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		<title>By: Dalarsco</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-628977</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalarsco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it should depend on whether it&#039;s an actual run.  In Miller&#039;s case he only returned to the book for a special story arc, so I think it should be counted together.  But when a writer comes back to a book for a long term commitment it should be a separate run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it should depend on whether it&#8217;s an actual run.  In Miller&#8217;s case he only returned to the book for a special story arc, so I think it should be counted together.  But when a writer comes back to a book for a long term commitment it should be a separate run.</p>
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		<title>By: tk.</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-628629</link>
		<dc:creator>tk.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So do I kick myself *now* for not being more specific, or do I wait until the 31st?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So do I kick myself *now* for not being more specific, or do I wait until the 31st?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-627768</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I agree with Jack Norris wholeheartedly. We were specifically asked to vote on our favourite runs, not our favourite creators. I voted for Miller/Mazzucchelliâ€™s Daredevil run and Millerâ€™s solo run as writer/artist. If you amalgamate my two votes into one, then Miller wil end up receiving more points from me than my number one choice, which would hardly be a true reflection of my voting intentions.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Had I gone with merged voting, I would have just counted whichever one got the higher vote total (and just moved every other vote on the list up).

It&#039;s what I do when people make invalid choices - ignore it and move everything up one spot. :)

That said, I will be going with the separate counts - just with a notation somewhere to show how many total votes each one got, for the curious folks out there (of course, said curious folks could just add the two totals up themselves, but I&#039;m nothing if not accommodating ;)).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I agree with Jack Norris wholeheartedly. We were specifically asked to vote on our favourite runs, not our favourite creators. I voted for Miller/Mazzucchelliâ€™s Daredevil run and Millerâ€™s solo run as writer/artist. If you amalgamate my two votes into one, then Miller wil end up receiving more points from me than my number one choice, which would hardly be a true reflection of my voting intentions.</p></blockquote>
<p> Had I gone with merged voting, I would have just counted whichever one got the higher vote total (and just moved every other vote on the list up).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s what I do when people make invalid choices &#8211; ignore it and move everything up one spot. <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That said, I will be going with the separate counts &#8211; just with a notation somewhere to show how many total votes each one got, for the curious folks out there (of course, said curious folks could just add the two totals up themselves, but I&#8217;m nothing if not accommodating <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-627762</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is ACBC, John.

And yes, in the comments section of the initial entry.

Here is the link - http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/01/comics-should-be-goods-top-100-comic-book-runs/

Thanks for voting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is ACBC, John.</p>
<p>And yes, in the comments section of the initial entry.</p>
<p>Here is the link &#8211; <a href="http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/01/comics-should-be-goods-top-100-comic-book-runs/" rel="nofollow">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/01/comics-should-be-goods-top-100-comic-book-runs/</a></p>
<p>Thanks for voting!</p>
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		<title>By: John Trumbull</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-627582</link>
		<dc:creator>John Trumbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say count them separately.

I still have to vote -- Brian, what is the code you want us to use in the comments section again?  That is where you want us to vote, right?  Or should I send you my choices via e-mail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say count them separately.</p>
<p>I still have to vote &#8212; Brian, what is the code you want us to use in the comments section again?  That is where you want us to vote, right?  Or should I send you my choices via e-mail?</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard the Poet</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-627105</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard the Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jack Norris wholeheartedly. We were specifically asked to vote on our favourite runs, not our favourite creators. I voted for Miller/Mazzucchelli&#039;s Daredevil run and Miller&#039;s solo run as writer/artist. If you amalgamate my two votes into one, then Miller wil end up receiving more points from me than my number one choice, which would hardly be a true reflection of my voting intentions. 

Furthermore, any amalgamation will have the effect of downplaying the role of artist for a comic&#039;s success. Lee/Dikto&#039;s Spiderman is a very different beast to Lee/Romita&#039;s Spiderman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jack Norris wholeheartedly. We were specifically asked to vote on our favourite runs, not our favourite creators. I voted for Miller/Mazzucchelli&#8217;s Daredevil run and Miller&#8217;s solo run as writer/artist. If you amalgamate my two votes into one, then Miller wil end up receiving more points from me than my number one choice, which would hardly be a true reflection of my voting intentions. </p>
<p>Furthermore, any amalgamation will have the effect of downplaying the role of artist for a comic&#8217;s success. Lee/Dikto&#8217;s Spiderman is a very different beast to Lee/Romita&#8217;s Spiderman.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Norris</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-627074</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Some â€œseparateâ€ runs are very similar in style and theme.&quot;

Then the onus is on the voter to specify their amalgamation, rather than expect that a vague reference to artist &amp; title is to be understood as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Some â€œseparateâ€ runs are very similar in style and theme.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then the onus is on the voter to specify their amalgamation, rather than expect that a vague reference to artist &amp; title is to be understood as such.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-627059</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We were asked for favourite runs, not favourite creator &amp; book combinations. There is a difference.&lt;/i&gt;

Some &quot;separate&quot; runs are very similar in style and theme. Michelinie and Layton&#039;s runs on Iron Man, for instance. Apart from some details, they could as well have been consecutive.

Claremont is a different case, admitedly. He wrote more than 100 issues of Uncanny X-Men, so according to Brian&#039;s rules it&#039;s already mandatory to match him with an artist, so you already got his run broken into several sub-runs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We were asked for favourite runs, not favourite creator &amp; book combinations. There is a difference.</i></p>
<p>Some &#8220;separate&#8221; runs are very similar in style and theme. Michelinie and Layton&#8217;s runs on Iron Man, for instance. Apart from some details, they could as well have been consecutive.</p>
<p>Claremont is a different case, admitedly. He wrote more than 100 issues of Uncanny X-Men, so according to Brian&#8217;s rules it&#8217;s already mandatory to match him with an artist, so you already got his run broken into several sub-runs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Norris</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-627052</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and the link in this post to the main poll post is messed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the link in this post to the main poll post is messed up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Norris</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-627035</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see what&#039;s so counter-intuitive about saying which specific run one is talking about when voting. 

Although I haven&#039;t submitted my list yet (I&#039;ve got a few more days...), I started with the assumption that I had to specify co-creators or issue number ranges etc. if a creator had multiple runs (especially non-consecutive ones, unless someone is just briefly interrupted by a fill-in) or a very long run of variable quality (like Claremont on the X-Men).
We were asked for favourite runs, not favourite creator &amp; book combinations. There is a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see what&#8217;s so counter-intuitive about saying which specific run one is talking about when voting. </p>
<p>Although I haven&#8217;t submitted my list yet (I&#8217;ve got a few more days&#8230;), I started with the assumption that I had to specify co-creators or issue number ranges etc. if a creator had multiple runs (especially non-consecutive ones, unless someone is just briefly interrupted by a fill-in) or a very long run of variable quality (like Claremont on the X-Men).<br />
We were asked for favourite runs, not favourite creator &amp; book combinations. There is a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-626938</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like this should have been defined prior to voting.

Some people may have meant &quot;Miller&#039;s Daredevil run&quot; to include &#039;Born Again&#039;, since it is the single Miller Daredevil story which is most often referred to.  Other people may have specifically meant just the initial stories.  Some people may mean Miller&#039;s Daredevil run to include the issues on which he just did art (&quot;Volume One&quot; of the Visionaries book).  I think the best issue of DD Miller ever wrote was #219 -- but that can&#039;t fit in at all!  (Can it?)

Seems like you should&#039;ve solicited more specific votes, possibly including explicit issue numbers for clarity&#039;s sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like this should have been defined prior to voting.</p>
<p>Some people may have meant &#8220;Miller&#8217;s Daredevil run&#8221; to include &#8216;Born Again&#8217;, since it is the single Miller Daredevil story which is most often referred to.  Other people may have specifically meant just the initial stories.  Some people may mean Miller&#8217;s Daredevil run to include the issues on which he just did art (&#8220;Volume One&#8221; of the Visionaries book).  I think the best issue of DD Miller ever wrote was #219 &#8212; but that can&#8217;t fit in at all!  (Can it?)</p>
<p>Seems like you should&#8217;ve solicited more specific votes, possibly including explicit issue numbers for clarity&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-626878</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the minority voice here, but I&#039;d rather separate runs were combined when it&#039;s the same creators and the same characters (with notes in parenthesis saying how many votes came from each separate run).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the minority voice here, but I&#8217;d rather separate runs were combined when it&#8217;s the same creators and the same characters (with notes in parenthesis saying how many votes came from each separate run).</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Norris</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-626836</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone lists a specific run, that&#039;s what they&#039;re voting for. If you amalgamate separate runs, you&#039;re making people vote for runs they may not think are all that great. Which is much more of a problem than your concern about taking votes away from someone&#039;s &quot;overall&quot; work.
After all, the question was &quot;favourite runs&quot;, not &quot;favourite creator on a book&quot; which you&#039;re more or less making it into if you amalgamate runs that people have specifically voted for as separate and distinct. Especially in the case of non-consecutive runs, the votes for which should absolutely not be amalgamated  no matter what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone lists a specific run, that&#8217;s what they&#8217;re voting for. If you amalgamate separate runs, you&#8217;re making people vote for runs they may not think are all that great. Which is much more of a problem than your concern about taking votes away from someone&#8217;s &#8220;overall&#8221; work.<br />
After all, the question was &#8220;favourite runs&#8221;, not &#8220;favourite creator on a book&#8221; which you&#8217;re more or less making it into if you amalgamate runs that people have specifically voted for as separate and distinct. Especially in the case of non-consecutive runs, the votes for which should absolutely not be amalgamated  no matter what.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-626756</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that idea, avengers63!! I think I&#039;ll go with that (well, a variation of it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that idea, avengers63!! I think I&#8217;ll go with that (well, a variation of it).</p>
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		<title>By: avengers63</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-626265</link>
		<dc:creator>avengers63</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, the Clairmont run gets consideration my artist due to the length of the run, so it&#039;s just not an equal comparison.

I&#039;m with the camp saying to keep the results separate.

What COULD be done is dual listings.  Using the example of the combined Miller DD coming in at #15, put 2 #15 entries: the combined Miller DD with an asterix or in parenthesis and the stand-alone #15.  Then list the separate runs in their proper #38 &amp; #59 spots.  In this way you can ALMOST keep both camps happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the Clairmont run gets consideration my artist due to the length of the run, so it&#8217;s just not an equal comparison.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with the camp saying to keep the results separate.</p>
<p>What COULD be done is dual listings.  Using the example of the combined Miller DD coming in at #15, put 2 #15 entries: the combined Miller DD with an asterix or in parenthesis and the stand-alone #15.  Then list the separate runs in their proper #38 &amp; #59 spots.  In this way you can ALMOST keep both camps happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Midnight</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-626218</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Midnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a BIG difference between &quot;Claremont&#039;s X-Men&quot; and the &quot;Claremont/Byrne&quot; X-Men......with Byrne co-plotting (without the proper credit)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a BIG difference between &#8220;Claremont&#8217;s X-Men&#8221; and the &#8220;Claremont/Byrne&#8221; X-Men&#8230;&#8230;with Byrne co-plotting (without the proper credit)</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard the Poet</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-626155</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard the Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you have to count them as separate runs. They&#039;re separate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you have to count them as separate runs. They&#8217;re separate.</p>
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		<title>By: BDaly</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-626093</link>
		<dc:creator>BDaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Mordy. The Claremont argument doesn&#039;t matter, because that shouldn&#039;t be a problem if people are following the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Mordy. The Claremont argument doesn&#8217;t matter, because that shouldn&#8217;t be a problem if people are following the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Thenodrin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-625756</link>
		<dc:creator>Thenodrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to go the other way and suggest to combine the two.

I mean, unless there are a lot of people who voted for both runs, separately. Otherwise, you are really punishing the more popular run on the merits of the less just as much as rewarding the less popular run on the merits of the more.

Theno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to go the other way and suggest to combine the two.</p>
<p>I mean, unless there are a lot of people who voted for both runs, separately. Otherwise, you are really punishing the more popular run on the merits of the less just as much as rewarding the less popular run on the merits of the more.</p>
<p>Theno</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Burk</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/03/25/question-about-the-runs-list/comment-page-1/#comment-625738</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Burk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was one of the people who voted for Miller/Mazzuchelli and I very specifically selected that as opposed to Miller&#039;s earlier run because I think it&#039;s one of the best comics runs ever and even better than Miller&#039;s earlier work. So yeah, they should count separately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was one of the people who voted for Miller/Mazzuchelli and I very specifically selected that as opposed to Miller&#8217;s earlier run because I think it&#8217;s one of the best comics runs ever and even better than Miller&#8217;s earlier work. So yeah, they should count separately.</p>
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