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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked &#039;Supreme&#039;, but I liked every run ranked below it that I&#039;ve read more.  Especially shocked it beat &#039;Top 10&#039;.

It should be noted how poor the trade collections really look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked 'Supreme', but I liked every run ranked below it that I've read more.  Especially shocked it beat 'Top 10'.</p>
<p>It should be noted how poor the trade collections really look.</p>
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		<title>By: Hondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>authority gl/ga stern avengers supreme johns flash

Warren Ellis &amp; Bryan Hitch&#039;s Authority - This run was huge for me.  It didn&#039;t make my list but would have definitely been in my Top 20.  This run moved the bar up in a way that hasn&#039;t happened since the New X-Men debuted.  This was crazy good.  If you dig spandex and are somewhat familiar with Ellis&#039; work, how could you not like this ?    All this an The Bleed.

Denny O&#039;Neil &amp; Neal Adams&#039; Green Lantern / Green Arrow - Truly a ground breaking series, though O&#039;Neil gets a little preachy and heavy handed and his dialogue is painful in spots, but Adams works is, once again, legendary and always a joy to behold.  An essential part of any collection IMO but not overall making the cut for me.

Stern&#039;s Avengers - Missed this run with art by Big John Buscema and Tom Palmer (nice).  Sounds good but I haven&#039;t read it.  

Alan Moore&#039;s Supremen - Don&#039;t know how a Silver Age Superfan couldn&#039;t love these.  Definite keepers.

Johns&#039; Flash - I picked it up from the first issue and pretty much didn&#039;t let it down until the end.  Johns really got the character and his world, just like he did with JSA and GL.  The only Johns stories I haven&#039;t cared for are the latter Infinite Crisis.  His fleshing out the Rogues Gallery was great and I liked how he tried to add some new dimension and characters.  Solid reading.</description>
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<p>Warren Ellis &amp; Bryan Hitch's Authority - This run was huge for me.  It didn't make my list but would have definitely been in my Top 20.  This run moved the bar up in a way that hasn't happened since the New X-Men debuted.  This was crazy good.  If you dig spandex and are somewhat familiar with Ellis' work, how could you not like this ?    All this an The Bleed.</p>
<p>Denny O'Neil &amp; Neal Adams' Green Lantern / Green Arrow - Truly a ground breaking series, though O'Neil gets a little preachy and heavy handed and his dialogue is painful in spots, but Adams works is, once again, legendary and always a joy to behold.  An essential part of any collection IMO but not overall making the cut for me.</p>
<p>Stern's Avengers - Missed this run with art by Big John Buscema and Tom Palmer (nice).  Sounds good but I haven't read it.  </p>
<p>Alan Moore's Supremen - Don't know how a Silver Age Superfan couldn't love these.  Definite keepers.</p>
<p>Johns' Flash - I picked it up from the first issue and pretty much didn't let it down until the end.  Johns really got the character and his world, just like he did with JSA and GL.  The only Johns stories I haven't cared for are the latter Infinite Crisis.  His fleshing out the Rogues Gallery was great and I liked how he tried to add some new dimension and characters.  Solid reading.</p>
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		<title>By: mclennon</title>
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		<dc:creator>mclennon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put Tariq.</description>
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		<title>By: Tariq Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tariq Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, if you actually go back and read the other stuff available in comics in the early seventies, there wasn&#039;t anything that overtly leftist, believe me.

Van Sciver&#039;s comment bears some agreement, and does take the world of DC comics into account, but not the climate of the early seventies.

Reading it now - even as the lefty that I am - I shudder at how lacking in nuance the arguments being made were, but if you consider the time they were written, things were unfortunately viewed pretty polemically by any mainstream media/entertainment.

I think that what tends to get missed because of the political aspect of these stories in GL/GA is that it was the first serious time that DC tried to give more of a defined - as opposed to generic - character to these two characters.

This has had both good and bad consequences for both of them.

In the case of GL, it too Johns to finally reconcile the aspects of character, so that Hal wasn&#039;t JUST a navel-gazing and introspective whiner. 

In the case of GA, I think that has started to happen to some extent  only now.

My other problem with the writing is that it actually condescends (though I appreciate it does so unintentionally) towards left-leaning people as well as right-leaning people, by presenting caricatures of both.  Though O&#039;Neil was at times &#039;fair and balanced&#039; - he did afterall write more than a few were Oliver got it wrong, and where his extremist tendencies actually created more problems.

However, it was a step in the right direction towards using the medium as a ptential tool for ideas beyond simple super-heroics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, if you actually go back and read the other stuff available in comics in the early seventies, there wasn't anything that overtly leftist, believe me.</p>
<p>Van Sciver's comment bears some agreement, and does take the world of DC comics into account, but not the climate of the early seventies.</p>
<p>Reading it now - even as the lefty that I am - I shudder at how lacking in nuance the arguments being made were, but if you consider the time they were written, things were unfortunately viewed pretty polemically by any mainstream media/entertainment.</p>
<p>I think that what tends to get missed because of the political aspect of these stories in GL/GA is that it was the first serious time that DC tried to give more of a defined - as opposed to generic - character to these two characters.</p>
<p>This has had both good and bad consequences for both of them.</p>
<p>In the case of GL, it too Johns to finally reconcile the aspects of character, so that Hal wasn't JUST a navel-gazing and introspective whiner. </p>
<p>In the case of GA, I think that has started to happen to some extent  only now.</p>
<p>My other problem with the writing is that it actually condescends (though I appreciate it does so unintentionally) towards left-leaning people as well as right-leaning people, by presenting caricatures of both.  Though O'Neil was at times 'fair and balanced' - he did afterall write more than a few were Oliver got it wrong, and where his extremist tendencies actually created more problems.</p>
<p>However, it was a step in the right direction towards using the medium as a ptential tool for ideas beyond simple super-heroics.</p>
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		<title>By: mclennon</title>
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		<dc:creator>mclennon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GL/GA has definitely dated.  And I think those issues are rather one-sided politically (maybe my memory is faulty here, but Hal didn&#039;t come off all that conservative did he?).  People really overstate the &#039;bravery&#039; of the creators on that one.  For 30 years now we&#039;ve had leftist creators being praised by a leftist media and a mostly sympathetic fan base.  Wow, way to go out on a limb there.  Steve Ditko, inserting Objectivism theory in Mr. A seems more daring, but what do I know.  

Ethan Van Sciver had the best line about this - When Lantern hangs his head in shame after being confronted by a black man (&quot;You save the purple man, but what about the black man&quot;) what he should have said was &quot;Do you live on Earth?  Then I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve done something seeing as how I&#039;ve saved the planet over a hundred times&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GL/GA has definitely dated.  And I think those issues are rather one-sided politically (maybe my memory is faulty here, but Hal didn't come off all that conservative did he?).  People really overstate the 'bravery' of the creators on that one.  For 30 years now we've had leftist creators being praised by a leftist media and a mostly sympathetic fan base.  Wow, way to go out on a limb there.  Steve Ditko, inserting Objectivism theory in Mr. A seems more daring, but what do I know.  </p>
<p>Ethan Van Sciver had the best line about this - When Lantern hangs his head in shame after being confronted by a black man ("You save the purple man, but what about the black man") what he should have said was "Do you live on Earth?  Then I'm pretty sure I've done something seeing as how I've saved the planet over a hundred times"</p>
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		<title>By: Tariq Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tariq Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iâ€™m a big Denny Oâ€™Neil fan, but I agree the writing on GL/GA has dated. Thatâ€™s not all badâ€“ I mean, itâ€™s kind of neat, in an historical way, that it gives us such a clear snapshot of what comics and their culture were like in the early 70sâ€“ but it does make for painful speechifying at times. The Neal Adams art, however, holds up beautifullyâ€“ the covers are some of his best ever, and the work inside the book is extraordinarily dynamic and exciting. If Oâ€™Neilâ€™s preachy scripts insipired that kind of work, then theyâ€™re totally worth it.&quot;
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I do agree that the writing is dated - and I know I am splitting hairs here, and feel you would probably agree with me - but what I found interesting when I re-read the run recently, and compared it to its contemporaries at both Marvel and DC, was that the writing was actually 10 to 15 years AHEAD of itself.

So, dated &quot;yes&quot; but in my opinion dated in the way that average comics of the 1980&#039;s are.  Head and shoulders less dated than most stuff published in the 1970&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Iâ€™m a big Denny Oâ€™Neil fan, but I agree the writing on GL/GA has dated. Thatâ€™s not all badâ€“ I mean, itâ€™s kind of neat, in an historical way, that it gives us such a clear snapshot of what comics and their culture were like in the early 70sâ€“ but it does make for painful speechifying at times. The Neal Adams art, however, holds up beautifullyâ€“ the covers are some of his best ever, and the work inside the book is extraordinarily dynamic and exciting. If Oâ€™Neilâ€™s preachy scripts insipired that kind of work, then theyâ€™re totally worth it."<br />
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<p>I do agree that the writing is dated - and I know I am splitting hairs here, and feel you would probably agree with me - but what I found interesting when I re-read the run recently, and compared it to its contemporaries at both Marvel and DC, was that the writing was actually 10 to 15 years AHEAD of itself.</p>
<p>So, dated "yes" but in my opinion dated in the way that average comics of the 1980's are.  Head and shoulders less dated than most stuff published in the 1970's.</p>
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		<title>By: Press: Digital Comics in TOP100 &#171; Content Digital</title>
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		<description>[...] Mooreâ€™s Supreme â€” reissued by Checker on WOWIO â€” is voted among the Top 100 Comic Book RunsComics Should Be Good readers at leading online comics magazine CBR. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Top 100 Lists Should Be Good &#171; Goki&#8217;s Giving Groin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top 100 Lists Should Be Good &#171; Goki&#8217;s Giving Groin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Graeme Burk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Burk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
But Oâ€™Neilâ€™s writing is top-rate too. His GA is a great character, while his GL is less a straw man than a thoughtful individual unsure of the right thing to do in a complicated &amp; conflicted world. If you donâ€™t see yourself in Oâ€™Neilâ€™s Hal Jordan, itâ€™s because you donâ€™t read the news often enough. These stories have an urgency &amp; emotion that hits you in the gut.

Itâ€™s not just that Oâ€™Neill brought modern politics into mainstream comics (setting a precedent for everything from Mooreâ€™s â€œWatchmenâ€ to Millarâ€™s â€œAuthorityâ€). Itâ€™s that they derive their conflicts from the political &amp; social subjects, through dramatic metaphors &amp; character conflict. Itâ€™s simply smart writing, far beyond the supervillainy &amp; slugfests that are standard even forty years later.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m with Mr. Strange. I had GL/GA in my list too because of much the same reasons. Any DC comic that will quote from Norman Mailer in 1969 is doing something right in my book.

But I think the characterisation is really what defines it for me. Hal and Ollie have such wonderful and distinctive voices. They felt to me real in ways that no comic character of its time ever felt. They were different politically and yet both very haunted people in different ways. I loved that aspect of it. 

I think it&#039;s honestly better than their Batman-- O&#039;Neil and Adams influenced each other and stretched each other creatively on this book in all sorts of ways. I think it&#039;s dated insofar as the approach to the issues have dated but I think there&#039;s something about it that&#039;s still quite vital.</description>
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But Oâ€™Neilâ€™s writing is top-rate too. His GA is a great character, while his GL is less a straw man than a thoughtful individual unsure of the right thing to do in a complicated &amp; conflicted world. If you donâ€™t see yourself in Oâ€™Neilâ€™s Hal Jordan, itâ€™s because you donâ€™t read the news often enough. These stories have an urgency &amp; emotion that hits you in the gut.</p>
<p>Itâ€™s not just that Oâ€™Neill brought modern politics into mainstream comics (setting a precedent for everything from Mooreâ€™s â€œWatchmenâ€ to Millarâ€™s â€œAuthorityâ€). Itâ€™s that they derive their conflicts from the political &amp; social subjects, through dramatic metaphors &amp; character conflict. Itâ€™s simply smart writing, far beyond the supervillainy &amp; slugfests that are standard even forty years later.
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<p>I'm with Mr. Strange. I had GL/GA in my list too because of much the same reasons. Any DC comic that will quote from Norman Mailer in 1969 is doing something right in my book.</p>
<p>But I think the characterisation is really what defines it for me. Hal and Ollie have such wonderful and distinctive voices. They felt to me real in ways that no comic character of its time ever felt. They were different politically and yet both very haunted people in different ways. I loved that aspect of it. </p>
<p>I think it's honestly better than their Batman-- O'Neil and Adams influenced each other and stretched each other creatively on this book in all sorts of ways. I think it's dated insofar as the approach to the issues have dated but I think there's something about it that's still quite vital.</p>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting batch.

I found Ellis&#039;s run on The Authority to be a real let-down after his excellent run on Stormwatch.  Not bad, but not that great.  Hopefully this means that Millar&#039;s run (which I much preferred) is still to come....

GL/GA is historic and all that, but both the writing and art date really badly (strangely considering neither dates badly from O&#039;Neil + Adams&#039;s Batman run)

Supreme was reasonably fun, but I wouldn&#039;t put it in the top 100.

For My tastes, probably the only run here that I&#039;d  put in the top 100 is Geoff John&#039;s Flash - which is strange considering O&#039;Neil, Ellis and Moore are all much better writers than Geoff Johns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting batch.</p>
<p>I found Ellis's run on The Authority to be a real let-down after his excellent run on Stormwatch.  Not bad, but not that great.  Hopefully this means that Millar's run (which I much preferred) is still to come....</p>
<p>GL/GA is historic and all that, but both the writing and art date really badly (strangely considering neither dates badly from O'Neil + Adams's Batman run)</p>
<p>Supreme was reasonably fun, but I wouldn't put it in the top 100.</p>
<p>For My tastes, probably the only run here that I'd  put in the top 100 is Geoff John's Flash - which is strange considering O'Neil, Ellis and Moore are all much better writers than Geoff Johns.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Nowlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Nowlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Stern&#039;s Avengers.  It didn&#039;t make my list, but I really wanted it to.  But then I love a lot of Avengers.  I hope Micheline and Englehart still show up.  But the low rankings of classic Marvel stuff makes me wonder.  I assume Busiek&#039;s will show up still, which is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Stern's Avengers.  It didn't make my list, but I really wanted it to.  But then I love a lot of Avengers.  I hope Micheline and Englehart still show up.  But the low rankings of classic Marvel stuff makes me wonder.  I assume Busiek's will show up still, which is good.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is a disturbingly common misconcption. Millarâ€™s take was blunt and upfront, but itâ€™s all there in Ellisâ€™s run, particularly in Jenny Sparksâ€™s speeches. Ellisâ€™s run also ends far better, without the backtracking stupitiy of Millarâ€™s final issue that undermines the whole thing.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Being more political did not make Millar&#039;s run better or anything. 

It&#039;s not a value judgment to say Millar&#039;s run focused on politics while Ellis&#039; did not. It&#039;s just a description of their respective runs. 

And the political aspect of the Authority that has become such a major aspect of the series was introduced by Millar, for the most part. Ellis let his characters, like Jenny, each have their own particular political beliefs, but it was not the driving force of the comic the way it was in later issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is a disturbingly common misconcption. Millarâ€™s take was blunt and upfront, but itâ€™s all there in Ellisâ€™s run, particularly in Jenny Sparksâ€™s speeches. Ellisâ€™s run also ends far better, without the backtracking stupitiy of Millarâ€™s final issue that undermines the whole thing.</p></blockquote>
<p> Being more political did not make Millar's run better or anything. </p>
<p>It's not a value judgment to say Millar's run focused on politics while Ellis' did not. It's just a description of their respective runs. </p>
<p>And the political aspect of the Authority that has become such a major aspect of the series was introduced by Millar, for the most part. Ellis let his characters, like Jenny, each have their own particular political beliefs, but it was not the driving force of the comic the way it was in later issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Strange</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Strange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that the GL/GA run has dated poorly at all. Naturally, Adams&#039; artwork is superlative, arguably the best of his career.

But O&#039;Neil&#039;s writing is top-rate too. His GA is a great character, while his GL is less a straw man than a thoughtful individual unsure of the right thing to do in a complicated &amp; conflicted world. If you don&#039;t see yourself in O&#039;Neil&#039;s Hal Jordan, it&#039;s because you don&#039;t read the news often enough. These stories have an urgency &amp; emotion that hits you in the gut.

It&#039;s not just that O&#039;Neill brought modern politics into mainstream comics (setting a precedent for everything from Moore&#039;s &quot;Watchmen&quot; to Millar&#039;s &quot;Authority&quot;). It&#039;s that they derive their conflicts from the political &amp; social subjects, through dramatic metaphors &amp; character conflict. It&#039;s simply smart writing, far beyond the supervillainy &amp; slugfests that are standard even forty years later.

Also, to claim that the issues have dated is simply ridiculous. Social problems like racism, sexism, drug abuse, corporate exploitation &amp; pollution, and over-population are still very much with us. O&#039;Neil &amp; Adams point the way for comic books to be involved &amp; informed by political activity &amp; social work.

And don&#039;t forget that this run not only raised Green Arrow&#039;s &amp; Black Canary&#039;s profiles, it also introduced John Stewart. This is the real deal: superhero comics for adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think that the GL/GA run has dated poorly at all. Naturally, Adams' artwork is superlative, arguably the best of his career.</p>
<p>But O'Neil's writing is top-rate too. His GA is a great character, while his GL is less a straw man than a thoughtful individual unsure of the right thing to do in a complicated &amp; conflicted world. If you don't see yourself in O'Neil's Hal Jordan, it's because you don't read the news often enough. These stories have an urgency &amp; emotion that hits you in the gut.</p>
<p>It's not just that O'Neill brought modern politics into mainstream comics (setting a precedent for everything from Moore's "Watchmen" to Millar's "Authority"). It's that they derive their conflicts from the political &amp; social subjects, through dramatic metaphors &amp; character conflict. It's simply smart writing, far beyond the supervillainy &amp; slugfests that are standard even forty years later.</p>
<p>Also, to claim that the issues have dated is simply ridiculous. Social problems like racism, sexism, drug abuse, corporate exploitation &amp; pollution, and over-population are still very much with us. O'Neil &amp; Adams point the way for comic books to be involved &amp; informed by political activity &amp; social work.</p>
<p>And don't forget that this run not only raised Green Arrow's &amp; Black Canary's profiles, it also introduced John Stewart. This is the real deal: superhero comics for adults.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Gualtieri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Gualtieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People often forget that the whole political aspects of The Authority really did not come about until Mark Millar took over. Ellis and Hitch were more about wowing the audience with over-the-top, dynamic stories (with nice character work still, of course). &quot;

This is a disturbingly common misconcption. Millar&#039;s take was blunt and upfront, but it&#039;s all there in Ellis&#039;s run, particularly in Jenny Sparks&#039;s speeches. Ellis&#039;s run also ends far better, without the backtracking stupitiy of Millar&#039;s final issue that undermines the whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"People often forget that the whole political aspects of The Authority really did not come about until Mark Millar took over. Ellis and Hitch were more about wowing the audience with over-the-top, dynamic stories (with nice character work still, of course). "</p>
<p>This is a disturbingly common misconcption. Millar's take was blunt and upfront, but it's all there in Ellis's run, particularly in Jenny Sparks's speeches. Ellis's run also ends far better, without the backtracking stupitiy of Millar's final issue that undermines the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halfway through the run and the first title from my list makes the cut (O&#039;Neil and Adams &#039;Green Lantern/Green Arrow&#039;).  Makes me think that some of my, shall we say, more obscure choices did not make the cut.  We&#039;ll wait and see, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halfway through the run and the first title from my list makes the cut (O'Neil and Adams 'Green Lantern/Green Arrow').  Makes me think that some of my, shall we say, more obscure choices did not make the cut.  We'll wait and see, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GL/GA was my &quot;Oh crap, I forgot!&quot; non-pick. I&#039;m surprised it&#039;s not higher.

I totally want to read that lunch story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GL/GA was my "Oh crap, I forgot!" non-pick. I'm surprised it's not higher.</p>
<p>I totally want to read that lunch story.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See: The Wasp take a lunch!</description>
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		<title>By: Jacob T. Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob T. Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Stern run was the only time I ever really enjoyed Avengers (I was a DC kid) until the Busiek run.

I&#039;ve never really understood the love for GJ&#039;s Flash.  Maybe that&#039;s because Waid convinced me that Wally should be a fundamentally happy hero, one who thinks he&#039;s got the coolest power in the world, a wife he adores, and lots of heroic friends (speedsters, the Titans, the JLA).  The Zoom/ miscarriage/ Spectre/ secret ID story and the darkening (and, for some, the de-reforming) of the Rogues, especially in the Top story and Rogue War, made Wally&#039;s world a much uglier place, and while they might have had the skill and talent GJ usually brings, I kept failing to enjoy them at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Stern run was the only time I ever really enjoyed Avengers (I was a DC kid) until the Busiek run.</p>
<p>I've never really understood the love for GJ's Flash.  Maybe that's because Waid convinced me that Wally should be a fundamentally happy hero, one who thinks he's got the coolest power in the world, a wife he adores, and lots of heroic friends (speedsters, the Titans, the JLA).  The Zoom/ miscarriage/ Spectre/ secret ID story and the darkening (and, for some, the de-reforming) of the Rogues, especially in the Top story and Rogue War, made Wally's world a much uglier place, and while they might have had the skill and talent GJ usually brings, I kept failing to enjoy them at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a big Denny O&#039;Neil fan, but I agree the writing on GL/GA has dated. That&#039;s not all bad-- I mean, it&#039;s kind of neat, in an historical way,  that it gives us such a clear snapshot of what comics and their culture were like in the early 70s-- but it does make for painful speechifying at times. The Neal Adams art, however, holds up beautifully-- the covers are some of his best ever, and the work inside the book is extraordinarily dynamic and exciting. If O&#039;Neil&#039;s preachy scripts insipired that kind of work, then they&#039;re totally worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm a big Denny O'Neil fan, but I agree the writing on GL/GA has dated. That's not all bad-- I mean, it's kind of neat, in an historical way,  that it gives us such a clear snapshot of what comics and their culture were like in the early 70s-- but it does make for painful speechifying at times. The Neal Adams art, however, holds up beautifully-- the covers are some of his best ever, and the work inside the book is extraordinarily dynamic and exciting. If O'Neil's preachy scripts insipired that kind of work, then they're totally worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Loughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised to see Supreme so far up on the list. I thought they were good, fun comics, but I thought it was more pastiche (clever pastiche, admittedly) than substance. I think Rick Veitch&#039;s contributions should be mentioned in the write-up, however- he managed to ape the styles of Golden &amp; Silver Age Superman artists, EC horror artists, Mad magazine, Jim Starlin, Jack Kirby, Mike Sekowsky, etc. and make it all look good.

&quot;Under Siege&quot; remains my favorite Avengers story. I haven&#039;t read the rest of Stern&#039;s run (are any other issues collected in trade?), but I could see voting for his run on Avengers based on that one story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm surprised to see Supreme so far up on the list. I thought they were good, fun comics, but I thought it was more pastiche (clever pastiche, admittedly) than substance. I think Rick Veitch's contributions should be mentioned in the write-up, however- he managed to ape the styles of Golden &amp; Silver Age Superman artists, EC horror artists, Mad magazine, Jim Starlin, Jack Kirby, Mike Sekowsky, etc. and make it all look good.</p>
<p>"Under Siege" remains my favorite Avengers story. I haven't read the rest of Stern's run (are any other issues collected in trade?), but I could see voting for his run on Avengers based on that one story.</p>
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