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	<title>Comments on: Comics You Should Own - Grendel #13-23</title>
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		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-480336</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Grendel #13-23 by Matt Wagner, Bernie Mireault, Hannibal King, and Tim Sale. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chip Mosher</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-421335</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip Mosher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mage and Grendel are some of my favorites. I actually own a couple of Mage pages (from the first series) and I own a page from Wagner&#039;s original run on Grendel that was in black and white. I bought the issues you speak of here off the stands as they came out. There wasn&#039;t anything quite like Grendel at the time..Great stuff.

And Greg...GO READ MAGE TODAY. I dig the first series the most of all. It&#039;s the comic form at its best!

Chip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mage and Grendel are some of my favorites. I actually own a couple of Mage pages (from the first series) and I own a page from Wagner's original run on Grendel that was in black and white. I bought the issues you speak of here off the stands as they came out. There wasn't anything quite like Grendel at the time..Great stuff.</p>
<p>And Greg...GO READ MAGE TODAY. I dig the first series the most of all. It's the comic form at its best!</p>
<p>Chip</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Fitzpatrick</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-419944</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Liu, 

    Yes. It&#039;s supposed to be that way.
    In the original run (Comico), the text appeared back then.
    Dunno why it doesn&#039;t in the Image reprints, tho&#039; with all the advances that reprinting has made in this day and age.

    Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Liu, </p>
<p>    Yes. It's supposed to be that way.<br />
    In the original run (Comico), the text appeared back then.<br />
    Dunno why it doesn't in the Image reprints, tho' with all the advances that reprinting has made in this day and age.</p>
<p>    Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Liu</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-419437</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grendel #16-19 are two of my favorite Matt Wagner stories. He used the &quot;lots of tiny panels&quot; techniques in the first Batman/Grendel mini-series, too. However, does anybody else think that the DH reprinting of the Grendel #16-19 seems really washed out? 

And can&#039;t they do a reprint from actual comics if they&#039;re in good enough condition? I&#039;m pretty sure Comico sprung for better-quality paper than newsprint.

While we&#039;re talking about Wagner reprints, the giant Image reprint of &quot;Mage: The Hero Discovered&quot; also seemed to have a misprint I&#039;ve never seen acknowledged or corrected. In the scene when Edsel is using the magic ATM card, the Image reprint doesn&#039;t show the text she enters, while the original Starblaze oversized TPB reprints did. Is that supposed to be that way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grendel #16-19 are two of my favorite Matt Wagner stories. He used the "lots of tiny panels" techniques in the first Batman/Grendel mini-series, too. However, does anybody else think that the DH reprinting of the Grendel #16-19 seems really washed out? </p>
<p>And can't they do a reprint from actual comics if they're in good enough condition? I'm pretty sure Comico sprung for better-quality paper than newsprint.</p>
<p>While we're talking about Wagner reprints, the giant Image reprint of "Mage: The Hero Discovered" also seemed to have a misprint I've never seen acknowledged or corrected. In the scene when Edsel is using the magic ATM card, the Image reprint doesn't show the text she enters, while the original Starblaze oversized TPB reprints did. Is that supposed to be that way?</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-418230</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They did.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-418075</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, over the last year I&#039;ve managed to track down a near full-run of the Comico GRENDEL series - *except* for &quot;Devil&#039;s Reign&quot;.  I know its not out in trade, but Dark Horse DID reprint &quot;Reign&quot; a few years ago, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, over the last year I've managed to track down a near full-run of the Comico GRENDEL series - *except* for "Devil's Reign".  I know its not out in trade, but Dark Horse DID reprint "Reign" a few years ago, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-418073</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, man...I admit, the first time I read &quot;The Devil Inside&quot;, it scared the shit out of me.  Easily one of the most psychologically taut thrillers in comic history (IMHO, of course).  

Also, any one that&#039;s a GRENDEL fan should definitely track down the hardcover ART OF GRENDEL that came out a few months back.  It&#039;s a pricy 40 dollar hardback (mine was an X-Mas gift from my totally awesome mother), but it&#039;s absolutely worth it.  Beautiful stuff from Wagner and most of his collaborators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, man...I admit, the first time I read "The Devil Inside", it scared the shit out of me.  Easily one of the most psychologically taut thrillers in comic history (IMHO, of course).  </p>
<p>Also, any one that's a GRENDEL fan should definitely track down the hardcover ART OF GRENDEL that came out a few months back.  It's a pricy 40 dollar hardback (mine was an X-Mas gift from my totally awesome mother), but it's absolutely worth it.  Beautiful stuff from Wagner and most of his collaborators.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-418022</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Itâ€™s nice to know that Dark Horse reprinted (or will reprint) the latter part of the Comico run. I didnâ€™t see them on the Trade Paperback List I use or at Amazon, but itâ€™s good to know that they exist! &quot;

So far issues 23-40 have been reprinted as single issues. I heard God and Devil will be out next year. 

Looks like we&#039;re getting Batman/Grendel in March, Devils Quest in April and Devils Child in May. Hopefully God and Devil follows in the summer (or a reprint of Devils Tales which collects 16-19). Not sure if we get Devils Reign in TPB form this year but it&#039;d be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Itâ€™s nice to know that Dark Horse reprinted (or will reprint) the latter part of the Comico run. I didnâ€™t see them on the Trade Paperback List I use or at Amazon, but itâ€™s good to know that they exist! "</p>
<p>So far issues 23-40 have been reprinted as single issues. I heard God and Devil will be out next year. </p>
<p>Looks like we're getting Batman/Grendel in March, Devils Quest in April and Devils Child in May. Hopefully God and Devil follows in the summer (or a reprint of Devils Tales which collects 16-19). Not sure if we get Devils Reign in TPB form this year but it'd be nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-418015</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for Mage, the second series is way better than the first, and Iâ€™d love to own a trade of both, but when those came out, I wasnâ€™t interested in reading it, and now I am and the collections are nowhere to be found. &quot;

I&#039;ve seen them around in stores in NYC. I&#039;d keep looking. I&#039;m sure Wagner will eventually get to Mage III and they will reprint those books as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"As for Mage, the second series is way better than the first, and Iâ€™d love to own a trade of both, but when those came out, I wasnâ€™t interested in reading it, and now I am and the collections are nowhere to be found. "</p>
<p>I've seen them around in stores in NYC. I'd keep looking. I'm sure Wagner will eventually get to Mage III and they will reprint those books as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Fitzpatrick</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-417675</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Wagner once described his creation(s) in an interview, that MAGE was a dream of what could be, and that GRENDEL was the nightmare of what could be.

Grendel may be more interesting as its complexity is more machiavialian than Mage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Wagner once described his creation(s) in an interview, that MAGE was a dream of what could be, and that GRENDEL was the nightmare of what could be.</p>
<p>Grendel may be more interesting as its complexity is more machiavialian than Mage.</p>
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		<title>By: TimCallahan</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-417645</link>
		<dc:creator>TimCallahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Grendel is far more nuanced (and therefore interesting) than Mage, and I think that Greg is absolutely right to spotlight this batch of issues.  In my mind, these are the best Grendel issues of them all.  I especially love the Mireault run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Grendel is far more nuanced (and therefore interesting) than Mage, and I think that Greg is absolutely right to spotlight this batch of issues.  In my mind, these are the best Grendel issues of them all.  I especially love the Mireault run.</p>
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		<title>By: PC</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-417229</link>
		<dc:creator>PC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought the trade with the Christine Spar (&quot;Devil&#039;s Legacy&quot;), and would love to buy the rest of Grendel. The problem is that the Brian Li Sung trade is expensive for the number of pages, and I&#039;m not sure &quot;God and the Devil&quot; and subsequent stories are actually collected. That said, I&#039;ve read everything in scanned format. I loved it. And I&#039;d really love to buy it.

As for Mage, the second series is way better than the first, and I&#039;d love to own a trade of both, but when those came out, I wasn&#039;t interested in reading it, and now I am and the collections are nowhere to be found.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought the trade with the Christine Spar ("Devil's Legacy"), and would love to buy the rest of Grendel. The problem is that the Brian Li Sung trade is expensive for the number of pages, and I'm not sure "God and the Devil" and subsequent stories are actually collected. That said, I've read everything in scanned format. I loved it. And I'd really love to buy it.</p>
<p>As for Mage, the second series is way better than the first, and I'd love to own a trade of both, but when those came out, I wasn't interested in reading it, and now I am and the collections are nowhere to be found.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-417209</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buyer Beware on the Hero Defined HC the first run has a major printing error where several pages are repeated (replacing other pages). Image sent replacements out but the bad versions still exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buyer Beware on the Hero Defined HC the first run has a major printing error where several pages are repeated (replacing other pages). Image sent replacements out but the bad versions still exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-417205</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually ordered 20-22. Greg&#039;s review inspired me.

Dark Horse can only reprint what they have film or original art for. So Silverback looks unlikely as well.

As for Mage Image has two giant trades and hardcovers collecting Hero Discovered and Hero Defined in their entirety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually ordered 20-22. Greg's review inspired me.</p>
<p>Dark Horse can only reprint what they have film or original art for. So Silverback looks unlikely as well.</p>
<p>As for Mage Image has two giant trades and hardcovers collecting Hero Discovered and Hero Defined in their entirety.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Fitzpatrick</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-417054</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot believe that you&#039;ve never read Mage 1 and 2 (except for a few issues).

Holy Mary Mother of God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How can you read GRENDEL and not read MAGE?!?!?!?

They&#039;re practically not only mirror-counter parts, but what put Matt Wagner on the map as an established writer/artist.

Get the collected tpbs that collects the 1st and 2nd Interludes, the collected editions (first or second series) doesn&#039;t include the interludes.

Anyway, Dark Horse has been pretty good at collecting all of Comico run, except for Silverback (the origin of Argent) # 1-3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot believe that you've never read Mage 1 and 2 (except for a few issues).</p>
<p>Holy Mary Mother of God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>How can you read GRENDEL and not read MAGE?!?!?!?</p>
<p>They're practically not only mirror-counter parts, but what put Matt Wagner on the map as an established writer/artist.</p>
<p>Get the collected tpbs that collects the 1st and 2nd Interludes, the collected editions (first or second series) doesn't include the interludes.</p>
<p>Anyway, Dark Horse has been pretty good at collecting all of Comico run, except for Silverback (the origin of Argent) # 1-3.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fret not, Tom - more Grendel is coming!  I didn&#039;t mention the Mage back-ups because I have never read Mage (I&#039;ve read a few issues, but decided to try to get them through the trades and haven&#039;t gotten around to it), plus they&#039;re not really part of the &quot;Grendel&quot; story.  They do have that nice Wagner art, though.

It&#039;s nice to know that Dark Horse reprinted (or will reprint) the latter part of the Comico run.  I didn&#039;t see them on the Trade Paperback List I use or at Amazon, but it&#039;s good to know that they exist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fret not, Tom - more Grendel is coming!  I didn't mention the Mage back-ups because I have never read Mage (I've read a few issues, but decided to try to get them through the trades and haven't gotten around to it), plus they're not really part of the "Grendel" story.  They do have that nice Wagner art, though.</p>
<p>It's nice to know that Dark Horse reprinted (or will reprint) the latter part of the Comico run.  I didn't see them on the Trade Paperback List I use or at Amazon, but it's good to know that they exist!</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s 20, 21, and 22 that won&#039;t be reprinted.

I just found them at my local comic shop during a 40% off sale a month or two back; they had all of the latter half of the run, and much of the former, but I only got the ones for which there will be no trade.

I thought the stylized dialogue worked really well in a weird way.  It had a very similar effect, to me, to the &#039;Devil by the Deed&#039; story.  The dialogue was so minimal that it might as well be as non-existent as dialogue in &#039;Devil by the Deed&#039;, which makes the whole thing seem bigger because it gives you gaps to fill in from yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's 20, 21, and 22 that won't be reprinted.</p>
<p>I just found them at my local comic shop during a 40% off sale a month or two back; they had all of the latter half of the run, and much of the former, but I only got the ones for which there will be no trade.</p>
<p>I thought the stylized dialogue worked really well in a weird way.  It had a very similar effect, to me, to the 'Devil by the Deed' story.  The dialogue was so minimal that it might as well be as non-existent as dialogue in 'Devil by the Deed', which makes the whole thing seem bigger because it gives you gaps to fill in from yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Fitzpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Grant,

To fill in what you don&#039;t have:

Try e-bay.

or try this place:

http://www.dougcomicworld.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Grant,</p>
<p>To fill in what you don't have:</p>
<p>Try e-bay.</p>
<p>or try this place:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dougcomicworld.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dougcomicworld.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/12/26/comics-you-should-own-grendel-13-23/comment-page-1/#comment-416500</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crap got my numbering wrong. 23 is now God &amp; Devil # 0 and 21 and 22 probably won&#039;t be reprinted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap got my numbering wrong. 23 is now God &amp; Devil # 0 and 21 and 22 probably won't be reprinted.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devil Inside is pretty readily avalible. The need to put  Devil Tales back in print (featuring the Hunter Rose stories).  And issue 22 became God &amp; Devil 0 when the series was reprinted at Dark Horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devil Inside is pretty readily avalible. The need to put  Devil Tales back in print (featuring the Hunter Rose stories).  And issue 22 became God &amp; Devil 0 when the series was reprinted at Dark Horse.</p>
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