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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 00:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did vote for the Thomas/Buscema Conan and I figured it was the biggest shoe-in of my roster.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 18:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My #7 pick was the Killraven issues of Amazing Adventures (18-39). They blew my mind as a 10-year old!</description>
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		<title>By: Doug Atkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Atkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Didnâ€™t he even appear as a modern general â€” when he ought to be long past the mandatory retirement age â€” during the â€œOur Worlds at Warâ€ event?&quot;

Looking at his Wikipedia entry, there&#039;s been a lot of back-and-forthing on Rock&#039;s survival past WWII.  Apparently Kanigher made of point of stressing that he didn&#039;t survive the war because he wasn&#039;t wild about his appearances in superhero crossovers.

After apparently dying in OWAW, he turned up again in Giffen&#039;s short-lived Suicide Squad revival, but was revealed at the end to be wearing a mask.  (In a detail I had forgotten, they note that the series ended with the line &quot;Frank Rock died in 1945.&quot;) Which sounds to me like either Giffen had long-term plans that didn&#039;t have a chance to come off, or someone decided to clamp down on the idea of Rock still being around.  The identity of the General Rock in OWAW and Suicide Squad could safely be said to be up in the air, in other words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Didnâ€™t he even appear as a modern general â€” when he ought to be long past the mandatory retirement age â€” during the â€œOur Worlds at Warâ€ event?"</p>
<p>Looking at his Wikipedia entry, there's been a lot of back-and-forthing on Rock's survival past WWII.  Apparently Kanigher made of point of stressing that he didn't survive the war because he wasn't wild about his appearances in superhero crossovers.</p>
<p>After apparently dying in OWAW, he turned up again in Giffen's short-lived Suicide Squad revival, but was revealed at the end to be wearing a mask.  (In a detail I had forgotten, they note that the series ended with the line "Frank Rock died in 1945.") Which sounds to me like either Giffen had long-term plans that didn't have a chance to come off, or someone decided to clamp down on the idea of Rock still being around.  The identity of the General Rock in OWAW and Suicide Squad could safely be said to be up in the air, in other words.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;Colin&lt;/B&gt; -- okay, okay, I guess I must have seen and then automatically ignored and forgot about the Showcase reprint volumes for Sgt. Rock and Enemy Ace, because I&#039;ve simply never been a serious collector of the &quot;war comics&quot; genre. I&#039;ll buy at least one or the other of those volumes, the next chance I get. (I think I read a few reprints of some of the earlier Sgt. Rock stories, once upon a time, and I&#039;ve seen him as a guest-star in a few superhero comics of the late 70s and 80s, and so forth. Didn&#039;t he even appear as a modern general -- when he ought to be long past the mandatory retirement age -- during the &quot;Our Worlds at War&quot; event?) 

As to Enemy Ace -- I&#039;ve read a Batman story in which it was implied that Von Hammer&#039;s ghost guided him through the paces of winning a dogfight in WWI-era planes, and I&#039;ve read a &quot;silent movie&quot;-style story John Byrne wrote about him for a Christmas special back around 1989 . . . and I don&#039;t know if he appears in anything else in my entire collection!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Colin</b> -- okay, okay, I guess I must have seen and then automatically ignored and forgot about the Showcase reprint volumes for Sgt. Rock and Enemy Ace, because I've simply never been a serious collector of the "war comics" genre. I'll buy at least one or the other of those volumes, the next chance I get. (I think I read a few reprints of some of the earlier Sgt. Rock stories, once upon a time, and I've seen him as a guest-star in a few superhero comics of the late 70s and 80s, and so forth. Didn't he even appear as a modern general -- when he ought to be long past the mandatory retirement age -- during the "Our Worlds at War" event?) </p>
<p>As to Enemy Ace -- I've read a Batman story in which it was implied that Von Hammer's ghost guided him through the paces of winning a dogfight in WWI-era planes, and I've read a "silent movie"-style story John Byrne wrote about him for a Christmas special back around 1989 . . . and I don't know if he appears in anything else in my entire collection!</p>
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		<title>By: Trey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 02:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason none of these made the list is that none of em are top 10 runs. Although many are very good comics,  the voting (which only counts top 10) real knocked out many of these. 

Take GI JOE, although a great, fun series, not many would list it as Top 10 of All-time.  I mean seriously, Marvel Westerns, Savage Dragon, PAD Aquaman?  While fine and cool comis, who would put those in a top 10 of all-time list?  

The one serious omission is Thomas and Buscema Conan, which many probably overlooked. I, myself did not vote., just lurking and really enjoying everyone&#039;s comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason none of these made the list is that none of em are top 10 runs. Although many are very good comics,  the voting (which only counts top 10) real knocked out many of these. </p>
<p>Take GI JOE, although a great, fun series, not many would list it as Top 10 of All-time.  I mean seriously, Marvel Westerns, Savage Dragon, PAD Aquaman?  While fine and cool comis, who would put those in a top 10 of all-time list?  </p>
<p>The one serious omission is Thomas and Buscema Conan, which many probably overlooked. I, myself did not vote., just lurking and really enjoying everyone's comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, Johnny the Homicidal Maniac was so awful.  I bought it off of the recommendations of some of my friends back in highschool and liked Vasquez&#039;s inking the first time I read through it, but the story was just goddamn terrible I practically cringed reading it.  I ended up selling my copy shortly after attempting to reread it to see if it would get any better upon reflection (it didn&#039;t).  

Anyway, I&#039;m pretty sure the reason JtHM didn&#039;t make the list is precisely because its fanbase is almost exclusively limited to people who have &quot;no interest in any other comics.&quot;  From my experience, Vasquez fans pretty much only read JtHM, Squee, the Filler Bunny Spinoffs, and possibly Roman Dirge&#039;s Lenore, and as such they almost certainly wouldn&#039;t be regular readers of Comic Book Resources or this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, Johnny the Homicidal Maniac was so awful.  I bought it off of the recommendations of some of my friends back in highschool and liked Vasquez's inking the first time I read through it, but the story was just goddamn terrible I practically cringed reading it.  I ended up selling my copy shortly after attempting to reread it to see if it would get any better upon reflection (it didn't).  </p>
<p>Anyway, I'm pretty sure the reason JtHM didn't make the list is precisely because its fanbase is almost exclusively limited to people who have "no interest in any other comics."  From my experience, Vasquez fans pretty much only read JtHM, Squee, the Filler Bunny Spinoffs, and possibly Roman Dirge's Lenore, and as such they almost certainly wouldn't be regular readers of Comic Book Resources or this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Alvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 22:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t suprised that it didn&#039;t make the list, but I kinda thought, maybe Stan Lee &amp; Gene Colan on DareDevil, it was a good run after all Stan Lee said in the 2007 Overstreet it was his favorite strip to write.
I notice in other comments someone mentions not reading any of Joe Kuberts Tarzan, Sgt Rock or Enemy Ace I grew up with these The Ace is a favorite and I highly reccomend this for something different, that would have been great if the Enemy Ace run had made the list, Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn't suprised that it didn't make the list, but I kinda thought, maybe Stan Lee &amp; Gene Colan on DareDevil, it was a good run after all Stan Lee said in the 2007 Overstreet it was his favorite strip to write.<br />
I notice in other comments someone mentions not reading any of Joe Kuberts Tarzan, Sgt Rock or Enemy Ace I grew up with these The Ace is a favorite and I highly reccomend this for something different, that would have been great if the Enemy Ace run had made the list, Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Loughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leonardo Manco&#039;s art was perfect for Ostrander&#039;s Westerns. I haven&#039;t thought of them in a couple of years, but I really liked them.

Did Johnny the Homicidal Maniac make the list? I don&#039;t remember seeing it. I remember when it was an &quot;it&quot; book. I knew a few people who read it that had no interest in any other comics (besides Sandman, maybe).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonardo Manco's art was perfect for Ostrander's Westerns. I haven't thought of them in a couple of years, but I really liked them.</p>
<p>Did Johnny the Homicidal Maniac make the list? I don't remember seeing it. I remember when it was an "it" book. I knew a few people who read it that had no interest in any other comics (besides Sandman, maybe).</p>
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		<title>By: Lynxara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynxara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Lone Wolf &amp; Cub make the list?</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about Ostrander&#039;s Marvel Western minis?  I love Blaze of Glory and Apache Skies.  They gave the characters from Marvel&#039;s old West a fitting send off, and I for one reread them once a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Ostrander's Marvel Western minis?  I love Blaze of Glory and Apache Skies.  They gave the characters from Marvel's old West a fitting send off, and I for one reread them once a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had one pick miss the list and it dawned on me that no manga made the list at all.  I put down Tezuka&#039;s Buddha, but I am sure there are others like Akira that could have gone in as well.     Did anyone else vote for a manga?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had one pick miss the list and it dawned on me that no manga made the list at all.  I put down Tezuka's Buddha, but I am sure there are others like Akira that could have gone in as well.     Did anyone else vote for a manga?</p>
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		<title>By: jackdaw53</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackdaw53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 09:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect a lot of my top 10, if I&#039;d joined earlier enough to vote, would be outside the top 100. Because I&#039;d have probably included stuff like:-

Time Twisters by Alan Moore
Peter David Supergirl
Heart of Empire by Bryan Talbot
Xenozoic Tales by Mark Schultz
Rick Veitch/ Bryan Talbot Teknophage
John Ostrander Martian Manhunter

Sure I might well have trimmed some of those by asking &quot;was it really a run?&quot;... but most would have survived that test, and all pass the &quot;favorite test&quot; with flying colors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect a lot of my top 10, if I'd joined earlier enough to vote, would be outside the top 100. Because I'd have probably included stuff like:-</p>
<p>Time Twisters by Alan Moore<br />
Peter David Supergirl<br />
Heart of Empire by Bryan Talbot<br />
Xenozoic Tales by Mark Schultz<br />
Rick Veitch/ Bryan Talbot Teknophage<br />
John Ostrander Martian Manhunter</p>
<p>Sure I might well have trimmed some of those by asking "was it really a run?"... but most would have survived that test, and all pass the "favorite test" with flying colors.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 06:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorendiac, I just finished &#039;Showcase Presents Sgt Rock&#039; which has over 500 pages of mainly Kubert stuff. Frankly it was brillant and I considered it for my list. I&#039;ve got Showcase Presents Enemy Ace up in my Attic on my waiting to read pile so hopefully they are enough to get you started (they are black and white of course but being raised on UK black and white comics I don&#039;t have a beef with that and frankly I like me a bit of Kubert in black and White I think it highlights his art at its best (also see Steve Yeowell amongst many others).

This leads me nicely to a few of the books that didn&#039;t make my list but got close and I think deserve some love. If you&#039;re looking for some classic war stories check out the reprints of Pat Mills and Joe Colquhoun&#039;s Charley&#039;s War there&#039;s 4 hardcover volumes for about $15 each out already and a fifth coming. Its a 70s and 80s classic widely regarded by many that have read it as the best  war comic ever. Powerful stuff with some of the best war art, at least on a par with Kubert, around.

I&#039;ll stick with out British black and White material and rattle on about Pat Mill&#039;s Nemesis, it starts out with art by Kev O&#039;Neil (if you think his work on LoEG is good what until you see this stuff, when his imagination was unbound (well aside from the blue pen of editior Tharg as the stories go!)) for the first 3 books and later by Bryan Talbot. In many ways it defines what 2000ad was all about. A manic satire about a totaliarian human race in the far future abusing Aliens until the rebellian starts. Credo.

Like you some Alan Moore well one story that didn&#039;t make the list but got close to mine is the &#039;Space Opera&#039; Halo Jones. Along side art from Ian Gibson he created one of the greatest female comic characters around. Now if only he&#039;d learn to make up with people so we could see book 4!

Back to things that Kubert does almost as well as anyone a western that got very close. Jean-Michel Charlier and Jean &#039;Moebius&#039; Giraud&#039;s Blueberry. Particularly the 5 books that make up the &#039;Confederate Gold&#039; story line. There is a black and white collection of the whole story out there somewhere but in this case I&#039;d say its worth tracking down the colour versions from the late 80s.

Someones already mentioned Flaming Carrot which only didn&#039;t make my list (I suspect) cos I only own about half the run and so I couldn&#039;t make a complete judgement but was probably well worth a place. Likewise Tales of Beanworld and Tick got close from the leftfield.

Anyway again enough of my rambling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorendiac, I just finished 'Showcase Presents Sgt Rock' which has over 500 pages of mainly Kubert stuff. Frankly it was brillant and I considered it for my list. I've got Showcase Presents Enemy Ace up in my Attic on my waiting to read pile so hopefully they are enough to get you started (they are black and white of course but being raised on UK black and white comics I don't have a beef with that and frankly I like me a bit of Kubert in black and White I think it highlights his art at its best (also see Steve Yeowell amongst many others).</p>
<p>This leads me nicely to a few of the books that didn't make my list but got close and I think deserve some love. If you're looking for some classic war stories check out the reprints of Pat Mills and Joe Colquhoun's Charley's War there's 4 hardcover volumes for about $15 each out already and a fifth coming. Its a 70s and 80s classic widely regarded by many that have read it as the best  war comic ever. Powerful stuff with some of the best war art, at least on a par with Kubert, around.</p>
<p>I'll stick with out British black and White material and rattle on about Pat Mill's Nemesis, it starts out with art by Kev O'Neil (if you think his work on LoEG is good what until you see this stuff, when his imagination was unbound (well aside from the blue pen of editior Tharg as the stories go!)) for the first 3 books and later by Bryan Talbot. In many ways it defines what 2000ad was all about. A manic satire about a totaliarian human race in the far future abusing Aliens until the rebellian starts. Credo.</p>
<p>Like you some Alan Moore well one story that didn't make the list but got close to mine is the 'Space Opera' Halo Jones. Along side art from Ian Gibson he created one of the greatest female comic characters around. Now if only he'd learn to make up with people so we could see book 4!</p>
<p>Back to things that Kubert does almost as well as anyone a western that got very close. Jean-Michel Charlier and Jean 'Moebius' Giraud's Blueberry. Particularly the 5 books that make up the 'Confederate Gold' story line. There is a black and white collection of the whole story out there somewhere but in this case I'd say its worth tracking down the colour versions from the late 80s.</p>
<p>Someones already mentioned Flaming Carrot which only didn't make my list (I suspect) cos I only own about half the run and so I couldn't make a complete judgement but was probably well worth a place. Likewise Tales of Beanworld and Tick got close from the leftfield.</p>
<p>Anyway again enough of my rambling!</p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 05:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think &lt;I&gt;anything&lt;/I&gt; from Malibu&#039;s old UItraverse group of titles made the Top 100. That&#039;s a real shame; there were at least 3 or 4 runs from the Ultraverse which I seriously considered voting for . . . although, in the spirit of full disclosure, I&#039;ll mention that none of them actually made it onto my ballot when I had to cull the herd until I had just 10 picks on it. 

I&#039;ve seen people in here saying Englehart deserved better -- well, one of his Ultraverse runs (on &quot;The Strangers&quot;) was on my list of &quot;serious contenders&quot; for a vote, but didn&#039;t make it. And then there was his &quot;Night Man&quot; run coming out at the same time . . .

Of course, one problem the Ultraverse titles suffer from is that they started in 1993 . . . and right around the end of 1994, it was announced that Marvel was buying out Malibu, and after that, the Ultraverse went into a tailspin and eventually everything got cancelled. (One story seems to be that Malibu had offered the creators better deals, regarding guaranteed percentages of profits and so forth, than Marvel would have offered them; hence Marvel prefers to not publish any of those characters nowadays, rather than take the painful step of actually honoring the details spelled out in the contracts which were part and parcel of their purchase of Malibu.) At any rate, Marvel has never, to the best of my knowledge, lifted a finger to try reprinting any of that mid-90s stuff in TPB volumes for the benefit of any potential readers who missed it all the first time around!

So if you were actually buying a selection of Ultraverse titles back around 1993/1994 as I was, then you may remember them fondly. But if you weren&#039;t -- if, for example, you only started seriously collecting comic books within the last 10 years -- then you may never have had anything Ultraverse-related catch your eye in the local comics shop as &quot;Just In.&quot; 

I figure some of the things I actually voted for in my &quot;Top 10&quot; suffer from similar problems -- if something was published a long time ago, and if it&#039;s never been seriously collected in nice fat TPBs to help the rising generation see what they&#039;ve been missing, then it&#039;s not likely to get many votes in a contest where we all vote on our favorite runs from our collections, is it?

P.S. On a similar note, I&#039;ve read very, very little of the old &quot;Sergeant Rock&quot; comics referred to at the top of this thread. (Same applies to Kubert&#039;s work on &quot;Tarzan&quot; and &quot;Enemy Ace.&quot;) So it&#039;s not so much that I &quot;forgot&quot; about  Easy Company (and Kubert&#039;s other work) as it is that I&#039;ve had precious little chance to ever get &lt;I&gt;acquainted&lt;/I&gt; with that material in the first place! Has any of Kubert&#039;s work on any of those characters ever been reprinted in convenient TPB volumes, by the way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think <i>anything</i> from Malibu's old UItraverse group of titles made the Top 100. That's a real shame; there were at least 3 or 4 runs from the Ultraverse which I seriously considered voting for . . . although, in the spirit of full disclosure, I'll mention that none of them actually made it onto my ballot when I had to cull the herd until I had just 10 picks on it. </p>
<p>I've seen people in here saying Englehart deserved better -- well, one of his Ultraverse runs (on "The Strangers") was on my list of "serious contenders" for a vote, but didn't make it. And then there was his "Night Man" run coming out at the same time . . .</p>
<p>Of course, one problem the Ultraverse titles suffer from is that they started in 1993 . . . and right around the end of 1994, it was announced that Marvel was buying out Malibu, and after that, the Ultraverse went into a tailspin and eventually everything got cancelled. (One story seems to be that Malibu had offered the creators better deals, regarding guaranteed percentages of profits and so forth, than Marvel would have offered them; hence Marvel prefers to not publish any of those characters nowadays, rather than take the painful step of actually honoring the details spelled out in the contracts which were part and parcel of their purchase of Malibu.) At any rate, Marvel has never, to the best of my knowledge, lifted a finger to try reprinting any of that mid-90s stuff in TPB volumes for the benefit of any potential readers who missed it all the first time around!</p>
<p>So if you were actually buying a selection of Ultraverse titles back around 1993/1994 as I was, then you may remember them fondly. But if you weren't -- if, for example, you only started seriously collecting comic books within the last 10 years -- then you may never have had anything Ultraverse-related catch your eye in the local comics shop as "Just In." </p>
<p>I figure some of the things I actually voted for in my "Top 10" suffer from similar problems -- if something was published a long time ago, and if it's never been seriously collected in nice fat TPBs to help the rising generation see what they've been missing, then it's not likely to get many votes in a contest where we all vote on our favorite runs from our collections, is it?</p>
<p>P.S. On a similar note, I've read very, very little of the old "Sergeant Rock" comics referred to at the top of this thread. (Same applies to Kubert's work on "Tarzan" and "Enemy Ace.") So it's not so much that I "forgot" about  Easy Company (and Kubert's other work) as it is that I've had precious little chance to ever get <i>acquainted</i> with that material in the first place! Has any of Kubert's work on any of those characters ever been reprinted in convenient TPB volumes, by the way?</p>
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		<title>By: Ã‡teve!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ã‡teve!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 05:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;â€œJon Sable, Freelanceâ€ is another great 80s independent title that may have been hurt by fizzling out in the end, but issues 1-29 are among my most re-read comics.&quot;

I have them all as comic books, but i think that this is available in trades or hardcover as we speak. I was surprised to see Mike Grell make the jump to Image in the 90&#039;s, but i loved his Shaman&#039;s Tears series.

&quot;I loved how he pushed the envelope in a way like Moore did with Swamp Thing. I donâ€™t know if the comparison of quality totally holds up nowadays, but at the time they were both seemed to be pretty fresh and cool takes on the mix of superheroes and supernatural.&quot;

Sterg, I think that Garth Ennis (to name only one) readers would have a blast with Elementals. Willingham&#039;s scripts, situations and dialogues have a very &quot;in your face&quot; style, not to speak of the various religious icons present in the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"â€œJon Sable, Freelanceâ€ is another great 80s independent title that may have been hurt by fizzling out in the end, but issues 1-29 are among my most re-read comics."</p>
<p>I have them all as comic books, but i think that this is available in trades or hardcover as we speak. I was surprised to see Mike Grell make the jump to Image in the 90's, but i loved his Shaman's Tears series.</p>
<p>"I loved how he pushed the envelope in a way like Moore did with Swamp Thing. I donâ€™t know if the comparison of quality totally holds up nowadays, but at the time they were both seemed to be pretty fresh and cool takes on the mix of superheroes and supernatural."</p>
<p>Sterg, I think that Garth Ennis (to name only one) readers would have a blast with Elementals. Willingham's scripts, situations and dialogues have a very "in your face" style, not to speak of the various religious icons present in the series.</p>
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		<title>By: nacho</title>
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		<dc:creator>nacho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 02:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too was surprised that Hama&#039;s GIJoe was not on the list.  It spawned an entire generation of comic readers.  It was the greatest &quot;gateway comic&quot; in the history of the medium.  I had it as my #1 run, so I was really stunned that it didn&#039;t make the list at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too was surprised that Hama's GIJoe was not on the list.  It spawned an entire generation of comic readers.  It was the greatest "gateway comic" in the history of the medium.  I had it as my #1 run, so I was really stunned that it didn't make the list at all.</p>
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		<title>By: JKline</title>
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		<dc:creator>JKline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 01:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Brian: Doom Patrol, 7 Soldiers, Invisibles.  The Filth wasn&#039;t for me, but it is concentrated Morrison.  The covers of that series are the highlight.

As for my favourites that didn&#039;t make it: Quantum &amp; Woody and GL: Mosaic.  I actually hated GL: Mosaic when it was coming out (though I was often fascinated with it anyway).  I reread it when I got old enough to understand it, and wow.  Way ahead of its time.  It would be ahead of its time if it were being published now.  As far as I know, it&#039;s the only non-Vertigo but Vertigo-in-spirit comic that was firmly set in the DCU.  (Come to think of it, Hitman, Swamp Thing, and Animal Man, all of which I haven&#039;t read, probably qualify as well).

Also, Colin, you convinced me to hunt down some Judge Dredd.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Brian: Doom Patrol, 7 Soldiers, Invisibles.  The Filth wasn't for me, but it is concentrated Morrison.  The covers of that series are the highlight.</p>
<p>As for my favourites that didn't make it: Quantum &amp; Woody and GL: Mosaic.  I actually hated GL: Mosaic when it was coming out (though I was often fascinated with it anyway).  I reread it when I got old enough to understand it, and wow.  Way ahead of its time.  It would be ahead of its time if it were being published now.  As far as I know, it's the only non-Vertigo but Vertigo-in-spirit comic that was firmly set in the DCU.  (Come to think of it, Hitman, Swamp Thing, and Animal Man, all of which I haven't read, probably qualify as well).</p>
<p>Also, Colin, you convinced me to hunt down some Judge Dredd.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: fit2print</title>
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		<dc:creator>fit2print</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 01:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add my two (more) cents to the comics equivalent of Billboard&#039;s &quot;Bubbling Under the Hot 100&quot; ...  

Denny O&#039;Neil &amp; Neal Adams&#039; Deadman
Mike Baron&#039;s Nexus &amp; Badger
Steve Englehart&#039;s Coyote
Tim Truman&#039;s Scout
and ... dare I add? ... Jim Shooter&#039;s Starbrand

All are unlikely to rank on anyone&#039;s list of the best runs ever but (like many of the other titles above), I&#039;d say each (yes, even Starbrand) deserves honorable mention and a place on the list of All-Time Unsung / Overlooked / Underrated Runs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add my two (more) cents to the comics equivalent of Billboard's "Bubbling Under the Hot 100" ...  </p>
<p>Denny O'Neil &amp; Neal Adams' Deadman<br />
Mike Baron's Nexus &amp; Badger<br />
Steve Englehart's Coyote<br />
Tim Truman's Scout<br />
and ... dare I add? ... Jim Shooter's Starbrand</p>
<p>All are unlikely to rank on anyone's list of the best runs ever but (like many of the other titles above), I'd say each (yes, even Starbrand) deserves honorable mention and a place on the list of All-Time Unsung / Overlooked / Underrated Runs.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jon Sable, Freelance&quot; is another great 80s independent title that may have been hurt by fizzling out in the end, but issues 1-29 are among my most re-read comics.  In some of the other talk-backs, debate is raging about dialog.  As far as I&#039;m concerned JSF had the best dialog of any comic ever.  Grell is a master of both bad-ass quips or flirtatious banter.  I&#039;m completely baffled as to why he never became one of those million-dollar-a-week Hollywood re-write men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Jon Sable, Freelance" is another great 80s independent title that may have been hurt by fizzling out in the end, but issues 1-29 are among my most re-read comics.  In some of the other talk-backs, debate is raging about dialog.  As far as I'm concerned JSF had the best dialog of any comic ever.  Grell is a master of both bad-ass quips or flirtatious banter.  I'm completely baffled as to why he never became one of those million-dollar-a-week Hollywood re-write men.</p>
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		<title>By: sterg</title>
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		<dc:creator>sterg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also want to send some love out to the Barr and Davis Detective run. It was too short, and it ended prematurely, but it depicted a great version of Batman that paid homage to the campy fun stuff while also maintaining its &quot;street cred&quot; as a dark knight book. I loved how they went through and did Batman&#039;s classic foes. Plus, it was one of the few times Jason Todd was portrayed decently as a character and actually made sense as Robin. 
It&#039;s a shame those issues aren&#039;t collected somewhere. It&#039;d be thin, but it&#039;d a great read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also want to send some love out to the Barr and Davis Detective run. It was too short, and it ended prematurely, but it depicted a great version of Batman that paid homage to the campy fun stuff while also maintaining its "street cred" as a dark knight book. I loved how they went through and did Batman's classic foes. Plus, it was one of the few times Jason Todd was portrayed decently as a character and actually made sense as Robin.<br />
It's a shame those issues aren't collected somewhere. It'd be thin, but it'd a great read.</p>
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