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	<title>Comments on: Top 100 Comic Book Runs #15-13</title>
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		<title>By: RichYan33</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichYan33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I remember being thrilled that Walt was taking over this book and it started out very good but I remember it got weak and silly (Frog Thor). I don&#039;tn think I&#039;ve ever gone back and re-read a single issue of this run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I remember being thrilled that Walt was taking over this book and it started out very good but I remember it got weak and silly (Frog Thor). I don'tn think I've ever gone back and re-read a single issue of this run.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why is it just â€œGrant Morrisonâ€™sâ€ Doom Patrol - Richard Case illustrated almost every issue. How about some love for Richie?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That strikes me as right.

Grant Morrison is a great comic writer, but he is really reliant upon his artists to make the story understandable.  Many of the symbols and metaphors that he traffics in are visual.  An awful lot of his character work is very subtle.  When you see his scripts drawn by a Frank Quietley, a Richard Case or a Ryan Sook; it is a totally different experience than seeing his scripts drawn by others.  IMO, that is why his &quot;Invisibles&quot; struggled until Phil Jimmenez took the assignment.  

This is more true of Morrison than any other great comic writer I can name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why is it just â€œGrant Morrisonâ€™sâ€ Doom Patrol - Richard Case illustrated almost every issue. How about some love for Richie?</p></blockquote>
<p>That strikes me as right.</p>
<p>Grant Morrison is a great comic writer, but he is really reliant upon his artists to make the story understandable.  Many of the symbols and metaphors that he traffics in are visual.  An awful lot of his character work is very subtle.  When you see his scripts drawn by a Frank Quietley, a Richard Case or a Ryan Sook; it is a totally different experience than seeing his scripts drawn by others.  IMO, that is why his "Invisibles" struggled until Phil Jimmenez took the assignment.  </p>
<p>This is more true of Morrison than any other great comic writer I can name.</p>
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		<title>By: Hondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put Grant Morrison&#039;s because that was the most important creator that made the run for me and that way if there were any other artists besides Richard Case, which I believe there were IIRC, they would be included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put Grant Morrison's because that was the most important creator that made the run for me and that way if there were any other artists besides Richard Case, which I believe there were IIRC, they would be included.</p>
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		<title>By: Burgertron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burgertron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it just &quot;Grant Morrison&#039;s&quot; Doom Patrol - Richard Case illustrated almost every issue. How about some love  for Richie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it just "Grant Morrison's" Doom Patrol - Richard Case illustrated almost every issue. How about some love  for Richie?</p>
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		<title>By: fourthworlder</title>
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		<dc:creator>fourthworlder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That whole Candle-Maker storyline was some of the scariest shit I&#039;ve ever read.
When Cliff got immobilized and his brain was removed and trashed... 
I had to go wash my hands after reading that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That whole Candle-Maker storyline was some of the scariest shit I've ever read.<br />
When Cliff got immobilized and his brain was removed and trashed...<br />
I had to go wash my hands after reading that.</p>
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		<title>By: Hondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>simonson thor, doom patrol, y

None of these runs made my Top 10 despite me loving all of them.

Simonson&#039;s Thor was great, yes, but would be in my Top 50.  Very good yes but apparently I wasn&#039;t quite as taken with it as most.  That cover to 337 was truly shocking back in the day.  Besides Tom Scioli and Jose Ladronn, Walt Simonson certainly has his own style but really vibes dynamic Kirby.  I loved his Thor and I think I liked his Fourth World the best.  For some reason his sci-fi FF felt kinda clunky.

Grant Morrison&#039;s Doom Patrol is probably the essential Grant Morrison work in my mind.  They were so bizarre, psychedelic and wild that you had no idea what was going to happen.  I esp liked the issue that showed The Chief to be a real sicko who set all of them up to fail and become part of his group.  What a mind bender !  Richard Case&#039;s art was great and fit the book well.  

I&#039;ve only ever read the first 3 issues of Y but I was blown away by how good I thought it was.  In fact, I loaned it to a non-comics reading friend and never got it back but plan on getting the mega huge complete collected version later.  BKV rocks.  I&#039;m shocked at the negative feedback here about Y.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simonson thor, doom patrol, y</p>
<p>None of these runs made my Top 10 despite me loving all of them.</p>
<p>Simonson's Thor was great, yes, but would be in my Top 50.  Very good yes but apparently I wasn't quite as taken with it as most.  That cover to 337 was truly shocking back in the day.  Besides Tom Scioli and Jose Ladronn, Walt Simonson certainly has his own style but really vibes dynamic Kirby.  I loved his Thor and I think I liked his Fourth World the best.  For some reason his sci-fi FF felt kinda clunky.</p>
<p>Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol is probably the essential Grant Morrison work in my mind.  They were so bizarre, psychedelic and wild that you had no idea what was going to happen.  I esp liked the issue that showed The Chief to be a real sicko who set all of them up to fail and become part of his group.  What a mind bender !  Richard Case's art was great and fit the book well.  </p>
<p>I've only ever read the first 3 issues of Y but I was blown away by how good I thought it was.  In fact, I loaned it to a non-comics reading friend and never got it back but plan on getting the mega huge complete collected version later.  BKV rocks.  I'm shocked at the negative feedback here about Y.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Funny that the efforts to argue in the series favor also donâ€™t seem to be thinking very hard about how to illustrate the series virtues!&quot;

Here&#039;s the best point of Y: every time you read (past-tense) an issue, the first thing on your mind is &quot;damn, I really wish the next one was already here.&quot; There were very few times during the entire run when the ending of one issue didn&#039;t get me incredibly excited to see the next one.

Since this is a survey of comic *runs*, that more than qualifies it in my book.

Joe: What was wrong with what happened to 355? The series was building to a bittersweet ending for a while.

(I personally thought that the fanboys would be more riled up about what happened with Beth.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Funny that the efforts to argue in the series favor also donâ€™t seem to be thinking very hard about how to illustrate the series virtues!"</p>
<p>Here's the best point of Y: every time you read (past-tense) an issue, the first thing on your mind is "damn, I really wish the next one was already here." There were very few times during the entire run when the ending of one issue didn't get me incredibly excited to see the next one.</p>
<p>Since this is a survey of comic *runs*, that more than qualifies it in my book.</p>
<p>Joe: What was wrong with what happened to 355? The series was building to a bittersweet ending for a while.</p>
<p>(I personally thought that the fanboys would be more riled up about what happened with Beth.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lynxara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynxara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so ridiculous to say that Y&#039;s writing is good because it&#039;s more plausible than Marvel&#039;s 60&#039;s B-movie science fiction pastiche that I don&#039;t know where to start. The stories aren&#039;t even remotely in the same genres! If you can&#039;t come up with a better defense of the series than that you&#039;re just not thinking. I don&#039;t even like Y and I could come up with a better argument in its favor than something so unthinking, so trite, and so bitterly foolish. 

Incidentally, the reason why I disliked Y is that most of its plot arcs and character points didn&#039;t seem very well thought through and didn&#039;t follow logically from the set-up established in the book. It was a series that wanted you to stop thinking about how they got from A to B, and instead dwell on the situation created (which was... sadly generic to &quot;what if women ruled the world??&quot; sci-fi stuff, if well-done in terms of craft). 

Funny that the efforts to argue in the series favor also don&#039;t seem to be thinking very hard about how to illustrate the series virtues!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's so ridiculous to say that Y's writing is good because it's more plausible than Marvel's 60's B-movie science fiction pastiche that I don't know where to start. The stories aren't even remotely in the same genres! If you can't come up with a better defense of the series than that you're just not thinking. I don't even like Y and I could come up with a better argument in its favor than something so unthinking, so trite, and so bitterly foolish. </p>
<p>Incidentally, the reason why I disliked Y is that most of its plot arcs and character points didn't seem very well thought through and didn't follow logically from the set-up established in the book. It was a series that wanted you to stop thinking about how they got from A to B, and instead dwell on the situation created (which was... sadly generic to "what if women ruled the world??" sci-fi stuff, if well-done in terms of craft). </p>
<p>Funny that the efforts to argue in the series favor also don't seem to be thinking very hard about how to illustrate the series virtues!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My final 12:
12 - Millar Sin City
11 - Robinson Starman
10 - Perez Wonder Woman
9 - Morrison JLA
8 - Wolfman / Perez  New Teen Titans
7 - Giffen / DeMattis JLI
6 - Swamp Thing Moore
5 - Gaiman Sandman
4 - Lee / Kirby FF
3 - Lee / Ditko Spidey
2 - Miller DD
1 - Claremont / Byrne X Men</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My final 12:<br />
12 - Millar Sin City<br />
11 - Robinson Starman<br />
10 - Perez Wonder Woman<br />
9 - Morrison JLA<br />
8 - Wolfman / Perez  New Teen Titans<br />
7 - Giffen / DeMattis JLI<br />
6 - Swamp Thing Moore<br />
5 - Gaiman Sandman<br />
4 - Lee / Kirby FF<br />
3 - Lee / Ditko Spidey<br />
2 - Miller DD<br />
1 - Claremont / Byrne X Men</p>
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		<title>By: layne</title>
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		<dc:creator>layne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golly, Doom Patrol was my #1 (I think, I lost my list.).

My certainty that Tintin and Nth Man will make the 100 is beginning to wane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golly, Doom Patrol was my #1 (I think, I lost my list.).</p>
<p>My certainty that Tintin and Nth Man will make the 100 is beginning to wane.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Y didn&#039;t make much scientific sense?&quot;

And &quot;cosmic rays&quot; turning you into a rockman does?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Y didn't make much scientific sense?"</p>
<p>And "cosmic rays" turning you into a rockman does?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Gualtieri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Gualtieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, it&#039;s not backlash festishism, it&#039;s that the year of Y really was awful and the period between Safeword and that last year was kind of blah. I don&#039;t want to say too much because the last trade isn&#039;t out yet.

-355 and Dr. Mann hooking up midway through just felt like fanboy pandering.

-Someone else already mentioned the plague revelation. It&#039;s convoluted, boring, and means there was a huge bit of coincidence in the series (more than one, actually).

-355&#039;s final fate I&#039;m shocked didn&#039;t inspire some backlash. Even morseo, I&#039;m shocked that the bit immediately beforehand didn&#039;t raise the ire of the blogosphere.

-Alter. Some people dislike Preacher because of how Starr&#039;s treated in the series. Well, Alter is the anti-Starr. She&#039;s built up and built up, but ultimately it&#039;s all sound and fury. She seems to be there more becuase long running Vertigo books need to have a big bad  post-Sandman than any story need (Transmet- the Smiler, Invisibles- Sir Miles, Preacher- Starr, Fables- the Adversary).

So sorry, Y could have been great, but instead it wound up being merely medicore, with one brilliant arc in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, it's not backlash festishism, it's that the year of Y really was awful and the period between Safeword and that last year was kind of blah. I don't want to say too much because the last trade isn't out yet.</p>
<p>-355 and Dr. Mann hooking up midway through just felt like fanboy pandering.</p>
<p>-Someone else already mentioned the plague revelation. It's convoluted, boring, and means there was a huge bit of coincidence in the series (more than one, actually).</p>
<p>-355's final fate I'm shocked didn't inspire some backlash. Even morseo, I'm shocked that the bit immediately beforehand didn't raise the ire of the blogosphere.</p>
<p>-Alter. Some people dislike Preacher because of how Starr's treated in the series. Well, Alter is the anti-Starr. She's built up and built up, but ultimately it's all sound and fury. She seems to be there more becuase long running Vertigo books need to have a big bad  post-Sandman than any story need (Transmet- the Smiler, Invisibles- Sir Miles, Preacher- Starr, Fables- the Adversary).</p>
<p>So sorry, Y could have been great, but instead it wound up being merely medicore, with one brilliant arc in it.</p>
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		<title>By: fourthworlder</title>
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		<dc:creator>fourthworlder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be curious to ask Walt Simonson how he feels about his Thor ranking eighty or ninety spots ahead of Kirby&#039;s. I&#039;m pretty sure he would find the concept as preposterous as I do.

And I liked Beta Ray Bill as much as anybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd be curious to ask Walt Simonson how he feels about his Thor ranking eighty or ninety spots ahead of Kirby's. I'm pretty sure he would find the concept as preposterous as I do.</p>
<p>And I liked Beta Ray Bill as much as anybody.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For the record, I voted for JLI but not Morrisonâ€™s bombastic but ultimately blah run&quot;
Superman fighting an angel was more interesting than One Punch!.</description>
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Superman fighting an angel was more interesting than One Punch!.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Nowlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Nowlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet to read Doom Patrol.  Probably will one of these days.

Love Simonson&#039;s Thor and am glad to see it this high.

Think Y is an excellent series, though I&#039;m in the camp that cynically believes its high placement has more to do with it being both good and recent.  But whatever.  Brian will do this again in 5-10 years (right?) and we&#039;ll see where things land then.  Come 2050 or so, we&#039;ll get to see what runs made the list over and over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet to read Doom Patrol.  Probably will one of these days.</p>
<p>Love Simonson's Thor and am glad to see it this high.</p>
<p>Think Y is an excellent series, though I'm in the camp that cynically believes its high placement has more to do with it being both good and recent.  But whatever.  Brian will do this again in 5-10 years (right?) and we'll see where things land then.  Come 2050 or so, we'll get to see what runs made the list over and over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Norris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kind of reassuring to remember that this is just what people have voted on, not the &quot;true&quot; best ever, whatever that might mean.
General reactions to various things that have been said:
&quot;Doom Patrol&quot; was high on my list, and &quot;Animal Man&quot; was absent, so it&#039;s obvious what I rate as the best of early period Morrison.
&quot;Y&quot; wasn&#039;t the Best Thing Ever, but on the other hand the level of hatred is just silly and clearly just Gratuitous Backlash Fetishism. As far as the whole issue of it being on the list as a result of temporal inflation, well, that&#039;s probably true, but I&#039;ve seen examples of that same inflation on this list that I&#039;ve found much more annoying, involving genuinely crappy books, and I&#039;ve held my tongue, so whatever...
Loved SImonson&#039;s Thor, looked forward to his FF, which I then found to be one of the most disappointing runs ever.
Pulling for JLI, which was on my vote list, and which won me over because I was bailing on Marvel, which was entering an early proto-grim n&#039; gritty phase at the time. &quot;Fun: what a novel idea!&quot; I thought at the time, having OD&#039;ed on moaning mutants.
DeFalco sucked utterly for something like the first five years of his career, before gradually ascending to tolerability. Spider Girl is surprisingly palatable. Does a great job at recreating an old school all-ages flavour, where the Marvel Adventures stuff can often feel forced and synthetic.
I&#039;ve already resigned myself to the fact that some of my all time favourite stuff is just not going to make it. My sole consolation may have to be a bit of schadenfreude over the fact that some stuff I can&#039;t stand but which I know has quite the following might be squeezed out by the mechanics of the way this vote works (someone pointed out that some pretty major runs might be on a lot of people&#039;s 11 to 20 list, thus never showing up here).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's kind of reassuring to remember that this is just what people have voted on, not the "true" best ever, whatever that might mean.<br />
General reactions to various things that have been said:<br />
"Doom Patrol" was high on my list, and "Animal Man" was absent, so it's obvious what I rate as the best of early period Morrison.<br />
"Y" wasn't the Best Thing Ever, but on the other hand the level of hatred is just silly and clearly just Gratuitous Backlash Fetishism. As far as the whole issue of it being on the list as a result of temporal inflation, well, that's probably true, but I've seen examples of that same inflation on this list that I've found much more annoying, involving genuinely crappy books, and I've held my tongue, so whatever...<br />
Loved SImonson's Thor, looked forward to his FF, which I then found to be one of the most disappointing runs ever.<br />
Pulling for JLI, which was on my vote list, and which won me over because I was bailing on Marvel, which was entering an early proto-grim n' gritty phase at the time. "Fun: what a novel idea!" I thought at the time, having OD'ed on moaning mutants.<br />
DeFalco sucked utterly for something like the first five years of his career, before gradually ascending to tolerability. Spider Girl is surprisingly palatable. Does a great job at recreating an old school all-ages flavour, where the Marvel Adventures stuff can often feel forced and synthetic.<br />
I've already resigned myself to the fact that some of my all time favourite stuff is just not going to make it. My sole consolation may have to be a bit of schadenfreude over the fact that some stuff I can't stand but which I know has quite the following might be squeezed out by the mechanics of the way this vote works (someone pointed out that some pretty major runs might be on a lot of people's 11 to 20 list, thus never showing up here).</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be contrary, and admit that I actually like Sin City. If only because a party of me is fascinated by extremity.

That comic has so much testosterone and closeted (and denied) homosexuality that it fascinates me. Not the sort of thing I&#039;d vote for or even buy, but I&#039;ll certainly read it if a friend lends me his copy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'll be contrary, and admit that I actually like Sin City. If only because a party of me is fascinated by extremity.</p>
<p>That comic has so much testosterone and closeted (and denied) homosexuality that it fascinates me. Not the sort of thing I'd vote for or even buy, but I'll certainly read it if a friend lends me his copy.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just last week I was lamenting to a friend how the frequent re-boots on titles hurts anyoneâ€™s ability to have a title in the 600+ like Batman, Superman and a very few others have made it. But, realizing this trend, it makes me wonder if maybe titles shouldnâ€™t begin and end with a writer or writing team.&quot;

I think Marvel opened a real can of worms when they rebooted so many of their titles in the late 90s.  FF, Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Avengers, Daredevil, Hulk and Amazing Spider-Man, most of which had over 400 issues logged were suddenly back to zero.  I HATED it at the time, and took consolation only from the fact that somehow, my beloved Uncanny (even though it had been mostly crap for years, with the exception of Seagle&#039;s run) was spared.  I love big numbering because of the sense of continuity it gives.  I know it&#039;s geeky but I have a big left brain and I loved being able to reference issue numbers like born-agains use Bible verses, and that&#039;s a lot more fun when you&#039;ve got one large run, with big numbers to use.

But once they pulled those rugs away it&#039;s kinda like there was no going back... even though they did reinstate the old numbering for a lot of them, and with FF and ASM it actually stuck.

These days, now that we don&#039;t have those big numbers to play with, it might actually make more sense to just give a fresh, full volume to a creative team, at least if they&#039;re willing to stick around for a few years.  It&#039;s worked well enough with Priest&#039;s Black Panther, Bru&#039;s Cap, and I almost wish Morrison&#039;s New X-men were a complete series because it stood on its own so profoundly.  Coversely, the way they&#039;ve handled the Hulk&#039;s numbering for the last ten years seems silly because there&#039;s no method to it.  Sometimes they reboot, sometimes they don&#039;t, and it doesn&#039;t seem to have any consistent correlation with how much of a shift there is in the actual title.  Why didn&#039;t they give Pak a new number 1 if they&#039;re giving Loeb one (he wasn&#039;t a big enough name I guess, but his take was more distinct that any we&#039;ve seen in a while)?

Good point about Swamp Thing, though... maybe they should keep a title going until they really do find a creator who hits his stride and sticks around long enough to finish a story, and then relaunch.  Oh, wait, I guess they did that with Pak&#039;s Hulk!  So maybe there&#039;s no problem, lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Just last week I was lamenting to a friend how the frequent re-boots on titles hurts anyoneâ€™s ability to have a title in the 600+ like Batman, Superman and a very few others have made it. But, realizing this trend, it makes me wonder if maybe titles shouldnâ€™t begin and end with a writer or writing team."</p>
<p>I think Marvel opened a real can of worms when they rebooted so many of their titles in the late 90s.  FF, Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Avengers, Daredevil, Hulk and Amazing Spider-Man, most of which had over 400 issues logged were suddenly back to zero.  I HATED it at the time, and took consolation only from the fact that somehow, my beloved Uncanny (even though it had been mostly crap for years, with the exception of Seagle's run) was spared.  I love big numbering because of the sense of continuity it gives.  I know it's geeky but I have a big left brain and I loved being able to reference issue numbers like born-agains use Bible verses, and that's a lot more fun when you've got one large run, with big numbers to use.</p>
<p>But once they pulled those rugs away it's kinda like there was no going back... even though they did reinstate the old numbering for a lot of them, and with FF and ASM it actually stuck.</p>
<p>These days, now that we don't have those big numbers to play with, it might actually make more sense to just give a fresh, full volume to a creative team, at least if they're willing to stick around for a few years.  It's worked well enough with Priest's Black Panther, Bru's Cap, and I almost wish Morrison's New X-men were a complete series because it stood on its own so profoundly.  Coversely, the way they've handled the Hulk's numbering for the last ten years seems silly because there's no method to it.  Sometimes they reboot, sometimes they don't, and it doesn't seem to have any consistent correlation with how much of a shift there is in the actual title.  Why didn't they give Pak a new number 1 if they're giving Loeb one (he wasn't a big enough name I guess, but his take was more distinct that any we've seen in a while)?</p>
<p>Good point about Swamp Thing, though... maybe they should keep a title going until they really do find a creator who hits his stride and sticks around long enough to finish a story, and then relaunch.  Oh, wait, I guess they did that with Pak's Hulk!  So maybe there's no problem, lol</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Strand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Strand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>14-30? I&#039;m 23, and I take offense at that. I&#039;d say it&#039;s more like 14-16.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>14-30? I'm 23, and I take offense at that. I'd say it's more like 14-16.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Loughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Sin City is one of those comics readers really like for a few years, then outgrow. It&#039;s even more geared for ages  14-30 or so than many super-hero comics.

Green Arrow &amp; Atom vs. Darkseid: possibly the best moment in Morrison&#039;s JLA. My other favorite is J&#039;Onn&#039;s &quot;Joker... STOP!&quot; Way more mature than Sin City. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Sin City is one of those comics readers really like for a few years, then outgrow. It's even more geared for ages  14-30 or so than many super-hero comics.</p>
<p>Green Arrow &amp; Atom vs. Darkseid: possibly the best moment in Morrison's JLA. My other favorite is J'Onn's "Joker... STOP!" Way more mature than Sin City. <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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