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	<title>Comments on: Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed #137</title>
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		<title>By: ParanoidObsessive</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/01/10/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-137/comment-page-2/#comment-692892</link>
		<dc:creator>ParanoidObsessive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt; I am always hoping maybe someone at Marvel might hand Ellis a folder with all those old Malibu characters sitting around in limbo. He is bound to find a workable idea or three in thoseâ€¦

&gt;&gt;&gt; There are a lot of workable ideas to be found in the Ultraverse characters, but as I understand it (I believe it got covered during a â€œCup aâ€™ Joeâ€ at a convention last year), the rights are really tangled up, so itâ€™ll be a long time before we see those characters again - if ever.

It&#039;s worth noting that the Ultraverse characters aren&#039;t the only Malibu characters Marvel might have access to - in theory, they should have also gained the rights to the Malibu versions of the public domain Centaur Publications characters (the Genesis line), along with any new characters created for that particular line.  Not that they&#039;d necessarily WANT to use those characters...



&gt;&gt;&gt; I liked that title Mantra, although until very recently I had totally confused her with Ultra-girl or whatever from the New-Warriors.

I quite enjoyed Mantra when the book was basically a study in a male warrior forced to live in the body of a female sorceress, along with the added complication of child custody issues.  After Marvel obtained the property, they just sort of turned it into a more traditional - and less interesting - book.



&gt;&gt;&gt; I wonder if anyone knows where I could get a full fun of Mantra? Couldnâ€™t cost me much, could it?

From what I&#039;ve seen, most price guides suggest they&#039;re only worth slightly more than cover price now ($2.50).

As for where one could get a full run... no idea.  I&#039;ve only got #1-9 myself, as post-Break-Thru is more or less when I started to lose interest in the Ultraverse.



&gt;&gt;&gt; The reason it doesnâ€™t work is that the word for â€œfoot loverâ€ is PODOphile. The admiration of feet is called â€œpodolatryâ€ and people who treat feet are called â€œpodologistsâ€.

&quot;Ped&quot; is used for &quot;foot&quot; as well, though, as can be seen in words like pedometer, pedestrian, and pedestal.

For that matter, the word &quot;pedology&quot; means either the study of child behavior or the study of soil, depending on the context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; I am always hoping maybe someone at Marvel might hand Ellis a folder with all those old Malibu characters sitting around in limbo. He is bound to find a workable idea or three in thoseâ€¦</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; There are a lot of workable ideas to be found in the Ultraverse characters, but as I understand it (I believe it got covered during a â€œCup aâ€™ Joeâ€ at a convention last year), the rights are really tangled up, so itâ€™ll be a long time before we see those characters again - if ever.</p>
<p>It's worth noting that the Ultraverse characters aren't the only Malibu characters Marvel might have access to - in theory, they should have also gained the rights to the Malibu versions of the public domain Centaur Publications characters (the Genesis line), along with any new characters created for that particular line.  Not that they'd necessarily WANT to use those characters...</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; I liked that title Mantra, although until very recently I had totally confused her with Ultra-girl or whatever from the New-Warriors.</p>
<p>I quite enjoyed Mantra when the book was basically a study in a male warrior forced to live in the body of a female sorceress, along with the added complication of child custody issues.  After Marvel obtained the property, they just sort of turned it into a more traditional - and less interesting - book.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; I wonder if anyone knows where I could get a full fun of Mantra? Couldnâ€™t cost me much, could it?</p>
<p>From what I've seen, most price guides suggest they're only worth slightly more than cover price now ($2.50).</p>
<p>As for where one could get a full run... no idea.  I've only got #1-9 myself, as post-Break-Thru is more or less when I started to lose interest in the Ultraverse.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; The reason it doesnâ€™t work is that the word for â€œfoot loverâ€ is PODOphile. The admiration of feet is called â€œpodolatryâ€ and people who treat feet are called â€œpodologistsâ€.</p>
<p>"Ped" is used for "foot" as well, though, as can be seen in words like pedometer, pedestrian, and pedestal.</p>
<p>For that matter, the word "pedology" means either the study of child behavior or the study of soil, depending on the context.</p>
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		<title>By: yo go re</title>
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		<dc:creator>yo go re</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is WAY late (I&#039;m trying to find a specific old Legend that isn&#039;t linked from the &quot;arranged by theme&quot; page), but looking back at the &#039;Ringo legend after the fact and thinking about the dates, I wonder if perhaps the Punisher storyline they offered him was the one with Kraven the Hunter and all the animal-themed villains. I can see both why Marvel would think that would suit his style, and why he&#039;d be uncomfortable doing it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is WAY late (I'm trying to find a specific old Legend that isn't linked from the "arranged by theme" page), but looking back at the 'Ringo legend after the fact and thinking about the dates, I wonder if perhaps the Punisher storyline they offered him was the one with Kraven the Hunter and all the animal-themed villains. I can see both why Marvel would think that would suit his style, and why he'd be uncomfortable doing it...</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information, Cully. I&#039;ll add it in!</description>
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		<title>By: Cully Hamner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cully Hamner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just clarify something from that CBR piece:

I don&#039;t believe I ever said that Mike was &quot;working on&quot; PUNISHER when he died, as I knew he was doing a WHAT IF?  In fact, he sent me some of those pages while we were on the phone for the last time.  In that same conversation, he also told me that he had been *offered* a PUNISHER arc, but wasn&#039;t sure how he felt about it.  We also talked about maybe getting my studiomate Karl story to ink it, as he had some time in his schedule coming up.

I did say, though, that I thought he would have found a way to pull it off, mainly because Mike was an endlessly creative and resourceful guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just clarify something from that CBR piece:</p>
<p>I don't believe I ever said that Mike was "working on" PUNISHER when he died, as I knew he was doing a WHAT IF?  In fact, he sent me some of those pages while we were on the phone for the last time.  In that same conversation, he also told me that he had been *offered* a PUNISHER arc, but wasn't sure how he felt about it.  We also talked about maybe getting my studiomate Karl story to ink it, as he had some time in his schedule coming up.</p>
<p>I did say, though, that I thought he would have found a way to pull it off, mainly because Mike was an endlessly creative and resourceful guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan Shuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethan Shuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about this character Baytor, but there is a recent character in Star Wars comics; a Jedi Master named Soon Bayts. In other words, &quot;Master Bayts&quot;. And he&#039;s actually had more than one appearance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know about this character Baytor, but there is a recent character in Star Wars comics; a Jedi Master named Soon Bayts. In other words, "Master Bayts". And he's actually had more than one appearance.</p>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish we had a constitution in Britain sometimes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish we had a constitution in Britain sometimes</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/01/10/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-137/comment-page-2/#comment-471743</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It WAS illegal up until a couple of years ago.

The Supreme Court ruled said laws unconstitutional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It WAS illegal up until a couple of years ago.</p>
<p>The Supreme Court ruled said laws unconstitutional.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminded of this from reading today&#039;s Pipeline at CBR:

&quot;SPIDER-GIRL was cancelled and brought back after a fan letter from a little girl.&quot;

After a quick search of the archives, I could not find coverage of this. Didn&#039;t I hear that it wasn&#039;t a little girl, but rather an adult male that happened to be a fan of Spider-Girl?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminded of this from reading today's Pipeline at CBR:</p>
<p>"SPIDER-GIRL was cancelled and brought back after a fan letter from a little girl."</p>
<p>After a quick search of the archives, I could not find coverage of this. Didn't I hear that it wasn't a little girl, but rather an adult male that happened to be a fan of Spider-Girl?</p>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I didnâ€™t run it before, but yo go re did bring it up before on the comments to a different piece, so thatâ€™s probably what youâ€™re remembering.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ah - That must be it.

And is sodomy really illegal in some states of America?  What century are those states living in???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I didnâ€™t run it before, but yo go re did bring it up before on the comments to a different piece, so thatâ€™s probably what youâ€™re remembering.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah - That must be it.</p>
<p>And is sodomy really illegal in some states of America?  What century are those states living in???</p>
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		<title>By: Scavenger</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/01/10/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-137/comment-page-2/#comment-464288</link>
		<dc:creator>Scavenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach Adams: a Yat is a semi-derogatory/semi-self embraced term for native New Orleaneans, who have a somewhat brooklyn sounding accent.  It comes from the phrase &quot;Hey dahlin&#039;, where y&#039;at?&quot; (Hey, darling, where are you at?---basicly, hello friend, how are you doing?).

Perhaps Alan Moore has a thing against New Orleaneans...or really like&#039;s his Bourbon Street visits.

For more on Yats, visit your local library.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yat_(New_Orleans)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach Adams: a Yat is a semi-derogatory/semi-self embraced term for native New Orleaneans, who have a somewhat brooklyn sounding accent.  It comes from the phrase "Hey dahlin', where y'at?" (Hey, darling, where are you at?---basicly, hello friend, how are you doing?).</p>
<p>Perhaps Alan Moore has a thing against New Orleaneans...or really like's his Bourbon Street visits.</p>
<p>For more on Yats, visit your local library.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yat_(New_Orleans)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yat_(New_Orleans)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Monday Links &#171; Graphic Fiction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monday Links &#171; Graphic Fiction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A pedophile joke in an old The Brave and the Bold? Sure enough. Another Urban Myth revealed at CBR. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A pedophile joke in an old The Brave and the Bold? Sure enough. Another Urban Myth revealed at CBR. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Claudio Pozas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claudio Pozas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Pedo joke...

The reason it doesn&#039;t work is that the word for &quot;foot lover&quot; is PODOphile. The admiration of feet is called &quot;podolatry&quot; and people who treat feet are called &quot;podologists&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Pedo joke...</p>
<p>The reason it doesn't work is that the word for "foot lover" is PODOphile. The admiration of feet is called "podolatry" and people who treat feet are called "podologists".</p>
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		<title>By: jrnewto</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrnewto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sodam Yat was an in-joke by Alan Moore meant to imply that all Daxamites were Sodomitesâ€¦ the Super guy who had the Power Ring.  And I heard the reason Marvel bought Malibu was for their digital colouring business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sodam Yat was an in-joke by Alan Moore meant to imply that all Daxamites were Sodomitesâ€¦ the Super guy who had the Power Ring.  And I heard the reason Marvel bought Malibu was for their digital colouring business.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Gardiner</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/01/10/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-137/comment-page-2/#comment-462003</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Gardiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Pedo Phile... just checked my copy of The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told and, right enough, the box in Gordon&#039;s hand is blank.

However! On the next page, the box partially appears again, and the &#039;Pedo&#039; part of the name remains clearly visible. So DC did remove the name. But made quite a mess of it..!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Pedo Phile... just checked my copy of The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told and, right enough, the box in Gordon's hand is blank.</p>
<p>However! On the next page, the box partially appears again, and the 'Pedo' part of the name remains clearly visible. So DC did remove the name. But made quite a mess of it..!</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: the Sodam Yat ongoing discussion

Just looking at it and hearing someone say it was a hidden naughtiness, my first thought was &quot;So damn yat?  What&#039;s yat?&quot;

On a similar note, for Brian:  I seem to recall Ennis saying somewhere that Baytor (of Demon and Hitman fame) was so named because the last line of Ennis&#039; last Demon issue was to be &quot;All hail our new Master, Baytor!&quot; until the editor nixed it.  True?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the Sodam Yat ongoing discussion</p>
<p>Just looking at it and hearing someone say it was a hidden naughtiness, my first thought was "So damn yat?  What's yat?"</p>
<p>On a similar note, for Brian:  I seem to recall Ennis saying somewhere that Baytor (of Demon and Hitman fame) was so named because the last line of Ennis' last Demon issue was to be "All hail our new Master, Baytor!" until the editor nixed it.  True?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Clem</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/01/10/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-137/comment-page-2/#comment-461681</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Clem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to Steve Englehart&#039;s website and look up Strangers under his comics resume.  He actually wrote a new Ultraverse/Strangers comic script for Marvel but so far it goes un-published. Too bad - it&#039;s pretty good. 
Alan Brennert wrote a handful of great comics:
(in no particular order)
Daredevil #192, 195 (special thanks)
Brave and Bold #s 178, 181, 182, 197
Wonder Woman #s 231 and 232 (story)
Star Trek (Marvel) #12 (plot)
Detective Comics #500 (lead Batman story)
Christmas with the Super-Heroes Special #2 (Deadman and a special pre-Crisis super casualty)
Detective Comics #600 (Batman text tribute)
Secret Origins #50 (Black Canary)
Batman: Holy Terror
Batman Gotham Knights #10 (b&amp;w back-up)

He also has 3 or 4 novels, a couple of short story collections and he worked on such tv shows as LA Law, China Beach, CBS&#039; 1985 Twilight Zone and the recent revival of Outer Limits.  The guy is good; really good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to Steve Englehart's website and look up Strangers under his comics resume.  He actually wrote a new Ultraverse/Strangers comic script for Marvel but so far it goes un-published. Too bad - it's pretty good.<br />
Alan Brennert wrote a handful of great comics:<br />
(in no particular order)<br />
Daredevil #192, 195 (special thanks)<br />
Brave and Bold #s 178, 181, 182, 197<br />
Wonder Woman #s 231 and 232 (story)<br />
Star Trek (Marvel) #12 (plot)<br />
Detective Comics #500 (lead Batman story)<br />
Christmas with the Super-Heroes Special #2 (Deadman and a special pre-Crisis super casualty)<br />
Detective Comics #600 (Batman text tribute)<br />
Secret Origins #50 (Black Canary)<br />
Batman: Holy Terror<br />
Batman Gotham Knights #10 (b&amp;w back-up)</p>
<p>He also has 3 or 4 novels, a couple of short story collections and he worked on such tv shows as LA Law, China Beach, CBS' 1985 Twilight Zone and the recent revival of Outer Limits.  The guy is good; really good.</p>
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		<title>By: StevenR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan Brennert did a few comic fanzines in the mid1970s, before becoming a TV writer, where he&#039;s spent most of his professional career.  check the IMDB for the specifics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Brennert did a few comic fanzines in the mid1970s, before becoming a TV writer, where he's spent most of his professional career.  check the IMDB for the specifics</p>
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		<title>By: Sijo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sijo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the Ultraverse characters, I&#039;ve heard that discussed several times, and what I understand happened is this:

When creating the Ultravese titles, Malibu made a deal with various creators where it would retain copyright of all the characters in exchange for paying royalties to them whenever they were used. A very small amount, I hear.

Marvel did buy Malibu for both its printing system and the characters, who were surprisingly popular back then. When they did, they also bought the royalties arrangement. It didn&#039;t stop them from publishing Ultraverse comics for a while. However they changed them so much, their appeal was lost and sales plummeted (that and the market in general was falling in the late 90&#039;s.) So no, it isn&#039;t a matter of entangled rights; Marvel just doesn&#039;t want to have to pay royalties to the original creators anymore, not even very small ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the Ultraverse characters, I've heard that discussed several times, and what I understand happened is this:</p>
<p>When creating the Ultravese titles, Malibu made a deal with various creators where it would retain copyright of all the characters in exchange for paying royalties to them whenever they were used. A very small amount, I hear.</p>
<p>Marvel did buy Malibu for both its printing system and the characters, who were surprisingly popular back then. When they did, they also bought the royalties arrangement. It didn't stop them from publishing Ultraverse comics for a while. However they changed them so much, their appeal was lost and sales plummeted (that and the market in general was falling in the late 90's.) So no, it isn't a matter of entangled rights; Marvel just doesn't want to have to pay royalties to the original creators anymore, not even very small ones.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, Super Chief had, like, two appearances in 1962.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, Super Chief had, like, two appearances in 1962.  <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fnord Serious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fnord Serious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the &quot;Character that never appeared before&quot; in 52 might have been Super Chief from about halfway through the run. Wasn&#039;t he from an old DC cartoon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the "Character that never appeared before" in 52 might have been Super Chief from about halfway through the run. Wasn't he from an old DC cartoon?</p>
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