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Snark Free Corner for 5/6

Welcome to the latest installment of your breath of snark free air!

Enjoy!

SNARK FREE DEBATE

If you were able to change ONE part of Iron Man’s history, what would you change?

Would you bring Happy Hogan back? Would you give Tony Stark his secret identity back? Would you make Tony Stark no longer head of SHIELD? Would you bring back Obadiah Stane? Would you bring back James Rhodes? Would you bring Mrs. Arbogast back? Would you make Clytemnestra Erwin a good guy again?

Remember, no snark!

COVER THEME GAME

As always, here is the game. I show three covers. They all have something in common, whether it be a character, a trait all three characters share, locale, creator, SOMEthing. And it isn’t something obvious like “They all have prices!” “They all have logos!” “They all feature a man!” etc.

In addition, please note that you must have some familiarity with comic book history to correctly guess these comics. You cannot guess the connective theme just by looking at the covers solely, you must have some knowledge beyond just the covers.

A cool point to the first person to figure it out!

Good luck!

NOTE: While obscure, the connective theme for this week really amuses me, probably more so than it should, but since it is so amusing to me, I am going to give TWO cool points to the first person to figure it out!!

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SNARK FREE CHALLENGE

Invent a new animal-themed villain for Spider-Man.

THE COVER GAME

This week’s game is as follows…

Find me a cover featuring the Phantom Stranger hanging out with a group of more than four heroes.

Here is an example (which you can’t use!)…

Remember, only one cover per commenter!

WHO IS IT?

Remember, tell me who it is and what number clue gave it away!

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3. This character is a Doctor.
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4. This character has a suit of armor, too.
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5. This character first appeared in the same comic as Hank Pym (while not being Hank Pym, natch).

Who is it?

Well, that’s it for this installment of Snark Free Corner.

Hope you had fun!

34 Comments

Patrick Hamilton

May 7, 2008 at 4:15 am

For the cover theme game, I’m going to guess it is some kind of body-sharing/switching theme. Captain Marvel used to switch time with Rick Jones, Firehawk and Firestorm were linked after Infinite Crisis (IIRC), and Jericho’s power is of course to possess people’s bodies.

SanctumSanctorumComix

May 7, 2008 at 5:24 am

Cover theme game:

The all feature bad costumes!

– Captain Mar-Vell’s original green & white is not as bad as the others, but still… (not going to even mention the deal with the Supreme Intelligence.)

– Firehawk’s a mess (some may say that so is Firestorm, but I really like that costume)

– Jericho. (nuff said) I love Raven, but when you look at it as a realistically drawn image as that is, she’s a woman running around in a prom dress with a cowl. (But I DO love Raven.)

OK… obviously this isn’t the real theme.
But it could be.

;-)

~P~
P-TOR

SanctumSanctorumComix

May 7, 2008 at 5:48 am

oh, wait… this is supposed to be “snark free”… damn.
my bad.

You caught me before my morning tea.

:-(

~P~
P-TOR

I used to play the Marvel role-playing game a lot. When I did, I liked to come up with animal/insect themed characters. Here are two of my favorite:

Cricket
This was a female who only had powers when she shrank, just like Wasp. When she did, she had greatly increased agility, leaping ability, and sonic generation. She originally had limited gliding with nearly vestigal wings, but when it was pointed out that grashoppers had the wings, she lost them.

The Badger
No, this wasn’t a copy of the indie comic – I’ve never read it. The Badger is an American Indian. He inherited the mystical badger medalion from his father which allowed him to call on the Spirit Of The Badger, his family’s totem animal. He morphed into a humanoid badger, gaining a thick hide, a really nasty attitude, near bezerker fruy when fighting, and long claws whoch were not only good as weapons but allowed him to tunnel through anything softer than rock/concrete weth pretty decent speed.

My interest in Iron Man ended around the time that the second Armor Wars story finished, but if I could change anything about the prior storylines, I wouldn’t have killed of the original Spymaster. The Spymaster character was a neat concept for a villian, and Micheline wrote him well as highly effective, dangerous, and funny…kinda like a precursor to how Deadpool has been written.

I’m not sure I understand the clues for the “Who Is It?” question. When you say the character first appeared in the same comic as Hank Pym, do you mean the same comic Pym first appeared in, or that the villian first appeared in a comic that Hank Pym also appeared in? If it’s the latter, there’s probably a ton, but I’ll go with the first Black Knight (who died fighting Iron Man) and the Porcupine (who was once one of Justin Hammer’s cronies).

Cover challenge, Justice League Adventures: http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=213877&zoom=4

And I’m thinking cover theme connection has to do with one of the featured characters being dead but having communicated with another character mentally.

Have a good day.
John Cage

On the Iron Man side of things, I would humbly suggest that the teenage Tony Stark storyline. It’s like yelling “Bill Buckner!” to a Red Sox fan.

Depends on what you mean by ‘change’. If it means what part of Iron Man’s history would I like to get rid of well, hell yeah, it has to be Teenaged Tony Stark. But if it’s what element of his past would you like brought back then I’d say either the secret identity or Bethany Cade, who was my favourite of Stark’s girlfriends.

That’s easy– you just reprinted this one:

http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=41601&zoom=4

Maybe it’s because the movie is still on my mind, or I’m misremembering things, but I’d change it so that as soon as Tony gets back from being held captive, he decides to stop manufacturing weapons/munitions. IIRC (and it’s been awhile, so I may not be) it took years before they decided that maybe Stark Industries shouldn’t make weapons anymore. Thematically it makes a lot of sense to have Tony so affected by his captivity/first hand experiences to swear off using his company to sell weapons immediately.

I don’t mind his identity being public, or even being the head of SHIELD. Its used to good effect in Brubaker’s Cap.

Otherwise, I’d bring back Happy. Or Bethany.

Randall majors

May 7, 2008 at 9:04 am

Probally not the theme you intended but all three covers feature heroes who’s costume changed.

Captain Marvel went to his Red/blue one
Firestorm went to his les famous ostrander era look
and raven sported the dark blue/black look for a while

Please to be removing the teenaged Tony Stark from human memory k thx

I’d undo pretty much every storyline in Iron Man where he was operating the suit remotely. If Tony’s not in the armour, then there was nothing really dramatic about the book, and I could take it or leave it.

Oh, good point about the remote controlled suits-that never really sat right with me. He (or someone) needs to be IN the suit.

I’d nix Extremis or whatever so we can have Tony’s armor fit in the attaché case again.

All of those issues were Huey Lewis & the News Songs. Captain Marvel #16 was “Back in Time” and Firestorm #17 was “Hip to Be Square”.

Is the “Who is it?” Doctor Doom? It seems too obvious, but it’s the only thing I could think of.

Or we could bring back the “turn off the chestplate and he dies” weakness.

Ignore what I said, I did not read the fifth question.

Brian just showed us this one:

http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=41601&zoom=4

As for the “Who Is It?”, if you’re being really tricky, you could say “Dr. Strange.” Of course, in order to do that, you have to bend almost every one of those hints into a pretzel.

For Iron Man, I agree with the Extremis answer. It gives him too many extra powers, including regenerating his foot recently.

Who is it?
Nathan Garret – Black Knight II

Who is it?
Nathan Garret – Black Knight II
If it is Huey Lewis, that is definitely worth 2 cool points.

For Spider-Man, how about a 40-something villainess known only as the Cougar?

Jeff Ryan…I think Red Sox Nation forgave Buckner, even though it was Calvin Schraldi and Bob Stanley that screwed the Sox over in Game 6. How about teen Tony : Iron Man fans :: “STEVE BARTMAN!!!!” : Cubs fans?

Here’s the thing about Iron Man. I kinda see where Joe Q’s coming from when he says IM’s the most interesting character in the Marvel Universe right now. Even though I haven’t enjoyed all of the portrayals of him in recent years, it feels like there’s a lot that’s up in the air now for Tony, and that spells tremendous potential. And since we’ve got Fraction on the new book, I think it’s ALL going to be fuel for that majestic fire. So I wouldn’t change anything at all.

Okay, if I’d change anything… it would be that Civil War wouldn’t have disrupted the Knauf’s initial direction for their Iron Man book. So either I wish they’d have given a little more time between the start of their book and Civil War, or that they’d waited to start their story until after the heat from CW had died down some. ‘Cause I really loved their take on Tony as someone who had such a powerful ambition to change the world and really felt like he alone could do it, and didn’t feel accountable to anyone… and then suddenly he’s spearheading a project that makes superheroes subject to government regulations. Didn’t make sense at all. And then because of CW and other events that followed they really had to shift gears so many times, I lost all interest in the book.

I say nix the Extremis suit for Iron Man.

Hey, there they are! Sorry for the double cover post. My posts didn’t appear for several hours.

Who is it?
How about Stingray, aka Dr. Newell?

fourthworlder

May 7, 2008 at 8:09 pm

I did my own Spider-Man issue for English in grade nine or so where I had him fight the Amazing Hamster Man, a buck-toothed classmate of Peter Parker’s named Chuck who got bitten by a radioactive hamster. It gave him a rodentish face, tremendous strength, super speed and a hamster sense that tingled when wood chips were near.
He went straight to Coney Island and stole the ferris wheel, by running in center of it. Spider-Man lured him to a sawmill where he was distracted by a pile of wood-chips and sat down to chew until the cops arrived.
I think I got a B.

Brian Cronin

May 7, 2008 at 8:56 pm

How about Stingray, aka Dr. Newell

Yep!

Was Garrett an actual doctor? If so, then yeah, he’d count.

The Crossing has to go. By extension, that eliminates Teen Tony, as well.

I’d also probably get rid of his faking his death and not telling Rhodey about it. It didn’t fit their friendship and was only done to create an excuse for Rhodey to be pissed and leave the book to do the War Machine spinoff.

Cover theme: All feature characters that were killed with swords (Supreme Intelligence, Firestorm, and Jericho)

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