Comments on: Top Five Additions to Batman's Rogues Gallery of the Past 25 Years

By: Steve

Steve — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:39:56 +0000

Zsasz does sound like a cool villain and they could definatly do him, along side somebody else of course but it seemed to easy for batman to take him down back in the first movie, and yes it has been confirmed that they are doing a third batman just go to fandango.com and find the comic relief part and warner brothers says they will mak the third. They can't bring back Scarecrow, cause Batman took his mask. Its unforntunate that they're probably not going to do harley cause of heath.Killer CRoc and Bane seem far fetched but the Vintrilliquist seems reasonable.Nolan claims that he won't do either the Penguin or Catwoman.I personally would like to see Ras Al Gul to come back and maybe a realistic physical challenge for Batman that is a new villain.

By: wwk5d

wwk5d — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:18:41 +0000

Prometheus was lame. I hated how in first appearence, the JLA acted like morons when he first appeared. He seemed to take each of them down this way:

Prometheus: Hi, my name is Prometheus. I'm here to kick your ass.

Whatever JLA Member Was In That Scene: Stop!

P: Talk talk talk talk talk.

WJMWITS: I mean it! Stop where you are!

P: Talk talk talk talk talk.

WJMWITS: I REALLY MEAN IT THIS TIME! STOP!

P: Talk talk talk talk talk.

Prometheus takes down here. *yawn*.

Ok, maybe it didn't happen exactly that way, but I just felt like the heroes were lazily and stupidly standing around while he danced circles around. Even Batman, rather than sneaking up on him, chose to strike a *kewl* pose first, and gave P enough time to explain HOW he was going to kick Batman's ass. All I kept thinking during those isssues was "These morons deserve to have their asses handed to them". It soured me on the character overall...he deserved to be stuck with Hutch

By: Carl

Carl — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:03:22 +0000

Bane suffers from what I call "Utlimate Villain Syndrome". Essentially, the villain goes as far as he can in his first major storyline. After breaking Batman's back, the only thing left for him to do is actually kill Batman. Since that's not going to ever happen, any subsequent appearances pale in comparison to the first. The same holds true for Doomsday. If Superman can't be killed and stay dead, any other appearance means Superman wins.

By: Comics Should Be Good! » The concept of Rogues’ Galleries

Comics Should Be Good! » The concept of Rogues’ Galleries — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:04:07 +0000

[...] Our Dread Lord and Master’s post about Batman’s “Rogues’ Gallery,” plus a comment in this post about Bastion and his place in the X-Men’s “Rogues’ Gallery” got me thinking about the concept, as you might have expected it would.Â Woe betide anyone once I get to thinking! [...]

By: JClark

JClark — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:16:22 +0000

Has Harley been in any good stories in the mainstream, DCU continuity? I think, no matter how popular she is in other media, that one seminal story centered around the character would be a prerequisite to making the list.

By: Tekende

Tekende — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:40:07 +0000

What about Zeiss from Brubaker's Batman run a few years back? I thought he was really cool.

Mind you, I haven't read anything else with him since that run, so maybe they completely ruined him later.

By: DanCJ

DanCJ — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:00:07 +0000

KGBeast is one of the worst Batman villains ever. Even worse than Bane who shouldn't be on this list either.

The moment I saw the list title I was ready to spit bile if either Zsasz or Scarface/The Ventriloquist was left out, but as they're both there I'm happy.

It would be nice if Jane Doe was on the list, but I guess she hasn't been used enough.

By: Hondo

Hondo — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:29:46 +0000

Top 5 Best New Batman Villains of the Last 25 Years :

# 5 - KGBeast, Batman # 417, 1988

# 4 - Harley Quinn, Batman : Harley Quinn, 1999

# 3 - Killer Croc, Detective # 523, 1983

# 2 - Prometheus, New Year's Evil: Prometheus # 1, 1997

# 1 - The Wraith, Batman Special # 1, 1984

By: yo go re

yo go re — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:31:27 +0000

I'd think Anarky would be ineligible just for being an attempt to turn V into a superhero character, ragardless of his status as a villain or not...

By: Jbird

Jbird — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:43:21 +0000

So what's some unmissable stuff for Killer Croc? Serious question: what should I pick up to see him as #1 in the newer gallery?

By: T.

T. — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:13:16 +0000

I think that was it Brian, it was in the Robin III miniseries, which I think was the Beast's first appearance after his original debut and the beginning of his moron persona. I remember because there was a lot of fan bitching about it at the time. I think he only became a regular henchman and lackey after that miniseries, and often in Chuck Dixon stories, who was the same guy that misused him in the first place.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:24:52 +0000

Whereâ€™s Hush?!

-M

Limbo, where he rightfully belongs.

By: Matt

Matt — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:13:08 +0000

Where's Hush?!

-M

By: buttler

buttler — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:11:34 +0000

Maxie Zeus is Denny O'Neil all the way, Bill.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:48:42 +0000

Was that it, T?

I thought KGBeast was just made to be a total lackey to all sorts of people (wasn't he also a sidekick to Lockup?).

KGBeast DID get to kick Bane's ass at one point!

By: T.

T. — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:40:13 +0000

KGBeast - not much served there, either.

Prometheus served to make Hush look better, but seeing as how Hush was so amazingly lame, it was a wasted effort.

KGBeast was similar to Prometheus, in that he was made worse to make a newer character better, but the newer character was so amazingly lame that it was a wasted effort. In the case of KGBeast, that new character was King Snake, a dorky white Brit with a Shadoe Stevens 90 mullet that Chuck Dixon should have realized no one but him would EVER want to use, except maybe as cannon fodder. To think that KGBeast's credibility was sacrificed in an effort to make King Snake catch on still stings.

By: Bill Reed

Bill Reed — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:30:56 +0000

I probably would've had Scarface at 1 and Zsasz at 2, with no Bane in sight.

I love me some Grant/Breyfogle baddies. Maxie Zeus, anyone?

By: Salamurai

Salamurai — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:12:08 +0000

Ventriloquist and Clayface suddenly became my favorite Batman villains, solely because of the 90's animated series. (Given that I didn't read much Batman as a child or teen, a lot of my "real" introduction to the Bat was from that show.) I hadn't heard that the original was now dead, but I haven't been following DC closely since Infinite Crisis.

By: John Trumbull

John Trumbull — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:10:41 +0000

Mr. Zsasz??? Really?!? I don't see that at all. But then, all of the Grant-Breyfogle villains seem lame to me, with the notable exception of the Ventriloquist (Ratcatcher? Anarky?).

Black Mask definitely should have been on the list, as he's made a much bigger impact on the Bat books than Mr. Zsasz.

Killer Croc deserves a spot on there, but not #1. He's been made too much of a joke over the years.

And Harley was ROBBED of #1. She's teh perfect Yin to the Joker's Yang. The fact that she was introduced on a spinoff cartoon show (which are traditionally the home of lame original villains) makes her all the more exceptional.

Oh, and the Wrath was a Mike W. Barr character, not a Doug Moench one.

By: R

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:47:58 +0000

Yeah, much as I love Anarky, he's more of an anti-hero than an out-and-out villain, so good call on leaving him out.

Kroc WAS awesome back in the day, but I have to agree he's a lamer Lizard these days. Guess writers don't like to do their research anymore..

I always liked Lock-up, but hey.

-R