;I was shocked that the Excelsior folks (Turbo, Darkhawk, Katie Power, Ricochet) not only survived their appearance in Runaways, but got their own spin-off mini.</p>
<p>Which, come to think of it, I didnâ€™t readâ€¦ did they survive that one, too?&#8221;</p>
<p>The last issue of Loners comes out next week, but so far, yes, they have all survived and the series has become a fan favorite, thanks to well written stories fleshing out b and c-grade characters. Marvel has already said they plan on continuing their story in the future. I have to give the nod to Marvel on giving those characters a new lease on life and realizing they had potential, rather than take the current DC approach of &#8220;Oooohh, who cares about developing new/forgotten characters, what we have here is some more cannon fodder&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Seavey said:
&quot;For my money, yes, Iâ€™m pretty thoroughly jaded by the â€œdeath, death, death, death, sausage, bacon and deathâ€ trend, and wish these guys would find something else to do.&quot;

Bloody Vikings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Seavey said:<br />
&#8220;For my money, yes, Iâ€™m pretty thoroughly jaded by the â€œdeath, death, death, death, sausage, bacon and deathâ€ trend, and wish these guys would find something else to do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bloody Vikings.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/17/1117-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-303108</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was Julie, not Katie in Excelsior. Vaughn really treated them surprisingly well. I mean, Darkhawk took down ULTRON.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was Julie, not Katie in Excelsior. Vaughn really treated them surprisingly well. I mean, Darkhawk took down ULTRON.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was shocked that the Excelsior folks (Turbo, Darkhawk, Katie Power, Ricochet) not only survived their appearance in Runaways, but got their own spin-off mini.

Which, come to think of it, I didn&#039;t read... did they survive that one, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was shocked that the Excelsior folks (Turbo, Darkhawk, Katie Power, Ricochet) not only survived their appearance in Runaways, but got their own spin-off mini.</p>
<p>Which, come to think of it, I didn&#8217;t read&#8230; did they survive that one, too?</p>
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		<title>By: Starleafgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starleafgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s more surprising if they survive, yeah. Which is too bad because I think I remember a time when comics really weren&#039;t quite that morbid, lol. I think comics, in more recent years, have been trying to show that the major teams, the ones people buy every month, are really a step above your ordinary superheroes and what better way to do that then to have the &quot;ordinary&quot; costumed folks get maimed or killed? Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more surprising if they survive, yeah. Which is too bad because I think I remember a time when comics really weren&#8217;t quite that morbid, lol. I think comics, in more recent years, have been trying to show that the major teams, the ones people buy every month, are really a step above your ordinary superheroes and what better way to do that then to have the &#8220;ordinary&#8221; costumed folks get maimed or killed? Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first issue of the Order had many of the lead characters fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first issue of the Order had many of the lead characters fired.</p>
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		<title>By: John Cage</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised if a team of minor superheroes shows up and survives the issue. As much as it pains me to realize that&#039;s actually the case these days.

Have a good day.
John Cage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised if a team of minor superheroes shows up and survives the issue. As much as it pains me to realize that&#8217;s actually the case these days.</p>
<p>Have a good day.<br />
John Cage</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Rauch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Rauch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This also dates back to the all-new all-different X-Men, and happended again Marvel&#039;s Exiles and the X-Treme X-Men. I&#039;d say it&#039;s more surprising to survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This also dates back to the all-new all-different X-Men, and happended again Marvel&#8217;s Exiles and the X-Treme X-Men. I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s more surprising to survive.</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDeathBee</title>
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		<dc:creator>EvilDeathBee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the writer seems to be intent on separating the cast into star characters and redshirts, it isn&#039;t all that surprising to see the redshirts get taken down.

In a properly written book, there should be no &quot;redshirts&quot; at all. The one thing that really surprises me these days is someone taking the trouble to take a minor character and building him or her up into something bigger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the writer seems to be intent on separating the cast into star characters and redshirts, it isn&#8217;t all that surprising to see the redshirts get taken down.</p>
<p>In a properly written book, there should be no &#8220;redshirts&#8221; at all. The one thing that really surprises me these days is someone taking the trouble to take a minor character and building him or her up into something bigger.</p>
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