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Snark Free Corner for 12/17

Welcome to the latest installment of your breath of snark free air!

Enjoy!

GREAT SUPPORTING CAST MEMBERS

Reggie Mantle inhabits a special spot where few supporting characters adequately reside – the antagonist to the hero who is still a friend of the hero.

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Far too often, such characters end up going too far on one end or the other, like the way that Flash Thompson mellowed out during his relationship with Peter Parker.

Reggie has maintained the animosity between Archie and himself, but at the same time, he is not so evil that the two are not basically friends (and Reggie’s athleticism makes him perfect for sports stories).

In fact, I did a showdown between Reggie and Flash awhile back, and I’ll show you the results here, as I judged the two characters in eleven different categories, with the winner being the one with the most category nods.

Flash Thompson

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Reggie Mantle!!

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Individual Success – Both of them are good athletes, but Reggie has won many OTHER awards, while Flash…well…is a good athlete. Reggie is destined to be a successful businessman – Flash is a gym teacher after bumming through different jobs for years. Reggie takes this one! Reggie 1, Flash 0

Sales Success – Reggie has had about three titles over the years, all of which were canceled. However, I think HAVING his own title is still something to be proud of, especially when you’ve had three!! Flash has never had his own title…ever! Reggie takes this one! Reggie 2, Flash 0.

Complexity of Relationship – Both relationships (Flash and Peter, Reggie and Archie) are interesting because in both cases, the rivals (Peter and Archie) hang out with them even though they are really, really big jerks. What’s up with that? Of the two, though, only Flash ever actually explored the paradox (in a Steven Grant story where Flash asks, “Why ARE we friends?”). In addition, the whole “President of the Spider-Man fan club while hating Peter Parker” thing is tooo much. Flash takes this one! Reggie 2, Flash 1.

Fighting Ability – Flash went to war. Reggie gets beat up by Moose a LOT. Flash in a cake walk. Reggie 2, Flash 2.

Intelligence – Reggie is actually a good student at Riverdale High. In addition, he often comes up with quite elaborate pranks which require a lot of thought behind them. Flash? Well, he’s a moron. Reggie takes it! Reggie 3, Flash 2.

Most Likely to be Mistaken as the Hobgoblin – In a surprise upset, Flash Thompson, who actually WAS mistaken as the Hobgoblin for awhile, LOSES to Reggie Mantle!! But really, when you look at it, it should not come as such a surprise. After all, Flash is a moron who loves Spider-Man. Is he really going to be the guy who is going to be a criminal mastermind who hates Spider-Man?! Reggie is JUST devious enough to have the thought be in people’s minds. Reggie 4, Flash 2.

Longevity – Reggie’s first appearance was in 1942. Flash’s first appearance was in 1962. Reggie in a walk. Reggie 5, Flash 2.

Most Open-Minded – Reggie only dates popular white girls, although he DID have an interesting friendship with a Korean girl once. Flash was with a Vietnamese woman AND an ex-crook! In addition, Flash was able to see through the Daily Bugle’s hype and know that Spider-Man was a good guy! Flash wins! Reggie 5, Flash 3.

Better Ladies Man – Reggie gets rejected by girls that would obviously date Flash, so Flash takes this easily. Reggie 5, Flash 4.

Musical Ability – Reggie played lead guitar on “SUGAR, SUGAR”!!!! Flash can’t play the triangle. Reggie easily wins! Reggie 6, Flash 4.

Cooler Current Status – Reggie is currently vying with Archie for Betty and/or Veronica (or whatever hot new girl is in town), playing lead guitar in the Archies, and generally living the cake life. Flash is currently brain damaged and coaching high school gym.

Advantage – Reggie.

Reggie 7, Flash 4.

Reggie rules!!

COVER THEME GAME

As always, here is the game. I show three covers. They all have something in common, whether it be a character, a trait all three characters share, locale, creator, SOMEthing. And it isn’t something obvious like “They all have prices!” “They all have logos!” “They all feature a man!” etc.

In addition, please note that you must have some familiarity with comic book history to correctly guess these comics. You cannot guess the connective theme just by looking at the covers solely, you must have some knowledge beyond just the covers.

Good luck! A cool point to the first person to figure it out!

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SNARK FREE CHALLENGE

Okay, so Longshot flips a coin and he needs it to land on tails. If Black Cat (back when she had powers) is trying to get it NOT to happen, what side does the coin land on – heads or tails? Or does it land on its edge?

THE COVER GAME

This week’s game is as follows…

Find me a cover featuring Kyle AND Hal, only with no Parallax on the cover!!

Floating heads don’t count!! And those covers with “Every Justice Leaguer/Avenger ever!” don’t count, either!

Here is an example (which you can’t use! )….

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Remember, only one cover per commenter!

Good luck!

WHO IS IT?

Remember, tell me who it is and what number clue gave it away!

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5. This character has violet eyes, which is an important factor in determining her background.

Who is it?

Well, that’s it for this installment of Snark Free Corner.

Hope you had fun!

38 Comments

each cover contains a characters who was at one time a villain

Cover theme : Villains turned heroes? (Swordsman, Namor, Emma Frost)

Too obvious?

@#$% slow typing!

Yeah, a bit too obvious.

But just to be clear, I put up a new cover for the middle one!

You can still have a cool point, though, Anonymous!

Ha, I’m so used to these cover challenges being harder that my mind totally didn’t think of the most obvious answer!

Black Knight, Stingray, and Emma Frost are all from Massachusetts, Frost from Boston and Stingray and BK both from Gloucester.

What about the live-action depictions of Flash & Reggie? RETURN TO RIVERDALE’s Gary Kroeger vs. the fellow from the Raimi Spider-Man movies?

Is it just me or does Emma have a…ahem…”package” on that cover?

Longshot – I’m reminded of the Ultimate X-Men where he faced up against the Scarlet Witch. Good luck vs. Probability powers…

Longevity – Reggie’s first appearance was in 1942. Flash’s first appearance was in 1962. Reggie in a walk.

False premise. Flash can’t help that he was “born” 20 years after Reggie. By that logic Golden Arrow is better than Hawkeye, Ibis the Invincible better than Zatanna, etc. Any GA character is older than any SA or BA character.

What might sway the point to Reggie is that Reg has had more-or-less continuous adventures since then, whereas Flash has been only semi-recurring at best since The College Years. But even then I’m not sure that it’s a fair comparison, since Archie et al. have been in high school for 65 years. If Spider-Man had never progressed beyond high school would Flash have continued to be in his supporting cast?

Snark Free Challenge: It depends. Why does Longshot need the coin to land on tails? His powers function off of pure intentions, so if he and Black Cat are flipping the coin to decide if a baby lives or dies (no, I don’t know why Black Cat would want the baby to die, it’s an example, just run with it), then Longshot’s powers would definitely win out. If it was a contest over who got the last chocolate and vanilla Jello pudding pop, odds are Longshot’s luck wouldn’t really kick into high gear and Felicia would be able to affect the toss.

Cover game: Green Lantern Rebirth #6.

That’s not a *package*. It’s a “camel toe”.

Longshot versus Black Cat: A sudden Earthquake would open a rift in the Earth and swallow the coin into the depths of hell, such that none would EVER know what it had landed on, if at all – truly, landing in a pool of magma cannot be considered landing, as the coin would be melted nearly instantly.

Cover Challenge:
The “B” Cover for Green Lantern #100
http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=61949&zoom=4

Cover Game: Green Lantern (current series) #25. Either variant. I can’t find a good picture online, but it has both of them.

For the cover challenge, I admit this is a bit of a stretch, but all feature charcters that tried to come between a long standing comic book couple. Dane Whitman with Crystal (Crystal and Quicksilver), Tony Stark with Janet Van Dyne (Wasp and Yellowjacket/Hank Pym) and Emma Frost and Scott Summers (Cyclops and Phoenix). Like I said, a stretch. But true nonetheless.

For who is it, is it Jessica Jones? Or whatever the name of Luke Cage’s baby mama is?

And to keep going with my cover challenge theory, you could say the Swordsman tried to come between Mantis and the Vision, even though the Vision had no interest in her, and the Swordsman on this cover is from a different dimension.

Sorry, last one from me, I swear.

Snark Free Challenge: M Bloom summed it up pretty well. It all depends on why Longshot needs it to land on tails. If it’s for a “pure” reason, he’ll win.

Black Knight, Stingray, and Emma Frost are all from Massachusetts, Frost from Boston and Stingray and BK both from Gloucester.

Spot on!

Isn’t it hilarious that they’re BOTH from Gloucester? How has that never come up in a comic book?

Fair point, Lothor! It still ends up going to Reggie, though, right, so no harm no foul. But yes, good point!

Cover Game: Green Lantern 150 has all five of Earth’s Green Lanterns (including Alan Scott).

Reggie Rules. That is all.

I dunno, after looking at that Frank Quitely cover of Emma Frost for the umpteenth time, does it look like she’s a transevite rather than a volumptuous woman?

concering longevity in Reggie vs. Flash take that catagory out if you want Reggie still wins 6 to 4

On “most open minded” reading the Reggie wikipedia entry was his Korean girlfriend really albino?

Something else about those 3 covers besides being a former villain, is that they were all published by Marvel.

Character challenge: Is it Kate Bishop, the current Hawkeye?

Matthew Lazorwitz

December 18, 2007 at 7:53 am

Cover Challenge: Green Lantern #119, at least if Spectre-Hal counts.

The only character I can think of with violet eyes is Psylocke. While her costume is similar to Elektra’s, I don’t think she qualifies for the other three statements.

Isn’t it just wrong that Black Knight is using a lightsaber? CHALLANGE: Name another Marvel character to use a lightsaber on a cover. Star Wars comics don’t count.

White Queen cover: Not being snarky, just an observation – I never liked this particular cover. She has a square jaw, masculine protruding chin, asian features, and a horrible costume. She resembles more of a korean porn srat or stripper than a superhero.

Who is it ?

Is it Carol Fenris as Star Sapphire ?

Who is it? Tempest, former Aqualad

I know everybody loves Quitely, but that cover is hideous.

The coin would land on its edge, roll down a hill, and land at Domino’s feet.

Black Cat’s power was always a little goofy, and I think a coin flip is something more up Longshot’s alley. I think his power is more powerful than hers.

I like that X-Men Cover, despite all the naysayers.

Black Night’s laser sword was horrible. I think he should always wield the ebony blade.

HOW ABOUT…

Black KNIGHT
Mark BRIGHT
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Skin-TIGHT?

I don’t think Emma Frost was ever supposed to be voluptuous.

She’s supposed to look like she might shove her heel into your nuts if you use a bad pick-up line.

Is Emma Frost Reggie Mantles’ albino korean girlfriend? Avengers63 I was trying to put a finger on why I didn’t like that cover and it is the slightly asian features, so thanks for pointing that out.

My first thought was that all three covers featured characters with huge packages, but Dane’s leg is in the way.

So, then I thought that all three featured characters who turned on their own teams.

Dane Whitman betrayed the Avengers to Ultraforce during a Marvel / Malibu crossover (and became a Malibu character for a while, if I remember correctly.)
Iron Man turned on the Avengers many times. But, it was this Armor Wars situation that got me thinking in this direction.
And, didn’t Emma turn on the Hellfire Club in order to protect her Hellions?

Theno

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