Comments on: Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed #147

By: Daredevil and Lightning « The Daily P.O.P.

Daredevil and Lightning « The Daily P.O.P. — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:09:57 +0000

[...] Evanier told comicbookresources.com‘ excellent Comics Should Be Good columnist Brian Cronin about the fabled ‘toon: I wrote the bible and pilot and pilot for that [...]

By: Hal Shipman

Hal Shipman — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:32:49 +0000

“I read recently – it might have been in Wikipaedia – that V out of V for Vendetta was originally planned to be Marvelman as a way of linking those stories up, and there are hints in the early episodes of V that that is the case. Was that ever true, even slightly? The concept sounds wonderfully absurd.”
As background, all of the strips in Warrior, where both Marvelman and V debuted, were originally intended to be in a single universe. This is mentioned in a text page or editorial in, I believe, one of the very early, single digit issue numbers.

For example, the Fate computer in V was to have evolved into the system we saw in Axel Pressbutton.

So, since V and Marvelman were originally intended to have been in the same universe, the groundwork was there. There are two references in V which started the speculation:

1) Prothero has been killed by a puncture through his chest. When Finch examines the body, he says, “I’ve a nasty suspicion that whoever did that did it with their fingers.” (Chapter 3)

2) In Delia Surridge’s flashbacks to Larkhill, we see an image of the man in Room V, who became V, in silhouette, which is very close in proportions to Marvelman. However, he has no powers at the time and is described as “ugly.”

AS far as I know, Moore has never said they were ever intended to be the same character in print. His own plans regarding Marvelman also changed during his run, so even if he started with the idea, it was likley dropped as each series became more fully developed.

By: Mike Hax

Mike Hax — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:10:46 +0000

Hit enter before I could fully make my point.

I doubt that a random street thug would recognize Lightning as the same dog Daredevil sicced on them.

Even if Lightning was the dog’s civilian name as well, Matt would be smart enough to think of something.

By: Mike Hax

Mike Hax — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:07:15 +0000

I doubt that a mugger attacked by a dog would recognize the dog again

By: Geekfather

Geekfather — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:10:24 +0000

Ace could totally kick Lightning’s arse!

By: T.

T. — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:47:53 +0000

I love the Azrael-Batman saga. People worried that they were turning Batman into some sort of Spawn/Punisher/90â€™s stereotype, but all that story did was prove why Batman is above that nonsense.

Actually it had quite the opposite effect for me. By feeling the need to make Azrael such an exaggerated, over the top parody of a 90s badass to make Batman look good, I think they actually showed a lack of faith in the character and made him look worse. Demonizing the competition through outrageous exaggeration isn’t the same as selling your product’s strengths.

By: Ken Raining

Ken Raining — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:25:54 +0000

Also about Tomb of Dracula: I seem to recall something about Marv Wolfman being very upset with this, since he didn’t get paid for it at all. The japanese company just “adapted” his work without acquiring any rights. I think he may have talked about this with the Comics Journal around the time of the Blade trial.

By: Al Ewing

Al Ewing — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:41:07 +0000

I read recently – it might have been in Wikipaedia – that V out of V for Vendetta was originally planned to be Marvelman as a way of linking those stories up, and there are hints in the early episodes of V that that is the case. Was that ever true, even slightly? The concept sounds wonderfully absurd.

By: The Relic

The Relic — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:43:15 +0000

On the subject of a Tomb of Dracula pilot, I recall there being a Japanese anime from the early 1980s that was actually based on the Tomb of Dracula comic.

And on another issue concerning Batman, I recall seeing an article a long time ago that suggested that the death of Jason Todd (A Death in the Family) was actually planned all along, thus rendering the whole 1-900 thing
meaningless. Any truth to that? Sounds like a subject for this column, if it hasn’t been done already.

By: Don

Don — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:44:24 +0000

I actually kinda dig the thought of Matt having a cool canine buddy.

By: Zack Smith

Zack Smith — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:55:53 +0000

I’m curious as to how many other Marvel-based cartoons almost came out in the 1980s. At cons, I’ve seen bootlegs of pilots for TOMB OF DRACULA and MONSTER OF FRANKENSTEIN pilots, and I read a book by Jeffrey Scott on how to write animation that included the bible for a SECRET WARS cartoon in his credits. Any chance we could find out more about those shows?

By: Rich

Rich — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:21:27 +0000

Sgt pepper… yep. That’s covered in the earlier CBULR entry.

By: sgt pepper

sgt pepper — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:12:02 +0000

Wasn’t Marvels 2 turned into an Astro City arc?

By: sleeper

sleeper — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:10:32 +0000

One of my favorite things about Daredevil is that his image hasn’t been sullied by a thousand appearances in media outside of comics. Daredevil is too cool for Saturday morning TV. There’s always Spider-Man and Superman for that stuff.

I love the Azrael-Batman saga. People worried that they were turning Batman into some sort of Spawn/Punisher/90′s stereotype, but all that story did was prove why Batman is above that nonsense.

By: John Trumbull

John Trumbull — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 05:46:39 +0000

Although that second Daredevil presentation piece is by John Romita Sr., I’m fairly certain that the first one is by the late, great Doug Wildey (Creator of Rio & Jonny Quest). Wildey did a lot presentation pieces for animated shows in the 80s that often looked better than the finshed shows did.

By: Onion3000

Onion3000 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 05:33:56 +0000

All this nonsense about a dog wearing a mask… the obvious thing to do (when it’s in its secret identity) is have it wear glasses and comb its fur differently.

By: comixkid2099

comixkid2099 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:02:05 +0000

“Re: Marvels 2, Iâ€™m almost sure that was covered in CBULR some time ago. Iâ€™d advise checking the archives if youâ€™re interested.”

it was. on the masturbation/ sex/ nude week someone asked about it also.

By: Rich

Rich — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:29:42 +0000

Re: Marvels 2, I’m almost sure that was covered in CBULR some time ago. I’d advise checking the archives if you’re interested.

By: SanctumSanctorumComix

SanctumSanctorumComix — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:17:30 +0000

I don’t care what anyone has to say about DD and Lightning, but that is still some SWEET artwork by JOHN ROMITA Sr.

That man is AWESOME!

You wanted a style sheet or storyboard for ANY MARVEL project?
Give Romita Sr. a call.

Sweet!

~P~
P-TOR

By: Lightning Jack

Lightning Jack — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:17:03 +0000

Ha ha! Did anyone wonder why the dog doesn’t wear a mask? No one would recognise him.

Hey, why doesn’t the dog wear a mask?

The dog could wear a mask!Ha ha!