Comments on: Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed #156

By: Supergeek47

Supergeek47 — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:36:50 +0000

I jacked off to those pussycat pics.

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By: The Fantome

The Fantome — Tue, 27 May 2008 20:53:20 +0000

All this Black Panther name talk got me thinking about Iron Man's affiliation with the Black Sabbath song of the same name. I once read an interview with Geezer Butler, who explained that Ozzy gave himself the nickname "Iron Man" when he was a boy. (Since he was born in 1948, this more than likely pre-dated Marvel's Iron Man by several years). When Butler was saddled with the envious task of composing lyrics for Iron Man on the Paranoid album, he was informed that there could be no applied-reference to Marvel's character. Thus "Iron Man" of Black Sabbath fame may have predated Tony Stark, but it appears the time-travelling hero "turned to steel" was a character specifically created by Butler so Marvel would have little legal fodder in the case of a lawsuit. Considering Butler's Iron Man is a pretty cool concept of itself (a time-traveller who became a steel statue after an encounter with a great magnetic field, turning mad from being conscious during his immobile state and becoming a crazed serial killer after the paralysis "wore off"), wouldn't it be cool to have both Iron Men meet in comics form?

By: The Fantome

The Fantome — Tue, 27 May 2008 20:30:20 +0000

Hey Mike. I can remember several of the later features starring Alice The Goon. The early episodes escape me:

Goon Hollywood
Goon Balloon
Goon Native
Here Today, Goon Tomorrow
Alice in Blunderland
Jeep Thrills
Tanks A Lot
Wreck Room
Basic Training
Troop Therapy
Snow Foolin'
Mission Improbably
Rocky Rolls
Private Secretaries

BTW, although fairly common knowledge, I didn't read anyone here referencing how T'Challa once changed his name from "The Black Panther" to "The Black Leopard" in order to disavow any affiliation with the Black Panther organization. The name change was short-lived and terribly silly, considering The Black Panther is the cerimonial title for the leader of The Panther tribe, not simply a chosen superhero identity.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Tue, 27 May 2008 19:56:34 +0000

I get what you're saying, Kenny, but whenever a term predates another use of the term, I don't think it is unreasonable to wonder if the group got their name from the first popular usage of the term.

I mean, who would have thought that the Weathermen would have their name be based on a Dylan lyric? I think them using a comic character as their inspiration is believable - that is not to say that I think they DID, as I think they likely did NOT. But I wouldn't be shocked if they did (surprised, yes - shocked, no).

By: Apodaca

Apodaca — Tue, 27 May 2008 18:34:06 +0000

Just when I thought T.'s posts couldn't get any more ridiculous...

By: Steven Rowe

Steven Rowe — Tue, 27 May 2008 17:23:41 +0000

At the time of Pussycat, every men's magazine had to have a comic to compete with Playboy. Pussycat was Goodman's version. Goodman in the late 1960s had his men's magazines and his men's sweat magazines (men's sweat were those with the violent covers, often with Nazis and brands, etc). It's my understanding that all of the stories in Pussycat were reprints - and that there are many more out there. Al Hartely was working on a Pussycat story when he got his religious conversion - and while he didnt consider it obscene, he did consider it questionable. when Goodman started his new line of comics in 1975, he also did men;'s magazines (dunno if it had a comic or not) - the comics (fandom calls them Atlas-seaboard) was gone fairly shortly, but the men's magazine still remains!

By: Kenny

Kenny — Tue, 27 May 2008 14:53:26 +0000

Bombarden,

No, the Black Panther party did not take it's name from the comic book character. While the Black Panther Party with Huey Newton and Bobby Seale was not named the Black Panthers when the character was created, there were other Black Panther parties in the country at the time. Most people credit the name to Stokely Carmichael who used a Black Panther logo in a voter registration drive in Alabama.

Not everything originates with comic books, you know.

By: acidhag

acidhag — Tue, 27 May 2008 11:06:51 +0000

People still use the word "methinks"?

By: Atom! at Brave New World

Atom! at Brave New World — Mon, 26 May 2008 21:58:10 +0000

I knew reading comics would make you rich!

Hear that actors? Always read comics when you're on set.

By: Mike Blake

Mike Blake — Mon, 26 May 2008 21:40:27 +0000

FGJ wondered:
> Are you sure that the Goonâ€™s took their name from Pop-eye?
> I thought it was from a term they used in the war - first Iâ€™ve ever
> heard of a pop-eye connection.

Not denying the word existed beforehand, but Google and you find even the BBC goes with the Popeye connection, and that the term baffled the BBC execs:

"Their unique comedy style was first heard on the airwaves on 28 May 1951 on the programme Crazy People featuring The Goons.

"Within a year the title had changed to The Goon Show.

"Milligan is said to have picked the word goon out of a Popeye comic and started using it as derogatory term for people he saw as idiots.

"The word baffled the aging establishment at the BBC, with one executive memorably demanding to know about the 'Go On Show'. "

By: FunkyGreenJerusalem

FunkyGreenJerusalem — Mon, 26 May 2008 02:09:55 +0000

Are you sure that the Goon's took their name from Pop-eye?

I thought it was from a term they used in the war - first I've ever heard of a pop-eye connection.
(Granted, I'm not the most knowing on the Goons, but I have read a bit about them).

By: Mike Blake

Mike Blake — Mon, 26 May 2008 01:54:12 +0000

Biggles wrote:
"Spike Milligan was on record repeatly during his life giving credit for the use of the word Goon in The Goon Show coming from Popeye (The cartoon more than the comic strip I think) rather from being familiar with it has an English word."

I would think more from the comic strip more than the cartoon; can anybody remember (my old friend The FanTome, perhaps?) any Popeye cartoons with Alice the Goon in them?

--Mike Blake

By: Bombardem

Bombardem — Sun, 25 May 2008 23:36:40 +0000

All that tells me is that what I said was correct, not answer my questions.

By: Eric

Eric — Sun, 25 May 2008 22:21:54 +0000

I believe it's Seth Rogen, not Seth Rogan.

By: Armitage

Armitage — Sun, 25 May 2008 19:19:20 +0000

"Iâ€™m sure this one has been asked and answered, but I cant find anything on it. Was the Lee/Kirby Black Panther responsible for the Black Panthers Party name? I know the symbol of a Black Panther was used by black activists prior to Tâ€™Challaâ€™s appearance, but I dont know how widespread it was, and if L/K stole it from them, or what."

It's in #41.

By: Bombardem

Bombardem — Sun, 25 May 2008 08:41:33 +0000

I'm sure this one has been asked and answered, but I cant find anything on it. Was the Lee/Kirby Black Panther responsible for the Black Panthers Party name? I know the symbol of a Black Panther was used by black activists prior to T'Challa's appearance, but I dont know how widespread it was, and if L/K stole it from them, or what.

Has anyone ever picked Stan Lee's brain about his memories of that, and Marvels attempt to change T'Challas name to The Black Leopard in FF #112 in order to distance themselves from the radicals?

It seems like it would be an interesting tidbit to ask Stan about.

By: Alex R

Alex R — Sat, 24 May 2008 20:22:01 +0000

I found this DVD of the old Ben Stiller Show and Judd Apatow worked on it. He' s not actually in the show much, but appears as 'Foxy the Network Fox' who mocks the very network the show is on... and it was cancelled.

Good Stuff.

I haven't seen any of those films.

By: Craig

Craig — Sat, 24 May 2008 15:53:47 +0000

Pussycat reminds me of Codename: Knockout.