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Trinity Sounds Like a Well-Planned Concept
- by Brian Cronin
- in General
I gotta say, the more I hear about Trinity, the more I think DC is going to have itself quite a popular book on its hands.
Whether folks like Mark Bagley's art much or not, at the very least, the man is a capable comic book artist who is not going to hurt the comic, and the consistency of having every issue drawn by Bagley will help immensely, I feel, in the coherence of the comic book. Plus the idea of a year-long story starring Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman as they travel through the DC Universe, with backups featuring the characters they interact with (that also tie into the main story)?
That's just a great sales concept.
Unlike 52, which took some time to get rolling, this book already has a great hook of the bat - it's Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman in a book together set in the entire DC Universe!!! It will allow Busiek to introduce new characters, and it will allow him (and back-up story co-writer Fabian Nicieza, which is another nice consistency bonus) to explore various other DC heroes as well.
Trinity could be really good, as Busiek has produced some excellent comic books. It could also be pretty ordinary, but at the very worst, it is a well-planned concept that I think will be a significant sales success for DC in 2008.
By the by, quick aside/Countdown mocking, check out this great Busiek quote:
Each time DC does a weekly, they want to do it differently. '52' was about a world without the heroes, 'Countdown to Final Crisis' is building up to an event about the heroes and 'Trinity' is about the heroes. Front and center.
Hmmm...so wait, the one that doesn't really have a concept beyond "leading up to a crossover" turned out to be the BAD one? Shocking!!
- Posted on February 25, 2008 @ 10:09 AM






20 Comments
Greg Burgas
February 25, 2008 at 10:15 am
Yeah, that does sound like a good idea. Of course, a weekly year-long series probably means we'll get less Astro City, which is not a good thing, no matter how good Trinity turns out to be.
Grant
February 25, 2008 at 10:56 am
He has dropped Superman and Aquaman to do this though. And he's writing 48 pages by himself. So I think he can still get Astro City out.
Michael
February 25, 2008 at 11:07 am
Leapfrogging, the one that's about people as opposed to the universe/continuity is the one I can actually bring myself to give a shit about? Shocking!
Matt D
February 25, 2008 at 11:08 am
My big question (and yes, I realize it's fannish and inclusive and surely, the thing that's destroying the industry) is the weight the story is going to have. It doesn't tie in to everything. Busiek says he's going to be reviving heroes and villains and properties and creatign new ones, but when you look at what he's created and revived in DC, none of that stuff ever gets used again, really, whether it's the Power Company or a lot of the villains in his Superman run (which I can't see anyone using anytime soon) or what.
If the book is just dangling out there as an iconic Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman tale, great, but if it doesn't have some weight behind it in seeding things for the future or changing the status quo, or whatever, I'm not sure the fanbase will get behind it as much as they might otherwise.
Axel M. Gruner
February 25, 2008 at 11:17 am
That probably takes time. Maybe in ageneration, there'll be a big Busiek-Revival Event, as Countdown turned out to be a Kirby-Revival...
Alan
February 25, 2008 at 11:29 am
Hmm... the great thing about 52 (and to a much lesser extent, Countdown) was that it focussed on the lesser characters. I'm not sure I want to read a weekly book about people who already have, like, 9 monthly books between them...
Vic
February 25, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Isn't the concept just adding Wonder Woman to Superman/Batman?
The Mutt
February 25, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Does this mean that for a whole year the continuity in Action, Superman, Detective, Batman, Wonder Woman, JLA and Superman/Batman will be slaved to the events in Trinity?
Just how many titles will I be expected to buy to keep up with the story?
Doug Atkinson
February 25, 2008 at 12:58 pm
"Does this mean that for a whole year the continuity in Action, Superman, Detective, Batman, Wonder Woman, JLA and Superman/Batman will be slaved to the events in Trinity?"
The interview linked to at the top says they won't.
KaFaraqGatri
February 25, 2008 at 1:02 pm
You will have to by only 1 (one) title (4-5 times a month) in order to keep up with the story.
Any "crossovers" will be done a la Brave and the Bold and will happen in the backup sections written by Busiek and Nicieza.
Jeff Ryan
February 25, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Salient point about Busiek characters he's writing (the Power Company troupe, Arion, friggin' the BLUEJAY) not getting much of a revival.
But I like that sort of stuff. Not every character has to become so popular he or she starts showing up all over the place all the time. Sometimes a character's scarcity of apeparances show how durable they are -- that no one else wants to write a watered-down follow-up story with them that pales by comparision.
I mean, with every Doomsday appearance he descends from Monster That Killed Superman to Superman's Killer Croc. Wouldn't the Joker be scarier if he only showed up once every three years or so?
Can't villains be more like Ultron: so challenging they spend years in the wings?
John Trumbull
February 25, 2008 at 5:14 pm
#5 - Since when does killing off Kirby's most prominent characters for the company count as a "Revival?"
John Seavey
February 25, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Heck, I was sold when I heard "Busiek/Bagley". I don't need it to have 'weight'; I could do with a little less weight, a little less, "Oh, but how does it advance the metaplot?" in my stories. Metaplots and big arcs and changing the status quo are all so 90s.
JC
February 25, 2008 at 7:15 pm
I don't know if I agree with the scarcity argument: Mr Szaz barely appears and he still not as terrifying as the Joker.
That being said, I am on board with this. Busiek does world building well and I'd like to see a more Astro City mentality to the DCU.
Apodaca
February 25, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Are you kidding? The Joker's not scary at all.
DCD
February 25, 2008 at 9:45 pm
I miss Astro City. I'm between comic shops now so I'm having to take AC when I can get it...last guy basically said it comes out so infrequently now he only ever orders enough for subscribers, of which he has like 4. And that is a damn shame for a lot of reasons.
I understand it takes longer to produce AC for KB & Co. but it's still a shame.
Michael
February 25, 2008 at 9:58 pm
I would miss Astro City, if the Beautie special hadn't just come out two weeks ago.
Tyson
February 25, 2008 at 10:09 pm
As usual, Mr. Seavey hits it on the head. The only bad thing about this is that I'm going to be buying a current title set in one of the Big Two's universes again. I really like Busiek, and man, I loves me some Bagley art.
red-Ricky
February 26, 2008 at 12:52 am
Yep. But now you get 3, not 2, but 3 internal monologues!!! Isn't it wonderful?
To be honest, a lot of titles are going seem redundant. I mean, Trinity appears to be good (on paper) but I don't see how the dynamics are going to be that much different from what we have seen in Justice League and Batman/Superman.
You know, I would've loved to see Billy Batson added to the mix (even if that meant paying royalties to Mark Waid & Alex Ross for their original Kingdom idea).
Seriously, the dynamics of Wonder Woman, Superman and Batman teaching a young Billy Batson (ala Books of Magic); and then having him go off in different adventures with his mentors seems that much more exciting and new! Realistically speaking, he is the future of the DC Universe (that is, if anyone of the big 3 ever thought of themselves as mortal beings)
Think about it. You could have stories about Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel. Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel and Batman. Wonder Woman, Superman and Captain Marvel. Etc.
You could have stories that featured all four characters, combinations of three, or team-ups of two. It would be priceless and original.
To me that seems more appealing than Justice League Lite or Two guys, a girl and a Batcave.
(That's my 90's reference y'all).
Scavenger
February 26, 2008 at 1:53 pm
My problem is the notion of the "trinity" is just so much a marketing creation. Exactly where are the stories where the three of them are the core of the hero universe, other than the reader being told that they are. Are there great stories from the silver and golden age of the three of them palling around?