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Adam Warren Week: A Dirty Pair of Lovely Angels | Tech Monkey Comics — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:02:27 +0000

[...] Dirty Pair existed, but never managed to pick any up until earlier this year. Ken Kneisel, murderer of Flex Mentallo, savior of Emma Frost, and pretty much the nicest guy I know, hooked me up with just about the [...]

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By: Requin

Requin — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:08:03 +0000

I remember as a kid, seeing that guy on a French-Canadian TV show. They badly translated his name into l'Homme Volant (The Flying Man)

By: The REAL Ken Kneisel

The REAL Ken Kneisel — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 08:01:59 +0000

Graeme Burk said: "Could we have a moratorium on Kneisel items from now on please?" But we haven't even covered bigoted anti-mutant cop and hated X-Men foe Commander Kneisel! (1st app: X-Treme X-Men #31) Brian: Thanks for bringing all this up. When I commented on CBULR #140 I mentioned that I hadn't intended on making Flex all but impossible to find except for obscene prices on eBay. That made me curious what the miniseries was going for on eBay and I wound up scoring a full set of all 4 issues for just $70 after shipping, which is a comparative bargain considering I typically see individual issues selling for at least $20 each. So now, thanks in part to this column, I finally own a complete set of Flex Mentallo again after having gone many long years without them. It's kind of a trip to think that it's now been 10 years since I originally unintentionally narced on Flex. And now that I finally have the comics again and have long since been forgiven by Grant, it really feels like I've come full circle. Also thanks to this column, I made a new friend at The Isotope Comic Book Lounge. (Hi, Chris!) Oh yeah and I'm afraid that "Ken Kneisel" who posted upthread is the impostor again. I honestly don't understand what the appeal of impersonating me online could possibly be, but please accept no substitutes for The REAL Ken Kneisel.

By: Ken Raining

Ken Raining — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:40:49 +0000

I'd also like to add (though I don't know if it means anything as far as this discussion goes) that Marvel created their Captain Marvel after DC acquired the publishing rights to the GA CM so that theri main competitor couldn't put a book on the market with "Marvel" in the title. I've also heard (Hell, it may have been here) that Marvel would bring the title back every few years in one form or another so that DC never had a chance to claim that the trademark had lapsed.

By: Graeme White

Graeme White — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:10:25 +0000

Oh, yeah, She Thing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Ventura

By: Graeme White

Graeme White — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:03:42 +0000

Miss America

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_America_%28Marvel_Comics%29

Thor Girl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_Girl

Valkyrie (earlier She-Thor)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie_%28Marvel_Comics%29

By: David

David — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:39:01 +0000

Always thought it was a bit sad that Marvel had to go to the 'indignity' (sort of) of creating female versions of their top two chacters to protect them from other companies doing the same. I would have just sued their ass. I was also a bit suspect of this reason, and thought maybe Marvel thought having their own 'Batgirl' and 'Supergirl' would be a money-spinner. If copyright protection was the sole reason then where was She-Thing, Iron Woman, She-Thor, Lady Strange and Ms America? Love this site - keep up the good work.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:36:45 +0000

>had passed and DC had to deal with being purchased by >WB in 1971.
speaking of urban legends....
-- Warner Brothers never bought DC - the company that DC was a big part of (Kinney National Service) bought Warner Brothers and then they, Kenny National, changed their name to Warner Communication; as that was the fancier name.

By: Graeme White

Graeme White — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:36:53 +0000

On the Wonder Woman thing, whereas it is true that DC didn't actually own the Wonder Woman character, they did pay for the licensing rights to the character, not just publishing rights, also if they weren't seen to be defending the copyright on their characters, both licensed and unlicensed, than tey ran the risk of losing their copyrights under copyright law, and the characters would then fall into public domain or the rights would revert back to the owners.

By: Ed

Ed — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:20:18 +0000

While the question of possible litigation between DC and Marvel for "Wonder Man" may well be left to the urban legends of fandom, here's something to keep in mind. In the same rough time period as the revival of Wonder Man and arrival of Power Girl - Marvel Spotlight featuring "Spider-Woman". and "The Savage She-Hulk". Fans at the time were going "WTF?" (Well, not really, more like "WTH?"). Both seemed like cheesy rip-offs of Marvel's own characters. IIRC, one or both of the intro books included an editorial message that the characters were created so that no one else could create a female "spider" character or a female "Hulk".

By: Rob M

Rob M — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:26:09 +0000

Filipe said â€¦ I never truly got why does Brother Voodoo dresses like a chicken.

Assuming you're looking at the Avengers #152 cover with Wonder Man, that's not Brother Voodoo, it's Black Talon, a voodoo-based villain. I think he first appeared in Brother Voodoo's short run in Strange Tales, circa 1973.

By: John Seavey

John Seavey — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:58:44 +0000

I was going to say something, here, but, um...Tom Brevoort said it all already.

By: Apodaca

Apodaca — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:39:28 +0000

Jeez, only the second time people have made Ken Kneisel jokes, and there are already complainers.

By: Frank Rook

Frank Rook — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:42:32 +0000

Unless Back Issue #20 has a full interview with Rick Rogaine about being the Human Fly, I'll pass.

Funny about Cyndi Lauper, I wouldn't be surprised if she also showed up at Marvel offices in the early 90s when they were publishing wrestling comics, asking if they'd do a Cap'n Lou book.

By: mrjayberry

mrjayberry — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:34:36 +0000

Unlike Sublime, Brother Voodoo does practice Sateria.

By: Felipe

Felipe — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:12:42 +0000

... I never truly got why does Brother Voodoo dresses like a chicken.

Can anyone explain?

Are poultry inherently linked to necromancy and the dark arts?

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:04:55 +0000

Back Issue IS an awesome book!

By: Dave Ziegler

Dave Ziegler — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:01:56 +0000

Back Issue #20, an excellent magazine from TwoMorrows Publishing, has a pretty extensive article on The Human Fly series, in case you're curious. Seriously, that mag is almost the best $6.95 I spend every other month...

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:01:16 +0000

Yeah, again, as I tried to stress, it doesn't really matter whether it is true or not (if I thought I could prove it either way, I'd feature it in the column ), just what Marvel THOUGHT was the story at the time, and as Tom Brevoort (and others) have mentioned, it is a reasonable enough story to believe that, say, Jim Shooter felt it was true (whether it was, in fact, true).