Comments on: Snark Free Corner for 5/20

By: acespot

acespot — Fri, 23 May 2008 00:39:58 +0000

Damn.
I got here too late.
And for ONCE! I knew the answer to this.
Which, of course, is "hounds".
Hellhound, Rachel the Hound, and Bat-Hound.
Goddammit.

By: wwk5d

wwk5d — Thu, 22 May 2008 04:13:29 +0000

C. Adams, noone (myself included) would knock the Biernbaums run for being too fun; if anything, it was too dark as well. My favorite Legion would be the Levitz/Giffen/Lightle/LaRoque run.

Yes, Rachael was a 'hound' in her era. Like other hounds, she was tortured and used to locate and capture other mutants.

Actually, Hellhound reminded me of Amalgams's Darlclaw...mostly the mouthpiece.

By: FunkyGreenJerusalem

FunkyGreenJerusalem — Thu, 22 May 2008 00:37:46 +0000

I like the Waid and Kitson run the best! Admittedly, it's the only Legion I've read, but it's probably the only legion I will read - if this Johns series takes it's place, I'm out... which would be a shame, as I think the Waid and Kitson brand of Legion is excellent, and can't figure out why everybody doesn't read it.

By: Greg Geren

Greg Geren — Wed, 21 May 2008 21:40:44 +0000

And the Colorist / Co-Writer on that Legion series was Tom McCraw.

That is all...

By: buttler

buttler — Wed, 21 May 2008 20:09:26 +0000

Hmm, my comments aren't showing up again, but I'll try another one anyway: For the life of me, I can't tell DC's Hellhound and Marvel's Mad Dog apart.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Wed, 21 May 2008 18:51:54 +0000

Remember, Guy is not just a gym coach - he almost made it to the pros playing football, so that's why I hoped it'd be a fair fight - Guy's overall sports skills (and yes, trash talking) versus Clint's shooting ability (plus the fact that both of them would likely cheat ).

By: Thok

Thok — Wed, 21 May 2008 18:10:21 +0000

Given that Hawkeye is slightly taller than Guy (6'3" versus 6'1" or so) and that he's a better shooter, in a game without powers Hawkeye should win. Of course, let them use trick arrows and the ring, and all bets are off.

By: Craig B.

Craig B. — Wed, 21 May 2008 17:35:16 +0000

For the cover theme game, I was going to say "cats and dogs," since you've got Catwoman, Shadowcat (at the top left of the second cover) and Ace, the Bat-hound in the third, but I think DanLarkin's got it with "hounds." Wasn't Rachel Summers called a "hellhound" or something like that in the future where she came from? I didn't know the character attacking Catwoman in the first cover was also called Hellhound, so that clinches it for me. And Guy Gardner - he's a gym teacher, for heaven's sake! Just because you can fight with a sword and shoot arrows doesn't mean you're good at every athletic pursuit! Then again, if Hawkeye's a Skrull, he could make himself taller and have a real advantage!

By: C. Adams

C. Adams — Wed, 21 May 2008 17:31:04 +0000

The knock against the McGraw/Peyer/Stern (not to mention the Biernbaums) run on Legion/Legionnaires was that it was too fun. TOO FUN!!! Let that sink in. People didn't want fun stories, they wanted dark sci-fi. I cant believe I used to hear that about this title. I enjoyed reading comics especially when Moy was on the art. It was a breath of fresh air in the age of darker comic books. Go back and read it and see if you don't have a good time reading the series.

It wouldn't work in today's DC where it seems like killing off characters is the way that attention is received.

By: John Trumbull

John Trumbull — Wed, 21 May 2008 16:09:21 +0000

I never read much of the DnA Legion, so I'll have to go with the McGraw/Peyer/Stern Legion out of default. For my money, though, the best Legion ever was the Paul Levitz/Steve Lightle Legion.

I say Hawkeye for the B-ball game. He's got more drive, and I have a gut feeling he's got more skills.

By: Stephane Savoie

Stephane Savoie — Wed, 21 May 2008 15:50:01 +0000

DnA Legion, for sure. While I hated the Ra's Al Ghul story (and concept), the McGraw/Peyer/Stern years had too many horrendous moments, from Sneckie to Monstress.

By: buttler

buttler — Wed, 21 May 2008 15:12:50 +0000

Cover game: World's Finest #17. http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/worlds-finest/17-1.jpg

By: M Bloom

M Bloom — Wed, 21 May 2008 15:03:06 +0000

I have to go with the McGraw/Peyer/Stern Legion. That was the first version of the Legion I ever read, sifting through about the first year and a half's worth of issues that my uncle had in his comic collection one summer. I absolutely fell in love with the book's writing and art (you're not the only Moy fan, Greg Geren). I haven't really read much of the DnA Legion yet, but I doubt it will overtake the initial reboot run in my heart.

By: Rob M

Rob M — Wed, 21 May 2008 14:41:25 +0000

Laughing Batman: Batman #40 http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=5870&zoom=4

I'd go with the McGraw/Peyer Legion, but I generally prefer the old-school style.

By: Greg Geren

Greg Geren — Wed, 21 May 2008 14:18:20 +0000

I would probably choose the Waid / Peyer McCraw Legion over DnA, but it would be pretty close.

This version of the Legion was a true Reboot, and even though it did not follow the established Pre-Zero-Hour chronology exactly, it was definitely parallel, including bits for the long-term fan (me!) as well as throwing in unexpected curves at times. I also may be the only person that admits to liking Jeff Moy's artwork, but he had a very solid performance across the entire series.

DnA / Coipel told some very interesting stories, and picked up the interest and excitement after the previous run had lost it's steam. I really liked Chris Batista's run towards the end.

By: Graeme Burk

Graeme Burk — Wed, 21 May 2008 14:02:13 +0000

Hate to use the obvious for the cover challenge but...

http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=32073&zoom=4

That said, I don't think there's any proof that Batman's actually laughing in the sample-- if you're looking at broad grins, I can find dozens of examples.

By: avengers63

avengers63 — Wed, 21 May 2008 13:56:27 +0000

I was going to throw up a guess for Black Cat. I don't know about the "posessed" qualifier, but she meets the rest of the items.

I agree that Clint would beat Guy. PE teacher or not, Clint is the better athlete and unmatched with accuracy.

By: Teebore

Teebore — Wed, 21 May 2008 13:44:51 +0000

Wasn't Guy a phys ed teacher at one point? Even still, I have to go with Hawkeye. Guy would be fouling up a storm (and probably have a better grasp of the fundamentals) but he just couldn't compete with all the shots Hawkeye would make.

By: Scott MacIver

Scott MacIver — Wed, 21 May 2008 13:36:00 +0000

Hawkeye would win. He'd take out his hearing aid, depriving Guy of his best skill, the trash talking.

After that, Hawkeye would just nail jumper after jumper. It'd be over fast.

By: wwk5d

wwk5d — Wed, 21 May 2008 13:07:31 +0000

I don't know if either series had better art, I'd say both had art that was appropriate for the tone of the book at the time. And while DnA had a good run, I wouldn't say it was my favorite...