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	<title>Comments on: Top 158 Comic Book Runs #107-103</title>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Blue Devil net any points?</description>
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		<title>By: choirsoftheeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>choirsoftheeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tied with 107?</description>
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		<title>By: Alvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I&#039;m taking this to heart, what about 108?</description>
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		<title>By: Rusty Priske</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty Priske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I am REALLY sorry I didn&#039;t vote.

Not having the Perez Wonder Woman on the list is a crime. (NOt having it in at least the Top 50 is a crime...not having it on the list AT ALL is beyond that)

Oh well, no voting means I can&#039;t complain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I am REALLY sorry I didn&#8217;t vote.</p>
<p>Not having the Perez Wonder Woman on the list is a crime. (NOt having it in at least the Top 50 is a crime&#8230;not having it on the list AT ALL is beyond that)</p>
<p>Oh well, no voting means I can&#8217;t complain.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot Kane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot Kane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waid &amp; Garney&#039;s first Cap run was great at the time, but I honestly don&#039;t feel it holds up so well now, after a recent re-reading.  I&#039;d still put it as my second favourite Cap run ever, behind Gru&#039;s, but that&#039;s not saying a great deal.  Most Cap writers... well, you can insert an &#039;R&#039; into &#039;Cap&#039; to get their true worth... :D

I&#039;m honestly surprised Ex Machina didn&#039;t place a lot higher.  It&#039;s superb.  Probably the best comic dealing with politics I&#039;ve ever read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waid &amp; Garney&#8217;s first Cap run was great at the time, but I honestly don&#8217;t feel it holds up so well now, after a recent re-reading.  I&#8217;d still put it as my second favourite Cap run ever, behind Gru&#8217;s, but that&#8217;s not saying a great deal.  Most Cap writers&#8230; well, you can insert an &#8216;R&#8217; into &#8216;Cap&#8217; to get their true worth&#8230; <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m honestly surprised Ex Machina didn&#8217;t place a lot higher.  It&#8217;s superb.  Probably the best comic dealing with politics I&#8217;ve ever read.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The opening six-issue origin story arc was at least three issues too long.&quot;
I&#039;m unsure how cutting down the number in half would have worked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The opening six-issue origin story arc was at least three issues too long.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m unsure how cutting down the number in half would have worked.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing Rene has neglected to mention is how many are currently being published.  Below is that list, 14% of the top 100 are still being published today.

149 (tie). Warren Ellis and Ben Templesmith&#039;s Fell - 52 points (1 first place vote)
#1-current (#9)

153 (tie). Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips&#039; Criminal â€“ 50 points
Criminal #1-10, Criminal 2 #1-current (#2)

130 (tie). Robert Kirkman&#039;s Walking Dead â€“ 65 points
Walking Dead #1-current (#49)

134 (tie). Brian Michael Bendis&#039; Avengers â€“ 62 points (1 first place vote)
Avengers #500-503, New Avengers #1-current (#40), plus some Annuals and I guess Mighty Avengers #1-current (#13)

122. Peter David&#039;s X-Factor (Second run) â€“ 72 points
X-Factor #1-current (#30)

111. Ed Brubaker/Matt Fraction&#039;s Iron Fist â€“ 83 points
The Immortal Iron Fist #1-current (#14)

106. Brian K. Vaughan and Tony Harris&#039; Ex Machina â€“ 92 points (1 first place vote)
Ex Machina #1-current (#36)

100 (tie). Chris Ware&#039;s Acme Novelty Library â€“ 95 points (2 first place votes)
Acme Novelty Library #1-current (#18) 

97 (tie). Stan Sakai&#039;s Usagi Yojimbo â€“ 98 points (2 first place votes)
Usagi Yojimbo #1-38 (Fantagraphics), #1-16 (Mirage), #1-current (109) (Dark Horse)

79. Robert Kirkman&#039;s Invincible â€“ 115 points (1 first place vote)
Invincible #1-current (#49)

70. Brian Michael Bendis and Michael Avon Oeming&#039;s Powers â€“ 134 points (1 first place vote)
Powers Vol. 1 #1-37, Powers Vol. 2 #1-current (#27)

62. Brian Azzarello and Eduardo Risso&#039;s 100 Bullets â€“ 150 points (3 first place votes)
100 Bullets #1-current (#89)

53. Geoff Johns&#039; Green Lantern â€“ 174 points (1 first place vote)
Green Lantern #1-current (#29)

53. Mike Baron and Steve Rude&#039;s Nexus â€“ 174 points (4 first place votes)
Nexus #1-current (#101, I believe)

52. Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely&#039;s All Star Supermanâ€“ 176 points (3 first place votes)
#1-current (#10)

48. Geoff Johns&#039; JSA â€“ 192 points (1 first place votes)
JSA #6-77, 81, Justice Society of America #1-current (#14)

38. Joss Whedon and John Cassaday&#039;s Astonishing X-Men â€“ 229 points (2 first place votes)
Astonishing X-Men #1-current (#24)

22. Bill Willingham&#039;s Fables â€“ 428 points (6 first place votes)
Fables #1-current (#71)

24. Garth Ennis&#039; Punisher â€“ 389 points (5 first place votes)
The Punisher #1-12, The Punisher #1-37, Punisher MAX #1-current (#56) plus Punisher: Born #1-4 and a bunch of one-shots

18. Warren Ellis and John Cassaday&#039;s Planetary - 493 points (7 first place votes)
Planetary #1-current (#26)

17. Ed Brubaker&#039;s Captain America â€“ 504 points (4 first place votes)
Captain America #1-current (#37)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing Rene has neglected to mention is how many are currently being published.  Below is that list, 14% of the top 100 are still being published today.</p>
<p>149 (tie). Warren Ellis and Ben Templesmith&#8217;s Fell &#8211; 52 points (1 first place vote)<br />
#1-current (#9)</p>
<p>153 (tie). Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips&#8217; Criminal â€“ 50 points<br />
Criminal #1-10, Criminal 2 #1-current (#2)</p>
<p>130 (tie). Robert Kirkman&#8217;s Walking Dead â€“ 65 points<br />
Walking Dead #1-current (#49)</p>
<p>134 (tie). Brian Michael Bendis&#8217; Avengers â€“ 62 points (1 first place vote)<br />
Avengers #500-503, New Avengers #1-current (#40), plus some Annuals and I guess Mighty Avengers #1-current (#13)</p>
<p>122. Peter David&#8217;s X-Factor (Second run) â€“ 72 points<br />
X-Factor #1-current (#30)</p>
<p>111. Ed Brubaker/Matt Fraction&#8217;s Iron Fist â€“ 83 points<br />
The Immortal Iron Fist #1-current (#14)</p>
<p>106. Brian K. Vaughan and Tony Harris&#8217; Ex Machina â€“ 92 points (1 first place vote)<br />
Ex Machina #1-current (#36)</p>
<p>100 (tie). Chris Ware&#8217;s Acme Novelty Library â€“ 95 points (2 first place votes)<br />
Acme Novelty Library #1-current (#18) </p>
<p>97 (tie). Stan Sakai&#8217;s Usagi Yojimbo â€“ 98 points (2 first place votes)<br />
Usagi Yojimbo #1-38 (Fantagraphics), #1-16 (Mirage), #1-current (109) (Dark Horse)</p>
<p>79. Robert Kirkman&#8217;s Invincible â€“ 115 points (1 first place vote)<br />
Invincible #1-current (#49)</p>
<p>70. Brian Michael Bendis and Michael Avon Oeming&#8217;s Powers â€“ 134 points (1 first place vote)<br />
Powers Vol. 1 #1-37, Powers Vol. 2 #1-current (#27)</p>
<p>62. Brian Azzarello and Eduardo Risso&#8217;s 100 Bullets â€“ 150 points (3 first place votes)<br />
100 Bullets #1-current (#89)</p>
<p>53. Geoff Johns&#8217; Green Lantern â€“ 174 points (1 first place vote)<br />
Green Lantern #1-current (#29)</p>
<p>53. Mike Baron and Steve Rude&#8217;s Nexus â€“ 174 points (4 first place votes)<br />
Nexus #1-current (#101, I believe)</p>
<p>52. Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely&#8217;s All Star Supermanâ€“ 176 points (3 first place votes)<br />
#1-current (#10)</p>
<p>48. Geoff Johns&#8217; JSA â€“ 192 points (1 first place votes)<br />
JSA #6-77, 81, Justice Society of America #1-current (#14)</p>
<p>38. Joss Whedon and John Cassaday&#8217;s Astonishing X-Men â€“ 229 points (2 first place votes)<br />
Astonishing X-Men #1-current (#24)</p>
<p>22. Bill Willingham&#8217;s Fables â€“ 428 points (6 first place votes)<br />
Fables #1-current (#71)</p>
<p>24. Garth Ennis&#8217; Punisher â€“ 389 points (5 first place votes)<br />
The Punisher #1-12, The Punisher #1-37, Punisher MAX #1-current (#56) plus Punisher: Born #1-4 and a bunch of one-shots</p>
<p>18. Warren Ellis and John Cassaday&#8217;s Planetary &#8211; 493 points (7 first place votes)<br />
Planetary #1-current (#26)</p>
<p>17. Ed Brubaker&#8217;s Captain America â€“ 504 points (4 first place votes)<br />
Captain America #1-current (#37)</p>
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		<title>By: Grico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think Manhunter should have been at least on the top 150. It would have been on my top 10 list if I wasn&#039;t doing comprehensive exams during the voting period and thus didn&#039;t vote. Maybe Chase as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think Manhunter should have been at least on the top 150. It would have been on my top 10 list if I wasn&#8217;t doing comprehensive exams during the voting period and thus didn&#8217;t vote. Maybe Chase as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard the Poet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard the Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Except that, yâ€™know, Sekowsky drew it. Too bad.&quot;

Needless to say, I thought Sekowsky was a pretty fine artist. The way he laid out his story - with characters sometimes exploding out of their boxes - was dynamic, and his figures were always well drawn. 

Diana never looked better than when she was in her floral purple mini-dress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Except that, yâ€™know, Sekowsky drew it. Too bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>Needless to say, I thought Sekowsky was a pretty fine artist. The way he laid out his story &#8211; with characters sometimes exploding out of their boxes &#8211; was dynamic, and his figures were always well drawn. </p>
<p>Diana never looked better than when she was in her floral purple mini-dress.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;I greatly enjoyed Slottâ€™s She-Hulk, especially the early issues w/the Bobillo art-he made Jen cute-as-a-button! 

Same here. I have no idea why so many people objected ot Bobillo&#039;s art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;I greatly enjoyed Slottâ€™s She-Hulk, especially the early issues w/the Bobillo art-he made Jen cute-as-a-button! </p>
<p>Same here. I have no idea why so many people objected ot Bobillo&#8217;s art.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Obviously the art was nice, but as re-boots go it wasnâ€™t a patch on Mike Sekowskyâ€™s kung-fu Wonder Woman of the â€˜Sixties. Now that should have made the list.

Except that, y&#039;know, Sekowsky drew it. Too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Obviously the art was nice, but as re-boots go it wasnâ€™t a patch on Mike Sekowskyâ€™s kung-fu Wonder Woman of the â€˜Sixties. Now that should have made the list.</p>
<p>Except that, y&#8217;know, Sekowsky drew it. Too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually &lt;I&gt;very surprised&lt;/I&gt; at myself when I looked at my ballot after I had finally narrowed it down to 10, and realized that &lt;I&gt;nothing&lt;/I&gt; by Claremont had made it through the final cut! Neither had anything by Byrne, for that matter, although the Claremont/Byrne collaboration on X-Men had certainly been on the list of &quot;serious contenders&quot; that I drafted out before I started the culling process. Each of those guys had also been represented by at least one or two other items on that list of worthy candidates . . . but somehow those runs all failed to go the distance when I was asking myself, &quot;How many times have I actually gone back and eagerly reread that material in recent years?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually <i>very surprised</i> at myself when I looked at my ballot after I had finally narrowed it down to 10, and realized that <i>nothing</i> by Claremont had made it through the final cut! Neither had anything by Byrne, for that matter, although the Claremont/Byrne collaboration on X-Men had certainly been on the list of &#8220;serious contenders&#8221; that I drafted out before I started the culling process. Each of those guys had also been represented by at least one or two other items on that list of worthy candidates . . . but somehow those runs all failed to go the distance when I was asking myself, &#8220;How many times have I actually gone back and eagerly reread that material in recent years?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Teebore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teebore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I greatly enjoyed Slott&#039;s She-Hulk, especially the early issues w/the Bobillo art-he made Jen cute-as-a-button! 

I should really great around to reading those Ex Machina trades I have lying around...

...and someone should really get around to putting some Dreadstar trades out, so I can read those. Pretty soon I&#039;m just going to give up and buy the back issues. There just aren&#039;t enough good space operas. 

As for Lee/Claremont on X-Men I think there were just too many other Claremont/artistic partner runs that people liked more. For me, it was Claremont/Romita Jr, for many others it was Claremont/Silvestri; even if someone was going to put a few X-Men runs on their list, I still think Claremont/Lee would get overlooked, especially since it was so disjointed and broken up by crossovers and fill-ins that it feels less like a cohesive &quot;run.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I greatly enjoyed Slott&#8217;s She-Hulk, especially the early issues w/the Bobillo art-he made Jen cute-as-a-button! </p>
<p>I should really great around to reading those Ex Machina trades I have lying around&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and someone should really get around to putting some Dreadstar trades out, so I can read those. Pretty soon I&#8217;m just going to give up and buy the back issues. There just aren&#8217;t enough good space operas. </p>
<p>As for Lee/Claremont on X-Men I think there were just too many other Claremont/artistic partner runs that people liked more. For me, it was Claremont/Romita Jr, for many others it was Claremont/Silvestri; even if someone was going to put a few X-Men runs on their list, I still think Claremont/Lee would get overlooked, especially since it was so disjointed and broken up by crossovers and fill-ins that it feels less like a cohesive &#8220;run.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Burk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Burk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops. Somehow didn&#039;t post my last line.

I think Jim Lee is just overrated, but that&#039;s hardly a big sin in this industry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops. Somehow didn&#8217;t post my last line.</p>
<p>I think Jim Lee is just overrated, but that&#8217;s hardly a big sin in this industry!</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Burk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Burk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
The lack of love for both Frank Miller and Jim Lee is pretty easy to figure out: â€œAll-Star Batman &amp; Robinâ€.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you have it the wrong way around. All-Star Batman and Robin is the latest fruit of a diseased vine that goes back all the way to Sin City and probably before that, not the thing that has tainted all impressions.

Somewhere in the 1990s, Frank Miller became blunter, angrier and less interesting. I think Sin City is visually dynamic and spectacularly shallow; 300 even more so. And, in spite of a brilliant opening, Dark Knight Strikes Back was so bad it would have be now quarter-binned had it been done by a lesser-known artist. 

I find the comics work he&#039;s done over the past 15 years shallow, crass and mean-spirited. All-Star Batman and Robin is just the latest in a long line.

I think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
The lack of love for both Frank Miller and Jim Lee is pretty easy to figure out: â€œAll-Star Batman &amp; Robinâ€.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you have it the wrong way around. All-Star Batman and Robin is the latest fruit of a diseased vine that goes back all the way to Sin City and probably before that, not the thing that has tainted all impressions.</p>
<p>Somewhere in the 1990s, Frank Miller became blunter, angrier and less interesting. I think Sin City is visually dynamic and spectacularly shallow; 300 even more so. And, in spite of a brilliant opening, Dark Knight Strikes Back was so bad it would have be now quarter-binned had it been done by a lesser-known artist. </p>
<p>I find the comics work he&#8217;s done over the past 15 years shallow, crass and mean-spirited. All-Star Batman and Robin is just the latest in a long line.</p>
<p>I think</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll vote for the awful Silver Age Wonder Woman when Hades becomes a skating rink (which, if you believe Dante, it already is).

Perez&#039;s run was a brilliant superhero story; the first dozen or so issues, in particular, are flawless, in my opinion, as both origin and a &quot;coming of age&quot; type drama.  It&#039;s unquestionably the most acclaimed run on Wonder Woman&#039;s title ever (in some respects, I think Rucka&#039;s was &lt;i&gt;better&lt;/i&gt;, but he never got to finish his run, so it will always be incomplete).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll vote for the awful Silver Age Wonder Woman when Hades becomes a skating rink (which, if you believe Dante, it already is).</p>
<p>Perez&#8217;s run was a brilliant superhero story; the first dozen or so issues, in particular, are flawless, in my opinion, as both origin and a &#8220;coming of age&#8221; type drama.  It&#8217;s unquestionably the most acclaimed run on Wonder Woman&#8217;s title ever (in some respects, I think Rucka&#8217;s was <i>better</i>, but he never got to finish his run, so it will always be incomplete).</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er...Perez&#039;s WW not very good? Kung-Fu Wonder Woman? Fire in their belly?

Well, I suppose it takes all kinds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er&#8230;Perez&#8217;s WW not very good? Kung-Fu Wonder Woman? Fire in their belly?</p>
<p>Well, I suppose it takes all kinds.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard the Poet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard the Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to stick my neck out and say that the reason Perez&#039;s Wonder Woman isn&#039;t on the list is because it wasn&#039;t very good. 

Perez&#039;s Wonder Woman was really too wet to carry an on-going series. Wide-eyed, innocent girls with bodies of women, make a suitable protagonists for Harlequin novels, but they don&#039;t fit quite so well into the superhero genre. Superheroes need a bit of fire in their belly.

Perez (&amp; various scripters) compounded this elementary mistake by making the stories incredibly long-winded - the opening six-issue origin story arc was at least three issues too long.  

Obviously the art was nice, but as re-boots go it wasn&#039;t a patch on Mike Sekowsky&#039;s kung-fu Wonder Woman of the &#039;Sixties. Now that should have made the list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to stick my neck out and say that the reason Perez&#8217;s Wonder Woman isn&#8217;t on the list is because it wasn&#8217;t very good. </p>
<p>Perez&#8217;s Wonder Woman was really too wet to carry an on-going series. Wide-eyed, innocent girls with bodies of women, make a suitable protagonists for Harlequin novels, but they don&#8217;t fit quite so well into the superhero genre. Superheroes need a bit of fire in their belly.</p>
<p>Perez (&amp; various scripters) compounded this elementary mistake by making the stories incredibly long-winded &#8211; the opening six-issue origin story arc was at least three issues too long.  </p>
<p>Obviously the art was nice, but as re-boots go it wasn&#8217;t a patch on Mike Sekowsky&#8217;s kung-fu Wonder Woman of the &#8216;Sixties. Now that should have made the list.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 11:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see some people arguing that ASBAR is so hated by various fans that the negative feelings toward it may have spilled over onto other, even much earlier, works by Frank Miller and/or Jim Lee, causing them to get less votes than they supposedly deserved.

I won&#039;t claim to read anyone else&#039;s minds regarding why they did or didn&#039;t vote for the Claremont/Lee run on the X-Men, for instance, but I can speak for myself on this point.

First, I really don&#039;t think virulent hatred for ASBAR had anything to do with the final composition of my ballot, because I&#039;ve never even read a single issue of ASBAR! I&#039;ve heard enough negative things about it to convince me I wouldn&#039;t enjoy spending my money on it, so I simply don&#039;t. But by the same token, I don&#039;t cry myself to sleep at night thinking about how awful it is, since I&#039;ve never truly been exposed to it! (In fact, I think I had forgotten Jim Lee was the artist on ASBAR until I was reminded in this thread!) 

I still ended up voting for one of Miller&#039;s Daredevil runs -- I don&#039;t remember thinking about ASBAR at all at the time I was trying to evaluate where some of his work from the 70s and 80s stood in my affections. On the other hand, I never even considered voting for any of the &quot;Sin City&quot; material I&#039;ve read, because I simply don&#039;t like it enough to go back and reread it regularly, which was the key question I kept asking myself when I was trying to narrow down a longer list of &quot;favorites&quot; to a short ballot of just &quot;10 Top Favorites.&quot; 

The Claremont/Lee X-Men run fell by the wayside because of that same key question -- I don&#039;t remember when the last time was that I bothered to pull those back issues out of my collection and reread them all, straight through; therefore, they obviously don&#039;t have their hooks in me as one of my &quot;Top 10 Favorites.&quot; I believe I did give the run serious consideration for a minute, though, without fussing over any negative feelings about anything Lee may have done more recently. (By the same token, I voted for other favorite runs by other creators who &lt;I&gt;later&lt;/I&gt; went on to do things which I found disappointing instead of entertaining!) 

Someone mentioned how the anti-ASBAR backlash might even have damaged the Loeb/Lee &quot;Hush&quot; run in the voting. I never even toyed with the idea of voting for &quot;Hush.&quot; Why should I? The most fun I got out of it was writing a scathing parody to highlight its plot holes and such, four years ago. I doubt I&#039;ve bothered to reread it since then. Since I obviously had never seen or heard of ASBAR in early 2004, when I was working on the parody because of my disgust at how &quot;Hush&quot; fell so far short of my expectations for it, I don&#039;t think the negative buzz online about ASBAR had anything to do with my failure to cast a vote for &quot;Hush.&quot; (And for what it&#039;s worth, I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever said anything bad about Jim Lee&#039;s artwork on &quot;Hush&quot; -- it&#039;s the &lt;I&gt;lazy writing&lt;/I&gt; I objected to!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see some people arguing that ASBAR is so hated by various fans that the negative feelings toward it may have spilled over onto other, even much earlier, works by Frank Miller and/or Jim Lee, causing them to get less votes than they supposedly deserved.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t claim to read anyone else&#8217;s minds regarding why they did or didn&#8217;t vote for the Claremont/Lee run on the X-Men, for instance, but I can speak for myself on this point.</p>
<p>First, I really don&#8217;t think virulent hatred for ASBAR had anything to do with the final composition of my ballot, because I&#8217;ve never even read a single issue of ASBAR! I&#8217;ve heard enough negative things about it to convince me I wouldn&#8217;t enjoy spending my money on it, so I simply don&#8217;t. But by the same token, I don&#8217;t cry myself to sleep at night thinking about how awful it is, since I&#8217;ve never truly been exposed to it! (In fact, I think I had forgotten Jim Lee was the artist on ASBAR until I was reminded in this thread!) </p>
<p>I still ended up voting for one of Miller&#8217;s Daredevil runs &#8212; I don&#8217;t remember thinking about ASBAR at all at the time I was trying to evaluate where some of his work from the 70s and 80s stood in my affections. On the other hand, I never even considered voting for any of the &#8220;Sin City&#8221; material I&#8217;ve read, because I simply don&#8217;t like it enough to go back and reread it regularly, which was the key question I kept asking myself when I was trying to narrow down a longer list of &#8220;favorites&#8221; to a short ballot of just &#8220;10 Top Favorites.&#8221; </p>
<p>The Claremont/Lee X-Men run fell by the wayside because of that same key question &#8212; I don&#8217;t remember when the last time was that I bothered to pull those back issues out of my collection and reread them all, straight through; therefore, they obviously don&#8217;t have their hooks in me as one of my &#8220;Top 10 Favorites.&#8221; I believe I did give the run serious consideration for a minute, though, without fussing over any negative feelings about anything Lee may have done more recently. (By the same token, I voted for other favorite runs by other creators who <i>later</i> went on to do things which I found disappointing instead of entertaining!) </p>
<p>Someone mentioned how the anti-ASBAR backlash might even have damaged the Loeb/Lee &#8220;Hush&#8221; run in the voting. I never even toyed with the idea of voting for &#8220;Hush.&#8221; Why should I? The most fun I got out of it was writing a scathing parody to highlight its plot holes and such, four years ago. I doubt I&#8217;ve bothered to reread it since then. Since I obviously had never seen or heard of ASBAR in early 2004, when I was working on the parody because of my disgust at how &#8220;Hush&#8221; fell so far short of my expectations for it, I don&#8217;t think the negative buzz online about ASBAR had anything to do with my failure to cast a vote for &#8220;Hush.&#8221; (And for what it&#8217;s worth, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever said anything bad about Jim Lee&#8217;s artwork on &#8220;Hush&#8221; &#8212; it&#8217;s the <i>lazy writing</i> I objected to!)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 07:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think Wonder Woman is popular, but not within message-board-time-spending comic-book-reading community.&lt;/blockquote&gt; I think you don&#039;t need the first part.

&quot;not within the comic-book-reading community&quot; is more accurate.</description>
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<p> I think you don&#8217;t need the first part.</p>
<p>&#8220;not within the comic-book-reading community&#8221; is more accurate.</p>
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