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	<title>Comments on: Steve Gerber, the Son of Satan, and Evil</title>
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		<title>By: Lue Lyron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lue Lyron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 11:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I&#039;ve read and enjoyed this at least three or four times (and still haven&#039;t read the issues themselves).  I just wanted to add that I too contributed, much later than you, and in fact have another one based around Ruth &amp; Amber coming up.  Wanna see?

http://ceaseill.blogspot.com/2010/10/backyard-of-mind.html

http://ceaseill.blogspot.com/2010/10/swamp-of-indomitable-will.html  Pardon my horn tootin&#039;.  Honk!  Cecil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;ve read and enjoyed this at least three or four times (and still haven&#8217;t read the issues themselves).  I just wanted to add that I too contributed, much later than you, and in fact have another one based around Ruth &amp; Amber coming up.  Wanna see?</p>
<p><a href="http://ceaseill.blogspot.com/2010/10/backyard-of-mind.html" rel="nofollow">http://ceaseill.blogspot.com/2010/10/backyard-of-mind.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://ceaseill.blogspot.com/2010/10/swamp-of-indomitable-will.html" rel="nofollow">http://ceaseill.blogspot.com/2010/10/swamp-of-indomitable-will.html</a>  Pardon my horn tootin&#8217;.  Honk!  Cecil</p>
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		<title>By: C Lue Disharoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Lue Disharoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 15:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, the letters page is still the first thing I read anytime I pick up an old comic book.  You added so much personality to this discussion with your letters choices---and what could be better than having an original letter writer pop in?  (I mean, now that Steve himself is gone).  Must come back to this when I&#039;ve slept; it&#039;s generally worth stating that existence requires thought beyond good and evil, but evil has here been defined in such a manner that considering such a viewpoint in any way is good or growth related.  I happen to have some Satanists in the back ground of the comic I&#039;m writing and drawing in time for this year&#039;s Comic Con (I&#039;ll be found in Marina Park behind the ConventionCenter), as an ex-Satanist is all-too-curious to find out if he&#039;s still being watched, after nearly dying in an accident that requires his face be reconstructed.  It will cover a cross-section of the ground in your essay, though since it is based on a real life occurrence it already has an identity of its own.  Nonetheless, with considerable humor, you&#039;ve dissected this series, which I&#039;ve yet to read, in a way that speaks to just why particular series resonated with adults now and then.  Of course, you point up the very trashy element that always made comics a little risque and gawdy and quite frankly, marks the depths of their actual appeal.  But Steven Grant wrote about that so eloquently in his final Permanent Damage columns, I&#039;d simply refer people to that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, the letters page is still the first thing I read anytime I pick up an old comic book.  You added so much personality to this discussion with your letters choices&#8212;and what could be better than having an original letter writer pop in?  (I mean, now that Steve himself is gone).  Must come back to this when I&#8217;ve slept; it&#8217;s generally worth stating that existence requires thought beyond good and evil, but evil has here been defined in such a manner that considering such a viewpoint in any way is good or growth related.  I happen to have some Satanists in the back ground of the comic I&#8217;m writing and drawing in time for this year&#8217;s Comic Con (I&#8217;ll be found in Marina Park behind the ConventionCenter), as an ex-Satanist is all-too-curious to find out if he&#8217;s still being watched, after nearly dying in an accident that requires his face be reconstructed.  It will cover a cross-section of the ground in your essay, though since it is based on a real life occurrence it already has an identity of its own.  Nonetheless, with considerable humor, you&#8217;ve dissected this series, which I&#8217;ve yet to read, in a way that speaks to just why particular series resonated with adults now and then.  Of course, you point up the very trashy element that always made comics a little risque and gawdy and quite frankly, marks the depths of their actual appeal.  But Steven Grant wrote about that so eloquently in his final Permanent Damage columns, I&#8217;d simply refer people to that!</p>
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		<title>By: C Lue Disharoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Lue Disharoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 13:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah HAH!  Now I see Plok&#039;s comments.  Well---better late than Never!!! And this would be two MORE years late...though I wasn&#039;t online much if at all in 2006.  That&#039;s my story and I&#039;m stickin&#039; to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah HAH!  Now I see Plok&#8217;s comments.  Well&#8212;better late than Never!!! And this would be two MORE years late&#8230;though I wasn&#8217;t online much if at all in 2006.  That&#8217;s my story and I&#8217;m stickin&#8217; to it.</p>
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		<title>By: C Lue Disharoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Lue Disharoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 12:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, you think any of the rest of these are considered open?  I noted there are a few issues of Daredevil hanging loose, there...perhaps a rumination on the body of the Defenders run?  I just wanted you to know how much I enjoyed reading about Evil and thought your take on Son of Satan was certainly thorough and insightful enough to fit.  Jim Roeg&#039;s analysis just blew me away, didn&#039;t it you?  More later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, you think any of the rest of these are considered open?  I noted there are a few issues of Daredevil hanging loose, there&#8230;perhaps a rumination on the body of the Defenders run?  I just wanted you to know how much I enjoyed reading about Evil and thought your take on Son of Satan was certainly thorough and insightful enough to fit.  Jim Roeg&#8217;s analysis just blew me away, didn&#8217;t it you?  More later.</p>
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		<title>By: ZEITGEIST / Five Kinds Of Serial Comic Books I Prefer To Buy Right Now Over New Ones</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZEITGEIST / Five Kinds Of Serial Comic Books I Prefer To Buy Right Now Over New Ones</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] It&#039;s easy to do this kind of thing for any creator that interests you by googling blog posts like this one or by using the tailored search engine at comics.org.    2. 1980s Indy Comics Cribbed From A List [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rab definition</title>
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		<dc:creator>rab definition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Steve project. I??™m um??¦. a couple years late. (Note from today: A couple years and a fhttp://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/05/27/steve-gerber-the-son-of-satan-and-evil/Password: Stereotype! - MSN IndiaAnd then came the Big-B who gave anger a new definition on screen. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Steve project. I??™m um??¦. a couple years late. (Note from today: A couple years and a fhttp://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/05/27/steve-gerber-the-son-of-satan-and-evil/Password: Stereotype! &#8211; MSN IndiaAnd then came the Big-B who gave anger a new definition on screen. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: plok</title>
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		<dc:creator>plok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also I would contend that Howard and Man-Thing and Omega are not marginalized, but true outsiders.  I mean Manny doesn&#039;t even have a &lt;i&gt;mind&lt;/i&gt;.

And of course we just don&#039;t know about poor James-Michael.  He might actually be an outsider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also I would contend that Howard and Man-Thing and Omega are not marginalized, but true outsiders.  I mean Manny doesn&#8217;t even have a <i>mind</i>.</p>
<p>And of course we just don&#8217;t know about poor James-Michael.  He might actually be an outsider.</p>
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		<title>By: plok</title>
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		<dc:creator>plok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, a couple of things:

1.  There&#039;s no more actual arcs of Gerber Defenders left -- my friend Ed foolishly called Headmen/Nebulon when it all started, and I&#039;m sticking with that...although if anyone would like to share with him in a Photoshop way, I&#039;m sure he wouldn&#039;t say no.

2.  So happy with you right now.

3.  An outstanding piece of the Gerber puzzle is the Iron Man Annual with Man-Thing and the Molecule Man -- that hasn&#039;t been touched, and is permitted.  I wanted Jim Roeg to do it, but then he had a baby.  You want some gender-politics stuff, it&#039;s in there.

4.  Anything primarily Man-Thing or Howard connected could be done, but better be good -- because I see Howard and Man-Thing, and their storytelling environs and associated characters, more as Virgils than as Dantes...maybe sometimes Beatrixes...if you know what I mean.  Now that would be a &lt;i&gt;fascinating&lt;/i&gt; essay, on how Howard and Man-Thing and Jennifer Kale occasionally intrude, to guide things along.  I am so open to that.

5.  If anyone wants to do something on &quot;Val Goes To Jail&quot;, that would be wonderful -- and they could certainly mix it up with Dave Kraft&#039;s &quot;Val Goes To College&quot;, if they wanted to.

6.  Foolkiller counts as a Man-Thing associated character, I&#039;m afraid.

7.  By all means, anyone revisit anything already written, if you&#039;ve got something to say!  Race in the Defenders -- let&#039;s have it!

8.  Shanna, Subby, Cap -- all wide open.  And if I&#039;m not mistaken Mark probably knows a couple more that I don&#039;t.

9.  I&#039;ll never run out of enthusiasm for this project.  Remind me to ask you if I can do a guest-post on my Gerber Revelation.

10.  As always, I need to throw in the datum that I think my fellow essayists agree with me on the matter of YOU HAVE TO READ THAT JIM ROEG MTIO ONE!!!  Really, Bloggers, it&#039;s good stuff.  Find it in the link labelled &quot;Two Earth-Clotted Hands&quot;, it&#039;s pretty amazing.  Go, GO!  Read it.  You&#039;ll thank me, and Mark.  It&#039;s a winner.

Back me up on that Mark, Brian...that one&#039;s some pretty amazing blogging, don&#039;t you think?  I think Jim goes crazy on that one, it&#039;s absolutely my favourite.  If memory serves, Sean, RAB, and Thomas agree.

Cheers!  Drinking now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, a couple of things:</p>
<p>1.  There&#8217;s no more actual arcs of Gerber Defenders left &#8212; my friend Ed foolishly called Headmen/Nebulon when it all started, and I&#8217;m sticking with that&#8230;although if anyone would like to share with him in a Photoshop way, I&#8217;m sure he wouldn&#8217;t say no.</p>
<p>2.  So happy with you right now.</p>
<p>3.  An outstanding piece of the Gerber puzzle is the Iron Man Annual with Man-Thing and the Molecule Man &#8212; that hasn&#8217;t been touched, and is permitted.  I wanted Jim Roeg to do it, but then he had a baby.  You want some gender-politics stuff, it&#8217;s in there.</p>
<p>4.  Anything primarily Man-Thing or Howard connected could be done, but better be good &#8212; because I see Howard and Man-Thing, and their storytelling environs and associated characters, more as Virgils than as Dantes&#8230;maybe sometimes Beatrixes&#8230;if you know what I mean.  Now that would be a <i>fascinating</i> essay, on how Howard and Man-Thing and Jennifer Kale occasionally intrude, to guide things along.  I am so open to that.</p>
<p>5.  If anyone wants to do something on &#8220;Val Goes To Jail&#8221;, that would be wonderful &#8212; and they could certainly mix it up with Dave Kraft&#8217;s &#8220;Val Goes To College&#8221;, if they wanted to.</p>
<p>6.  Foolkiller counts as a Man-Thing associated character, I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
<p>7.  By all means, anyone revisit anything already written, if you&#8217;ve got something to say!  Race in the Defenders &#8212; let&#8217;s have it!</p>
<p>8.  Shanna, Subby, Cap &#8212; all wide open.  And if I&#8217;m not mistaken Mark probably knows a couple more that I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>9.  I&#8217;ll never run out of enthusiasm for this project.  Remind me to ask you if I can do a guest-post on my Gerber Revelation.</p>
<p>10.  As always, I need to throw in the datum that I think my fellow essayists agree with me on the matter of YOU HAVE TO READ THAT JIM ROEG MTIO ONE!!!  Really, Bloggers, it&#8217;s good stuff.  Find it in the link labelled &#8220;Two Earth-Clotted Hands&#8221;, it&#8217;s pretty amazing.  Go, GO!  Read it.  You&#8217;ll thank me, and Mark.  It&#8217;s a winner.</p>
<p>Back me up on that Mark, Brian&#8230;that one&#8217;s some pretty amazing blogging, don&#8217;t you think?  I think Jim goes crazy on that one, it&#8217;s absolutely my favourite.  If memory serves, Sean, RAB, and Thomas agree.</p>
<p>Cheers!  Drinking now.</p>
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		<title>By: PÃ³l Rua</title>
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		<dc:creator>PÃ³l Rua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 08:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wowzers, Mark. That is an incredible essay.</description>
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 06:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, Thanks.,..   :)  

Couple more points:

&lt;b&gt;(A)&lt;/b&gt;I added a little more about the project in the first paragraph.  

And there&#039;s a lot of stuff that hasn&#039;t been touched:

Howard and the Man-Thing are off limits, but if anyone wants to write about:

Race in the early issues of the Defenders,

Shanna the She-Devil

Sub-Mariner 

Gerber&#039;s handful of issues of Captain America

Or, geez, Foolkller (my favorite single Steve G. work)

Those haven&#039;t been touched at all!  (And there&#039;s plenty more to cover in Omega, the Son of Satan, Defenders, and Two-In-One.)

&lt;b&gt;B&lt;/b&gt;I really DO like the idea of the character , and completely -  My problems were completely with the execution.  I really should read the Ellis take on the characters.  And I liked the last three storylines, even the EXORCIST one, quite a bit.  

&lt;b&gt;C&lt;/b&gt;  I dunno.  It FEELS like Gerber&#039;s personal philosophy was a huge part of the book.  And I do see the &quot;marganalized man&#039; thang Plok mentions, which is a strong theme in Howard the Duck, Omega...  And, especially Man-Thing.  

I think the reason Steve&#039;s beliefs are so hard to sum up is that HE never really came to hard-and-fast conclusions.  I always felt he was sharing what he had learned, but he was aware that there was A LOT of stuff he didn&#039;t know.  Like, all his writing was phrased like &quot;Here I am at the moment... But what I think now might not be what I think tomorrow.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, Thanks.,..   <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Couple more points:</p>
<p><b>(A)</b>I added a little more about the project in the first paragraph.  </p>
<p>And there&#8217;s a lot of stuff that hasn&#8217;t been touched:</p>
<p>Howard and the Man-Thing are off limits, but if anyone wants to write about:</p>
<p>Race in the early issues of the Defenders,</p>
<p>Shanna the She-Devil</p>
<p>Sub-Mariner </p>
<p>Gerber&#8217;s handful of issues of Captain America</p>
<p>Or, geez, Foolkller (my favorite single Steve G. work)</p>
<p>Those haven&#8217;t been touched at all!  (And there&#8217;s plenty more to cover in Omega, the Son of Satan, Defenders, and Two-In-One.)</p>
<p><b>B</b>I really DO like the idea of the character , and completely &#8211;  My problems were completely with the execution.  I really should read the Ellis take on the characters.  And I liked the last three storylines, even the EXORCIST one, quite a bit.  </p>
<p><b>C</b>  I dunno.  It FEELS like Gerber&#8217;s personal philosophy was a huge part of the book.  And I do see the &#8220;marganalized man&#8217; thang Plok mentions, which is a strong theme in Howard the Duck, Omega&#8230;  And, especially Man-Thing.  </p>
<p>I think the reason Steve&#8217;s beliefs are so hard to sum up is that HE never really came to hard-and-fast conclusions.  I always felt he was sharing what he had learned, but he was aware that there was A LOT of stuff he didn&#8217;t know.  Like, all his writing was phrased like &#8220;Here I am at the moment&#8230; But what I think now might not be what I think tomorrow.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TV's Grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>TV's Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 03:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was one fascinating post.</description>
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		<title>By: plok</title>
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		<dc:creator>plok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d imagine it was Steve answering all the letters, sometimes as himself, sometimes as an &quot;armadillo&quot; -- apparently he was famous for that.

Also, that kind of sounds like him, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d imagine it was Steve answering all the letters, sometimes as himself, sometimes as an &#8220;armadillo&#8221; &#8212; apparently he was famous for that.</p>
<p>Also, that kind of sounds like him, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever answers the letters (Editor Roy Thomas?) responds:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

First of all, Jm, best wishes to you and the entire crew at WBAI-FM, which, for the benefit of non-New Yorkers, is the listener supported free-form radio station in Fun City.  It&#039;s good to know you guys in the other media are doing what you&#039;re doing.  

We&#039;ve reproduced above the Satanist card Jim sent along for all you skeptics out there in Marvel-land who still refuse to believe that such people exist. (sorry, no scanner.  MA)  They do.  And from all indications, they&#039;re proliferating.  Some are true believers in Satanism as a religion; and some, naturally, have been driven to Satanic churches and cults out of sheer curiosity.  

As nutty as it probably sounds to most of our readership, we&#039;d like to extend an invitation to any of you who are reading this page and who happen to be Satanists to drop us a line and let us here about your group, it&#039;s rites (as much as you can tell without violating the pledges of secrecy which some groups require their members to take), and so on.  But no proselytising please -  and no attempts at fakery, either.  Though Steve Gerber (who&#039;s now writing this mag) has never attended a Satanic ritual, he&#039;s done more than enough reading about the subject to spot a fraud by about Sentence Number Two.  

And now, about the &quot;pentagram&quot;: you&#039;re quite right, Mr. Freund, in that the symbol on Damien&#039;s chest in SPOTLIGHT # 12-14 was indeed a witches&#039; symbol.  The inverted star which appears on the Church of Satan card and now on Mister Hellstrom is the Symbol of Bahomet, the Pan-like goat-headed representative of Satan.  In fact, as can be seen on the car (though it&#039;s impossible to detail it on Daimon&#039;s bod), the goat&#039;s head is part of the symbol, contained within the outline of the star.  

According to Anton Szandor LaVey, in THE SATANIC BIBLE, &quot;The Hebraic figures around the outer circle of the symbol which stem from the magical teachings of the Kabala, spell out &quot;Leviathan,&quot; the serpent of the watery abyss, and identified with Satan.&quot;

What&#039;s more, Jim and everyone else, the symbol ain&#039;t a tattoo-- it&#039;s a birthmark, actually a part of Daimon&#039;s flesh.  It cannot be removed, washed off, bleached, or otherwise blotted out, or we suspect Daimon would have got rid of it long ago.  

Finally, you&#039;re absolutely right about the enmity that exists between witchcraft and Satanism, and you can expect to see that element cropping up from time to time as our series progresses.  We just haven&#039;t figured out yet whether a coven of witches would be Daimon&#039;s allies or enemies.  Again, reader opinion is invited.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever answers the letters (Editor Roy Thomas?) responds:</p>
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<p>First of all, Jm, best wishes to you and the entire crew at WBAI-FM, which, for the benefit of non-New Yorkers, is the listener supported free-form radio station in Fun City.  It&#8217;s good to know you guys in the other media are doing what you&#8217;re doing.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve reproduced above the Satanist card Jim sent along for all you skeptics out there in Marvel-land who still refuse to believe that such people exist. (sorry, no scanner.  MA)  They do.  And from all indications, they&#8217;re proliferating.  Some are true believers in Satanism as a religion; and some, naturally, have been driven to Satanic churches and cults out of sheer curiosity.  </p>
<p>As nutty as it probably sounds to most of our readership, we&#8217;d like to extend an invitation to any of you who are reading this page and who happen to be Satanists to drop us a line and let us here about your group, it&#8217;s rites (as much as you can tell without violating the pledges of secrecy which some groups require their members to take), and so on.  But no proselytising please &#8211;  and no attempts at fakery, either.  Though Steve Gerber (who&#8217;s now writing this mag) has never attended a Satanic ritual, he&#8217;s done more than enough reading about the subject to spot a fraud by about Sentence Number Two.  </p>
<p>And now, about the &#8220;pentagram&#8221;: you&#8217;re quite right, Mr. Freund, in that the symbol on Damien&#8217;s chest in SPOTLIGHT # 12-14 was indeed a witches&#8217; symbol.  The inverted star which appears on the Church of Satan card and now on Mister Hellstrom is the Symbol of Bahomet, the Pan-like goat-headed representative of Satan.  In fact, as can be seen on the car (though it&#8217;s impossible to detail it on Daimon&#8217;s bod), the goat&#8217;s head is part of the symbol, contained within the outline of the star.  </p>
<p>According to Anton Szandor LaVey, in THE SATANIC BIBLE, &#8220;The Hebraic figures around the outer circle of the symbol which stem from the magical teachings of the Kabala, spell out &#8220;Leviathan,&#8221; the serpent of the watery abyss, and identified with Satan.&#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, Jim and everyone else, the symbol ain&#8217;t a tattoo&#8211; it&#8217;s a birthmark, actually a part of Daimon&#8217;s flesh.  It cannot be removed, washed off, bleached, or otherwise blotted out, or we suspect Daimon would have got rid of it long ago.  </p>
<p>Finally, you&#8217;re absolutely right about the enmity that exists between witchcraft and Satanism, and you can expect to see that element cropping up from time to time as our series progresses.  We just haven&#8217;t figured out yet whether a coven of witches would be Daimon&#8217;s allies or enemies.  Again, reader opinion is invited.
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah crap.  I KNOW I said St. Louis originally, but I edited it to &quot;New York&quot; in the last couple days.  I&#039;ll fix it.

Jim Freund -  Your letter is, likewise, in Marvel Spotlight # 15.  Since you&#039;re here, (Which is really cool, BTW) here&#039;s the whole thing in it&#039;s entirety.  Gerber doesn&#039;t reply (I believe his ONLY personalized reply was one I reprinted) but it&#039;s a good example of the back-and-forth between reader and editor in the SOS letters page.  
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Dear Frantic Friends,

SON OF SATAN is certainly most intriguing!  I am not what you call an avid comics fan, yet there are those that I find to be well-plotted enough or artistic enough or whatever to keep me buying from month to month.  (Horrors!  Here I am, a science fiction fanatic, looking for &lt;i&gt; literature&lt;/i&gt;, ie Pohl, Van Voght, Sturgeon, Del Ray, Effinger, Brown, etc... while putting down that &quot;comic book mentality.&quot;  In fact, I am doing an sf book review and interview show here at WBAI-FM.  I&#039;ve been able to have the aforementioned Pohl, Del Ray, Piglet, as well as Asimov, Chip Delaney, and others on the program.)  I&#039;m searching for WORLD&#039;S UNKNOWN, DR. STRANGE (which is the one comic I&#039;ve followed all my life), DEFENDERS, and some others here and there.

Anyway, for the reason I wrote.  Your artist shows Son of Satan with a pentagram tattooed on his chest.  Fine and good. You have, however, made one grevious error:  IT&#039;S A WITCHES&#039; PENTAGRAM!!   Don&#039;t cop out and tell me he was using witches&#039; magic; the issue itself shows quite specifically that he is not.  And, in reality, there is no such thing as black or white magic; it&#039;s all grey.

I enclose a card given to me at the Infinity Convention by a member of the Church of Satan.  Believe it or not, he is quite serious.  Note that there are two circles and Hebrew lettering in the Satanist version o the pentagram.  The significance of the lettering escapes me.  

By and by, Witchcraft and Satanism just do not get along.  The Craft holds no worship for Satan or God.  Each coven has it&#039;s own god &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; goddess, usually taken from Greek or Welsh or some other such mythos.

Take care.

Jim Freund
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah crap.  I KNOW I said St. Louis originally, but I edited it to &#8220;New York&#8221; in the last couple days.  I&#8217;ll fix it.</p>
<p>Jim Freund &#8211;  Your letter is, likewise, in Marvel Spotlight # 15.  Since you&#8217;re here, (Which is really cool, BTW) here&#8217;s the whole thing in it&#8217;s entirety.  Gerber doesn&#8217;t reply (I believe his ONLY personalized reply was one I reprinted) but it&#8217;s a good example of the back-and-forth between reader and editor in the SOS letters page.  </p>
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Dear Frantic Friends,</p>
<p>SON OF SATAN is certainly most intriguing!  I am not what you call an avid comics fan, yet there are those that I find to be well-plotted enough or artistic enough or whatever to keep me buying from month to month.  (Horrors!  Here I am, a science fiction fanatic, looking for <i> literature</i>, ie Pohl, Van Voght, Sturgeon, Del Ray, Effinger, Brown, etc&#8230; while putting down that &#8220;comic book mentality.&#8221;  In fact, I am doing an sf book review and interview show here at WBAI-FM.  I&#8217;ve been able to have the aforementioned Pohl, Del Ray, Piglet, as well as Asimov, Chip Delaney, and others on the program.)  I&#8217;m searching for WORLD&#8217;S UNKNOWN, DR. STRANGE (which is the one comic I&#8217;ve followed all my life), DEFENDERS, and some others here and there.</p>
<p>Anyway, for the reason I wrote.  Your artist shows Son of Satan with a pentagram tattooed on his chest.  Fine and good. You have, however, made one grevious error:  IT&#8217;S A WITCHES&#8217; PENTAGRAM!!   Don&#8217;t cop out and tell me he was using witches&#8217; magic; the issue itself shows quite specifically that he is not.  And, in reality, there is no such thing as black or white magic; it&#8217;s all grey.</p>
<p>I enclose a card given to me at the Infinity Convention by a member of the Church of Satan.  Believe it or not, he is quite serious.  Note that there are two circles and Hebrew lettering in the Satanist version o the pentagram.  The significance of the lettering escapes me.  </p>
<p>By and by, Witchcraft and Satanism just do not get along.  The Craft holds no worship for Satan or God.  Each coven has it&#8217;s own god <i>and</i> goddess, usually taken from Greek or Welsh or some other such mythos.</p>
<p>Take care.</p>
<p>Jim Freund
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<p>&#8230;. Piglet?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice piece, Mark.

(Also, that poor fellow&#039;s got at least two swords up his bum. That&#039;s gotta be uncomfortable.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice piece, Mark.</p>
<p>(Also, that poor fellow&#8217;s got at least two swords up his bum. That&#8217;s gotta be uncomfortable.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Freund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Freund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Random.  (Sounds like a Zelazny charater, eh?)

Any idea when my &quot;strident&quot; post appeared?  (I thought I was more &quot;niggling&quot;...)

--J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Random.  (Sounds like a Zelazny charater, eh?)</p>
<p>Any idea when my &#8220;strident&#8221; post appeared?  (I thought I was more &#8220;niggling&#8221;&#8230;)</p>
<p>&#8211;J</p>
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		<title>By: Random Stranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 01:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I went ahead and looked it up and it was Marvel Spotlight #15, Gerber&#039;s second issue, in which the flip happened.  It&#039;s toward the end of the issue if you want to check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I went ahead and looked it up and it was Marvel Spotlight #15, Gerber&#8217;s second issue, in which the flip happened.  It&#8217;s toward the end of the issue if you want to check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Freund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Freund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 01:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could well be.  As I recall, the flip (as it were) was in the subsequent issue.  Whether that coincided with Gerber&#039;s helming the book, I dunno,  It makes sense that he would&#039;ve used that as an excuse to help reboot the series.  All I know is that I had decided it was all because of me, and I&#039;m sticking to that bit of egotism.  ;)  

Does anyone have the response the ed. had to my missive?  

At any rate, I&#039;m ginna have to re-read this stuff.

Regards,
Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could well be.  As I recall, the flip (as it were) was in the subsequent issue.  Whether that coincided with Gerber&#8217;s helming the book, I dunno,  It makes sense that he would&#8217;ve used that as an excuse to help reboot the series.  All I know is that I had decided it was all because of me, and I&#8217;m sticking to that bit of egotism.  <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Does anyone have the response the ed. had to my missive?  </p>
<p>At any rate, I&#8217;m ginna have to re-read this stuff.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Random Stranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, I don&#039;t have the book in my hand but I recall the flipping pentagram occurred right at the beginning of Gerber&#039;s run when he was throwing out pretty much everything that happened in the previous three appearances of the the character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I don&#8217;t have the book in my hand but I recall the flipping pentagram occurred right at the beginning of Gerber&#8217;s run when he was throwing out pretty much everything that happened in the previous three appearances of the the character.</p>
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		<title>By: The Fantome</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Fantome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite fascinating that everyone seems to agree that Hellstrom was a weak character.  At the time, I found him much more interesting than The Ghost Rider and quite a risk for the still politically correct industry of the time.  Sure Marvel had it&#039;s Spider-Man drug issue and it&#039;s stories were much less dated than DC, but having Satan&#039;s name blazing on the cover and the controversial son of the Devil as a &quot;horror-hero&quot; was as risque as you could get.  Does anyone else remember the issue of Amazing Spider-Man that re-introduced the Black Widow in her new black bodysuit and long red hair.  A sihoulette of Natasha changing her clothes would reveal that she didn&#039;t wear a bra under her costume.  THIS revelation was the talk of fandom for weeks.  Unlike the zombie fest of today where naked womwn and every other word being a F-bomb is the norm for many independant publishers, there were lines you just didn&#039;t cross back then.  The Son of Satan crossed the line.  Just imagine the poor kids who got caught with a rolled-up copy of Son of Satan in there back pockets by their home room nun in a Catholic School!

Let&#039;s not confuse &quot;a weak character&quot; with that of a character who wasn&#039;t the usual true-blue Superhero of the time.  Daimon was a occultist, a religious figure and by all other accounts, a good man.  He was also the son of the Devil who obviously witnessed incredible tortures and evil in his earlier life.  Through it all, he was less angst ridden than deliberate.  He understood he was on Earth to lessed the evil orchestrated by the father.  He was not the Anti-Christ he was bred to become, but more of an Anti-Anti-Christ.  He had the powers and birthright, but his soul was originally good (although later interpretations would certainly suggest otherwise).  Even his short-lived superhero identity had meaning.  Citizens of Marvel-Earth were used to costumed adventurers dressed like the Devil.  What better way to hide the fact that you&#039;re the real son of the Devil than to create a superhero identity with a gaudy costume and a name like &quot;Son of Satan&quot;.  Brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite fascinating that everyone seems to agree that Hellstrom was a weak character.  At the time, I found him much more interesting than The Ghost Rider and quite a risk for the still politically correct industry of the time.  Sure Marvel had it&#8217;s Spider-Man drug issue and it&#8217;s stories were much less dated than DC, but having Satan&#8217;s name blazing on the cover and the controversial son of the Devil as a &#8220;horror-hero&#8221; was as risque as you could get.  Does anyone else remember the issue of Amazing Spider-Man that re-introduced the Black Widow in her new black bodysuit and long red hair.  A sihoulette of Natasha changing her clothes would reveal that she didn&#8217;t wear a bra under her costume.  THIS revelation was the talk of fandom for weeks.  Unlike the zombie fest of today where naked womwn and every other word being a F-bomb is the norm for many independant publishers, there were lines you just didn&#8217;t cross back then.  The Son of Satan crossed the line.  Just imagine the poor kids who got caught with a rolled-up copy of Son of Satan in there back pockets by their home room nun in a Catholic School!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not confuse &#8220;a weak character&#8221; with that of a character who wasn&#8217;t the usual true-blue Superhero of the time.  Daimon was a occultist, a religious figure and by all other accounts, a good man.  He was also the son of the Devil who obviously witnessed incredible tortures and evil in his earlier life.  Through it all, he was less angst ridden than deliberate.  He understood he was on Earth to lessed the evil orchestrated by the father.  He was not the Anti-Christ he was bred to become, but more of an Anti-Anti-Christ.  He had the powers and birthright, but his soul was originally good (although later interpretations would certainly suggest otherwise).  Even his short-lived superhero identity had meaning.  Citizens of Marvel-Earth were used to costumed adventurers dressed like the Devil.  What better way to hide the fact that you&#8217;re the real son of the Devil than to create a superhero identity with a gaudy costume and a name like &#8220;Son of Satan&#8221;.  Brilliant!</p>
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