Comments on: Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed #136

By: Er… | let the wookie win

Er… | let the wookie win — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:24:12 +0000

[...] Over at Occasional Superheroine, Valerie D’Orazio raises a good point about Firestar – sounds like a question for Urban Legends… [...]

By: jc

jc — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 18:11:31 +0000

Well that certainly explains why Liefeld’s first Hawk and Dove run still looks better than ANYTHING he’s EVER done in his ENTIRE career.

I never had much of a problem with hands or feet myself, and I could show proof, but shamefully pimping my website is tacky.

By: TJCoolguy

TJCoolguy — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:07:22 +0000

Hands and feet are a general point of frustration for most artists. Myself and a fellow artist actually were just recently talking about it. I said that it made me feel good to know that, no matter how much natural talent or training someone has, EVERYBODY struggles with hands. At least at the beginning.

If any of you artists out there can say that you’ve never had that problem, you are definitely the exception, and very lucky.

By: Harry Manback

Harry Manback — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:32:45 +0000

The funniest thing about this entire post? Rob Liefield’s 1) inability to read this in the proper context, as it is CLEARLY not an attack on him, at all, and the third entry is just a case of you-said/i-said; and 2) posting a “reply” to this post on his, subscription-only, website. Man up, and come to the discussion if you’re really so “offended”, don’t whine from behind your paywall. Jesus, I am neutral on him as an artist, mainly because I’ve stayed away from his work, but I certainly am no fan of him as a person.

By: Sunnytime Review Show: Image United Edition « Legend of the Exciting, Mighty Uncanny, Raging Comics Blog

Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:23:05 +0000

[...] possible that all of this can be credited to Todd McFarlane coming back and making corrections, much like Karl Kesel did on Liefeld’s first work, but at least for the moment (and backed up by seeing hands and feet in Deadpool #900), I’m [...]

By: Thoughts on Final Crisis « Comicaze Reviews

Thoughts on Final Crisis « Comicaze Reviews — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:49:46 +0000

[...] add in whole new images on top of the previously drawn art. (Karl Kesel, for example, would assume foot-drawing chores from penciller Rob Liefeld.) If an editor can make a hack journalist’s prose sing, use that [...]

By: Mychael

Mychael — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:28:01 +0000

COMIC URBAN LEGEND: Superboy was designed to look like Rob Liefeld.

STATUS: False.

Thank Christ!!

By: Sissy Aquaman

Sissy Aquaman — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:02:56 +0000

Speaking of Liefeld, I have a question. The pencils in New Mutants #95 is credited to “Rob Liefeld and co.” What does this mean?

By: BDaly

BDaly — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:31:18 +0000

That link is hilarious. Laughed my ass off.

Can’t stand his work, and can’t stand his attitude.

By: DanCJ

DanCJ — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:01:24 +0000

Dare I say, by the way, that that Hawk and Dove cover by Liefeld looks surprisingly decent? What happened there, was he having a bad day?

It’s not just the cover. The interior art for the whole miniseries is good. Strange but true.

I’m not going to honestly claim to know how much of that quality is down to Karl Kesel, but certainly Hawk and Dove put him straight to the top of my list of artists to watch out for and I was horrified the first time I saw Leifeld’s Marvel work and found it to be downright ugly.

Superboy – Image
John Henry Irons/Steel – Valiant
the Eradicator – Marvel
the Cyborg (Hank Henshaw) – Dark Horse

I like your theory, but Steel seems a much better fit for Marvel than The Eradicator.

By: km

km — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:37:30 +0000

Man, that reply from Liefeld is hilarious!

I almost feel pity for him. Almost.

I can’t even get that far. He defends himself like he draws – like a spoiled twelve-year-old playing at being a grownup.

By: Reno

Reno — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 02:23:52 +0000

That last Cable pic (at least the face) is definitely by Brian Murray.

By: Jason Bowen

Jason Bowen — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:36:24 +0000

I’m enquiring about something i’ve seen mentioned latley amongst DC fans.

Morrison’s hyper crisis that never came to be… he gave a pretty good description of it in an old interview. He described the story as involving a menace that “ate a pivotal portion of the 20th century” causing the time line to go nuts. Superman would go on to try to build a bridge of events through time, etc. Hypertime would end up being explored and watched over by the “Challengers beyond the unknown”… amongst all this was a lot of other stuff that strangely syncs up with a lot of things currently going on in the DCU. Mr. Mind, the challengers showing up in Brave and the Bold, the new Challengers in Countdown, Super “man” Prime punching reality and travelling the multiverse seeking the perfect Earth…

…Morrison also mentioned the Guardians of the Universe becoming the Guardians of the Multiverse. This isn’t quite going on, but they are trying to guard the secret of the multiverse right now.

With Morrison writing Final Crisis, and so much of the DCU syncing up with old ideas, could this be Hypercrisis finally coming into form? Or is this just another example of comic book stories syncing up with old ideas, some kind of strange metatextual or jungian event over at DC, happening in a strangely Morrison-story fashion?

By: Dave Heckler

Dave Heckler — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 06:05:23 +0000

LOL I remember a very true story I heard at a Con from an established pro who told me that, when the 90s craze with “gimmick” covers was ongoing, he and a few bullpenners around the studio late at night took turns Farting on a cover Liefeld did; thereby making it a “Fart-Stamped” cover instead of a ‘foil-stamped’ one. The next day, they told Liefeld the copy of the comic they had smelled like flowers, and they were mystified, and he picked it up and smelled it, but then laughed and thought they were refering to his artwork, as in, it “smells like roses”- but as a good-natured slight against him. He never realized they’d been passing gas on that thing all night! I laugh every time i think of that one.

By: Apodaca

Apodaca — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:29:54 +0000

Man, that reply from Liefeld is hilarious!

I almost feel pity for him. Almost.

By: Alex

Alex — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:58:51 +0000

I love somebody got in a Joe Quesada/Mephisto bash here. I’ve always noticed that it’s the opposite regarding feet in Movies and in Comic books. Movies always have feet shown as an opening shot. Comic books always seemed to avoid showing them. I noticed that when I began studying the artwork. Sometimes, even great artists, will show feet as like a diamond shape or something.

By: SKFK

SKFK — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:40:08 +0000

“And as for all the â€œKarl Kesel made Rob so much betterâ€, how do they explain the radical career shifts we took after Hawk and Dove. I continued on a successful path, inked my own work, sold millions, revamped titles, shook the comic world to the core and heâ€¦â€¦..inked and wrote comics. Wow I really suffered rightâ€¦..”

Just when I think “Liefeld may have matured somewhat over the years, maybe I shouldn’t bash him so much for what he was like a decade and a half ago,” he proves me wrong.

By: Adrian

Adrian — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:31:45 +0000

Well from what I recall the Valiant universe was originally a more hard sci-fi oriented universe, and one of its most prominent heroes was another armored guy, X-O Manowar. The Cyborg as Dark Horse is more puzzling to me. Is it because of Terminator?

By: comixkid2099

comixkid2099 — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:04:34 +0000

“Superboy – Image
John Henry Irons/Steel – Valiant
the Eradicator – Marvel
the Cyborg (Hank Henshaw) – Dark Horse”

how is John Henry Irons a parody of Valiant?

By: Wilbur Lunch

Wilbur Lunch — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:05:49 +0000

Liefeld-bashing is so 1998. Let it go, people. Move on.