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Late Snark Free Corner for 4/7

I’ll admit, with all the preparation for the Top Runs countdown (while also writing a bit for the Comic Book Alphabet), I totally forgot about Snark Free Corner yesterday! Sorry! So here you go, your latest installment of your breath of snark free air!

Enjoy!

SNARK FREE DEBATE

Who was the best artist during Doug Moench’s run on Master of Kung Fu?

There were four main artists during Doug Moench’s run on Master of Kung Fu: Paul Gulacy, Jim Craig, Mike Zeck and Gene Day.

All of them had their strengths and weaknesses, but who was the best artist for the book?

Gulacy’s run is the most famous, while Craig is the least famous.

Gulacy has probably the coolest faces, while Zeck was the best action depicter of the four (in my humble opinion, of course).

Day was the most detailed of the four, and I think the best at creating a mood.

I dunno, it’s a really close call between the four.

What say you all?

COVER THEME GAME

As always, here is the game. I show three covers. They all have something in common, whether it be a character, a trait all three characters share, locale, creator, SOMEthing. And it isn’t something obvious like “They all have prices!” “They all have logos!” “They all feature a man!” etc.

In addition, please note that you must have some familiarity with comic book history to correctly guess these comics. You cannot guess the connective theme just by looking at the covers solely, you must have some knowledge beyond just the covers.

A cool point to the first person to figure it out!

Good luck!

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SNARK FREE CHALLENGE

Who is the smarter Hank – Pym or McCoy?

THE COVER GAME

This week’s game is as follows…

Find me a Spider-Man cover where his costume is in some tattered shape (only if the body of the costume is in tatters, not if the only part of the costume that is torn is the mask – as that seems to happen a little too frequently, so only if something OTHER than just the mask is torn).

Like this cover (which you can’t use)…

Remember, only one cover per commenter!

Good luck!

WHO IS IT?

Remember, tell me who it is and what number clue gave it away!

1. This character was created by Gerry Conway.
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3. An Avenger made his or her first appearance in this character’s comic book.
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4. A SEPARATE Avenger made his or her first appearance under a new name in a comic starring this character (also, to boot, this Avenger was on the same team with the Avenger in clue #3!!)
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5. This character’s secret identity is one of those pun names, like USAgent’s two secret identities (Johnny Walker and Jack Daniels, respectively – by the by, do you think the Johnny Walker name was intentional? Jack Daniels clearly was, but I dunno about Johnny Walker – it MIGHT have been a coincidence).

Who is it?

Well, that’s it for this installment of Snark Free Corner Sorry for the delay!!

Hope you had fun!

31 Comments

Who is it – Luke Cage?

Or the Punisher – Frank Castle?

Tom Fitzpatrick

April 8, 2008 at 8:29 pm

Late?!?
YOU should be taken out behind the barn and shot, drawn and quartered, horse-whipped, beaten to the inch of your life … at the so very least.

Don’t be late again!!!! ;-)

Cover theme game: Gamora, Brother Voodoo and Beetle all debuted in Strange Tales.

Who Is It? Jack Russell, Werewolf by Night, on number 3

I’ll have to give it up to Gene Day as best of a good lot of Shang-Chi artists. His run on the title was magnificent.

For a shredded costume, here’s (the adjectiveless) Spider-Man #5 http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=83572&zoom=4.

By the way, in Who Is It, the Avenger referenced in clue #3 is Moon Knight, and in #4 is Tigra.

Late? Gasp. I feel…snarky.

:)

Thanks for the follow-up, Rob M. I knew Tigra, but didn’t know Moon Knight. That would have bugged me not knowing.

Does the “Top Runs” countdown also mean Judging Books by their Covers will also be delayed?

It’s the segment I most look forward to on this blog!

You’re killing me here, Andrew! :)

I will do my absolute best to get June’s Judging Comics for Marvel and DC out before July’s shows up! :)

Oh, and yes, the Strange Tales one is correct, and the Who Is It is, indeed, Werewolf By Night.

I think that Hank Pym is smarter. He invented Pym particles, he invented the AntMan helmet, he invented Ultron (ok that is science smarts, maybe not worldly smart). I only think that Hank McCoy invented the serum that made him furry, and I don’t think the intent was to make himelf more beast-y. Plus, Tony and Reed are always calling on Pym, not McCoy. I think that McCoy is better read and better rounded in his intelligence (he has a mind for medicine, politics, and poetry), but Pym is a scientific genius with few peers.

Graham Vingoe

April 9, 2008 at 3:18 am

Hands down Gene Day is my favourite artist for the MOKF run. As you say his ability to evoke a mood and create wonderful out of the ordinary page layouts coupled with superb detailed art makes him THE best artist associated with the title although he was around at the wrong end of the titles run so he’ll always be overshadowed by gulacy in most peopl’s eyes.
Now if he’d lived long enough to work on batman as was planned when he quit Marvel I’m sure he’d be regarded as one of THE bat artists

Pym is a better scientist, but Beast is smarter.

He takes time to learn things like ethics and philosophy, and I don’t think the fact that he’s never created a murderous artificial life form should count against him, but rather it should count as a point for him.

Gotta go with Pym, and I’m an X-Men fanboy. I mean, come on, Beast drank his experimental formula to prevent it from getting into the wrong hands. You’re enough of a genius to come up with this formula, but not smart enough to come up with a better way to hide it?

On the Pym vs McCoy debate:

Has there ever been a definitive ranking of the “smartest people” in the Marvel U.? Amadeus Cho is constantly referred to as the “7th smartest person in the world,” but have they ever said who the first 6 are? Reed, Tony Stark, Pym, McCoy, Bruce Banner, Dr. Doom even?

For the Spidey cover game, here’s one of the red/gold costume (Civil War #5):

http://www.dynamicforces.com/images/civilwar5.jpg

Has anyone found one yet of the black costume in tatters?

Cover game: Spider-Man Reign #1
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/bestselling-comics-2007/582-1.jpg

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Pym is more successful and expert in his field. On one hand he invented the Pym Particles, but on the other hand he created Ultron and practically a jerk. He’s smart and genious, but it’s all being halted by his complicated and troubled personality.
McCoy is not as successful, but he’s smart and expert in many fields, some of them are not even science. He has no famous inventions. Hank is mostly the X-Men go-to science and medical persona. His only attempt to create something useful was to “cure” mutants but eventually caused his own further mutation. The next time he wroked on anything was the cure to the Legacy virus on which he spent years. He did find a cure, thanks to the notes left by the deceased Moira MacTaggert. And he’s not a jerk.

I’d vote for Mike Zeck as the best artist. I like it when things are just a little but cartoony. That’s why I love Paul Smith, Weringo(sp?), and Imonen.

Pym or McCoy? That’s tough, but I’d have to go with Pym (and I reeeeally don’t like the character). McCoy seems to have only one focus. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but there’s really one thing Hank does: biology. Pym does biology, entymology, cybernetics, robotics, and artificial intelligence, and computer programing. He’s had major breakthroughs in those fields with Pym Particles, the ant man suit/helmet, and Ultron. Who’s actually smarter? who knows. Pym is clearly more accomplished, so he gets the nod.

In reaction to Pyb getting called more than McCoy, there’s a simple explanation. The X-Men characters generally aren’t allowed to cross over into the rest of the M.U. They’re kept cordoned off in their own little section that doesn’t interact with the rest of the world. Kinda like the U.S. government has done with the American Indians.

I agree with the comments so far about Pym eing a better scientist but McCoy having a broader knowledge.

David, I think youre list probably covers the first six. Reed is definitely one and Doom definitely two.
Stark’s probably three. It’s hard to be sure about the rest. What about T’Challa? What about Peter Parker (I’m guessing he’s not quite on that level)?

[quote]In reaction to Pyb getting called more than McCoy, there’s a simple explanation. The X-Men characters generally aren’t allowed to cross over into the rest of the M.U. They’re kept cordoned off in their own little section that doesn’t interact with the rest of the world. Kinda like the U.S. government has done with the American Indians.[/quote]

Don’t forget that Beast was part of the Avengers for years. Still, I don’t think they see him much as the scientist or smart man of the team and there will always be others before him (Stark, Pym).

Don’t worry, Tomer, I haven’t forgotten.Thone Who Sit In Darkness seem to have forgotten, though. The only time (it seems) that they’ll let Beast cross over is to hang out with Simon Williams.

That Master of Kung Fu question is tough……Gene Day. Man I hope Mike Zeck doesn’t know where I live

On MOKF, I’d have to lean to Gulacy, which I would have thought would be the consensus choice, but so far no one’s picked him.

Zeck and Day did some very fine work in MOKF, but for Gulacy, it was where you saw someone evolve into a unique artist. Much in the same way that Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD was for Steranko. Some of Gulacy’s early issues of MOKF looked like bad Steranko imitations, just as some of Steranko’s early SHIELD stuff looked like bad Kirby. But by the time he reached MOKF #50, Gulacy’s work was really amazing.

The Craig issues were the artistic weak spot of Moench’s MOKF run, but even there the art was very solid. And actually I thought the stories during that run were among the best that Moench wrote.

On Pym vs. McCoy, I gotta say Pym’s smarter, but you’d never want to have to rely on him. What I’ve always wondered, though, is why Marvel doesn’t use McCoy more as a liaison between the X-Men and the Avengers. He’s the one character with strong ties to both sides, and you’d think they’d find that valuable.

Pym might have more pure scientific acumen, but when it comes to all around intelligence it has to be McCoy.
The Strange Tales is an answer, but they also all feature heroes who debuted as villains (Gamora, Deadpool, and all three visible Thunderbolts).

I voted the Moench/Gulacy run of MOKF #4 on my list. What Gulacy did better than the others was capture the feel of not only the “Britishness” of Rohmer’s books, but the “Chineseness” of Kung Fu. While I enjoyed the other artists, they seemed to be drawing standard superhero fights when compared to the postures and poses Gulacy drew.

Remember that bit in Enter the Dragon when Bruce Lee kicks a guy so hard it seems like he kicked him clean out of the movie? That’s what Gulacy’s art looked like. The Shang Chi vs The Cat fight is one of the greatest fights ever drawn.

For David Mayer

I did find an issue of Spider-Man wearing the Black costume with a rip in it. It’s only a small tear but it’s there nonetheless.

http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/images/spiderman_spectacular/132.jpg

Hank Pym is definitely more accomplished as a scientist. McCoy never really followed through on his education, and is limited by that. But the differences may solely be a matter of education. Based on McCoy’s not having the benefit of Pym’s education, but still doing so much, I’d say he has an edge on sheer intelligence.

Gulacy was good, and THE MOKF artist, (poor Jim Craig, having to follow not just Gulacy, but that amazing final story!) but I actually prefer Zeck as inked by Day. The Zeck/Day combination was action-packed and beautiful. Day by himself was nice, but his work was more design-oriented and I think the actual storytelling suffered a bit. Even so, I’d have been more than happy to have had many more Moench/Day issues. We still miss you, Gene.

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