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By: Filisteu » Blog Archive » Top Runs

Filisteu » Blog Archive » Top Runs — Mon, 05 May 2008 11:16:19 +0000

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By: sean

sean — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:24:43 +0000

The oversized trades of ‘Concrete’ were readily available at the New York Comic Con last week, pretty cheap, but I already had 6 of the 7 slightly undersized ones [shame -- I read the first oversized, and the art really does deserve that size... but I'm a completist, and the new 7 small ones have everything]. I did manage to get the last of the undersizeds that I needed.

By: RichYan33

RichYan33 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:44:35 +0000

Invincible? It’s a nice book and Ottley is a terrific artist but it’s a ramora. It’s a thinly veiled Else Worlds book that relies way to heavy on DC continuity rather than say…creating it’s own. It’s lazy writing.

The Byrne Superman ret-con, while much needed at the time, was really not very good and most of what he established has long since been re-ret-conned out of existance.

By: Top 100 Comic Book Runs #80-76

Top 100 Comic Book Runs #80-76 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:54:11 +0000

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By: Joshua Nelson

Joshua Nelson — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:18:38 +0000

Alright!!!
It’s nice to see there are 116 folks out there who agree with me on “Wildcats”. If you ask me, Volume 2 was the exemplar of the early 21st century as far as a team superhero book is concerned. And 3.0 is quite possibly the greatest superhero-based book of all time (well, until WS axed the “Eye” line and started pressuring Casey into that “Coda War” action arc) and should be right up there with “The Ultimates 1″ as far pushing things forward within a genre…

By: wwk5d

wwk5d — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:42:39 +0000

Lucifer and Concrete are 2 series I’ll have to check out. Lucifer I’m really looking forward to as I’m really enjoying Carey’s work on X-men.

Interestingly enough, Casey used many of his ideas for WildCATS during his run on Uncanny X-men as a kind of test run…specifically, having Warren Worthington/Angel use his family fortune to effect change, as opposed to fighting. One of the few bright spots of that run lol

I prefer Byrne’s version of Superman, and the Superman universe, actually. But that’s just me.

By: Lance

Lance — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:48:37 +0000

Mike, I’ll always love you, but when I asked you not to put Play-Doh in the Salad Shooter, i meant it.

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By: Elliot Kane

Elliot Kane — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:02:30 +0000

Good to see Lucifer made the final cut. Definitely one of my all time favourites

By: Hondo

Hondo — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:16:47 +0000

I’m completely amazed Chadwick’s Concrete ranked this highly. You never hear about the character any more. What’s Chadwick doing these days anyway ? Byrne’s Superman was good, but I liked others better, particularly Ordway’s and later McGuinness’. I haven’t given Lucifer a fair shake. I’ve only read bits and pieces and was completely lost. Invincible looks great though I haven’t gotten it yet. Wildcats, what I read of it, was fantastic.

By: Lorendiac

Lorendiac — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:51:03 +0000

Darren Close — I believe I considered voting for Byrne’s 6-issue “Man of Steel” mini all by itself (although I finally didn’t), but I couldn’t see myself voting for his entire two-year run on various Superman series and miniseries. I loved “Man of Steel,” but some of his later stories struck me as a lot less impressive. More like “who’s the villain of the month?” formula stuff.

Although who knows? It’s been some years since I last read through Byrne’s entire run on the regular monthly Superman titles — as opposed to an issue here and a couple of issues there, to research one specific thing or another — so maybe I ought to look at a bunch of those issues again with a “fresh” set of eyes and see if my opinion has shifted! Isaac Asimov once said that when he, as a teenager, first saw Fritz Lang’s film “Metropolis,” he thought it was hilarious (which was not Lang’s intention). Decades later, he watched it again and found it was incredible how much the film had matured since he last saw it. (Or someone had matured, anyway! )

By: Darren Close

Darren Close — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:07:06 +0000

Hmm, frankly I can’t believe Byrne’s Superman run only got as high as 75. In my book it’s gotta be at least in the top 25. But that’s me. All of these lists are subjective, but aside from that I’m really enjoying this series, some great gems in here.

By: Pedro BouÃ§a

Pedro BouÃ§a — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:32:55 +0000

Yeah, they are totally out of print. And are from a time where the print runs of comics TPBs were a fraction of today’s.

The thing is, I think Concrete DESERVES to be kept in print in larger-sized TPBs FAR more than most books that currently are. But we will have to take the digests and if Dark Horse ever puts out a deluxe edition it will be seriously overpriced like the recent Sin City one.

Best,
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)

By: Dan Felty

Dan Felty — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:39:57 +0000

Concrete is lovely.

Dark Horse did publish full size trades of the first series & DHP stories as “The Complete Concrete” and “The Complete Short Stories.” They are probably out of print, but they exist.

By: Teebore

Teebore — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:23:16 +0000

*Slaps forehead*

How could I completely forget about Casey’s Wildcats? I loved that run, and was so sad to see it go. Had I not brain-farted, it definitely would have made my list.

By: avengers63

avengers63 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:40:52 +0000

I’ve always wanted to read Concrete. The reviews were alway sconsistently great. This is one I’ll definately have to get the first trade of and give it a shot.

FWIW: I thought the Byrne Superman was fine. It was a relaunch immediately following Crisis. It was SUPPOSED to be different from the G/A & S/A versions. I never understood all the complaints when Byrne did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do.

By: sgt pepper

sgt pepper — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:46:53 +0000

So far, this list is pretty much what I expected. It’s essentially a list of very good creator owned properties or corporate properties that have (pretty much) only had one writer involved. Most of these aren’t “runs” (though, yes, obviously some of them are).

By: Pedro BouÃ§a

Pedro BouÃ§a — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:17:15 +0000

Changing a bit the subject, I don’t understant why Concrete is reprinted digest-sized while A LOT of other comics with much worse art (not to mention writing) get reprinted in regular size or even oversized!

Chadwick is a brilliant artist! His artwork shouldn’t be shrunk (and, in some cases, lose its colors) like that.

Best,
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)

By: Pedro BouÃ§a

Pedro BouÃ§a — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:14:09 +0000

Not brazilian, but I lived there for a long time, including my teen years, when I bought Byrne’s Superman and many other classic comic runs.

And it’s not really my wish to turn this into a Byrne Superman rules X Byrne Superman sucks flame war. I just want people to notice that complaining about something that’s long gone like John Byrne’s Superman run is just pettiness. I mean, I HATED Bill Mantlo’s Alpha Flight, but I don’t waste my time going after everyone who is praising Mantlo’s writing on the blogosphere (a Bill Mantlo renaissance… I will never be able to wrap my mind around THAT!) to say it sucked. That’s stupid.

Best,
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)

By: Rene

Rene — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:01:17 +0000

Pedro, you’re Brazilian too, right?

I also like Byrne’s Superman a lot. And hate the mad scientist version of Lex Luthor. Well, okay, not hate, but I pity him. And I don’t think it’s quite right to have a comic where the supervillain is the one to be so pathetic and pitied amd helpless.