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	<title>Comments on: This Comic Is Good - Final Crisis #1</title>
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		<title>By: Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources &#187; Final Crisis Review Archive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources &#187; Final Crisis Review Archive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ninjawookie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ninjawookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how this book isn&#039;t crammed with artwork where it becomes impossible to discern what was going on. I hope the rest of the book is like this, and on time, otherwise i&#039;ll lose interest like I did with Wonder Woman. It&#039;s probably one of the more accessible things that he&#039;s written recently, even if I had to look up anthro and kamandi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how this book isn't crammed with artwork where it becomes impossible to discern what was going on. I hope the rest of the book is like this, and on time, otherwise i'll lose interest like I did with Wonder Woman. It's probably one of the more accessible things that he's written recently, even if I had to look up anthro and kamandi.</p>
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		<title>By: wwk5d</title>
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		<dc:creator>wwk5d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On second thought, I doubt there ever will be any confirmation on this, since it would make DC editorial look quite stupid. Plus, considering how we&#039;re now firmly in the era of the &#039;star writer&#039;, if this is true, how dumb does that make DC for potentially pissing off someone they have given the keys to the kingdom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On second thought, I doubt there ever will be any confirmation on this, since it would make DC editorial look quite stupid. Plus, considering how we're now firmly in the era of the 'star writer', if this is true, how dumb does that make DC for potentially pissing off someone they have given the keys to the kingdom?</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/05/29/this-comic-is-good-final-crisis-1/comment-page-2/#comment-664512</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the interview:

&quot;Back in 2006, I requested a moratorium on the New Gods so that I could build up some foreboding and create anticipation for their return in a new form â€¦ instead, the characters were passed around like hepatitis B to practically every writer at DC to toy with as they pleased, which, to be honest, makes it very difficult for me to reintroduce them with any sense of novelty, mystery or grandeur. So in cases like this, where fellow creators have overlooked my carefully established additions to DC continuity or ignored my pleas to hold certain characters in reserve, my intention is to follow the through-line Iâ€™ve established in my own work so that thereâ€™s at least some long-term consistency.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the interview:</p>
<p>"Back in 2006, I requested a moratorium on the New Gods so that I could build up some foreboding and create anticipation for their return in a new form â€¦ instead, the characters were passed around like hepatitis B to practically every writer at DC to toy with as they pleased, which, to be honest, makes it very difficult for me to reintroduce them with any sense of novelty, mystery or grandeur. So in cases like this, where fellow creators have overlooked my carefully established additions to DC continuity or ignored my pleas to hold certain characters in reserve, my intention is to follow the through-line Iâ€™ve established in my own work so that thereâ€™s at least some long-term consistency."</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/05/29/this-comic-is-good-final-crisis-1/comment-page-2/#comment-664511</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interview is in Comics Foundry #2. As far as whether or not such a request was actually made, your guess is as good as mine. But he seemed relatively miffed that his wishes weren&#039;t respected, and indicated that he&#039;d be telling the story the way he wanted to tell it originally anyway. Which would seem to be what happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interview is in Comics Foundry #2. As far as whether or not such a request was actually made, your guess is as good as mine. But he seemed relatively miffed that his wishes weren't respected, and indicated that he'd be telling the story the way he wanted to tell it originally anyway. Which would seem to be what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: wwk5d</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/05/29/this-comic-is-good-final-crisis-1/comment-page-2/#comment-664510</link>
		<dc:creator>wwk5d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any way that can be confirmed?</description>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/05/29/this-comic-is-good-final-crisis-1/comment-page-2/#comment-664499</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an interview with G-Mozz in the last Comics Foundry in which he mentions that other DC writers weren&#039;t even meant to touch the New Gods over the past year or so. His story, which he&#039;s presumably had in the bag for awhile, reflects that- it&#039;s meant to be an epic re-introduction to the New Gods, not a follow-up to a crappy mini-series about their deaths. So the fault for Countdown and its tie-ins not matching up with Final Crisis would seem to lay at editorial&#039;s feet, not Morrison&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's an interview with G-Mozz in the last Comics Foundry in which he mentions that other DC writers weren't even meant to touch the New Gods over the past year or so. His story, which he's presumably had in the bag for awhile, reflects that- it's meant to be an epic re-introduction to the New Gods, not a follow-up to a crappy mini-series about their deaths. So the fault for Countdown and its tie-ins not matching up with Final Crisis would seem to lay at editorial's feet, not Morrison's.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Rice</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/05/29/this-comic-is-good-final-crisis-1/comment-page-2/#comment-664490</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I am in no way defending any such thing.  All I&#039;m saying is that good stories are more important than a fucking puzzle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I am in no way defending any such thing.  All I'm saying is that good stories are more important than a fucking puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynxara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynxara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hypertime is fine when applied to stories that are old enough that they&#039;ve generally had time to fade into being more history than immediate context. Saying it&#039;s okay to apply Hypertime to stuff published within the last year-- or that it&#039;s even necessary to do so in order to tell a good story-- reflects very, very poorly on DC as a publisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hypertime is fine when applied to stories that are old enough that they've generally had time to fade into being more history than immediate context. Saying it's okay to apply Hypertime to stuff published within the last year-- or that it's even necessary to do so in order to tell a good story-- reflects very, very poorly on DC as a publisher.</p>
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		<title>By: John Seavey</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/05/29/this-comic-is-good-final-crisis-1/comment-page-2/#comment-664439</link>
		<dc:creator>John Seavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 18:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, God, comic companies, please do not listen to the people that insist that the only way to be able to write and draw good stories is to spend all their time retconning away each others&#039; old continuity that they don&#039;t like.

If someone wants to write and draw a good story that doesn&#039;t fit into continuity, they can always do so; nobody complained that &#039;Monster Society of Evil&#039; didn&#039;t fit into Captain Marvel&#039;s continuity, did they? No, because Jeff Smith didn&#039;t pretend it did. And gosh, it still worked just fine. He wrote and drew the story he wanted to, and so did Darwyn Cooke with New Frontier (even though I still can&#039;t stand that one, but it has nothing to do with the continuity) and so does Tom DeFalco with Spider-Girl, and so did Bendis with Ultimate Spider-Man (although it got kind of old for me around issue #60)...

The issue isn&#039;t when people write stories that don&#039;t fit into continuity. The issue is when people write stories that don&#039;t fit into continuity, and insist loudly that they do so fit into continuity and if you notice a problem then shut up, you whiny fanboy, you must not have a life to be paying attention to that and anyway that old story doesn&#039;t count anymore. :)

Think of it this way. The kind of story you&#039;re defending isn&#039;t Grant Morrison&#039;s &#039;Doom Patrol&#039;. It&#039;s John Byrne&#039;s &#039;Doom Patrol&#039; that tried to claim Morrison&#039;s &#039;Doom Patrol&#039; never happened. Which one is the &quot;good story&quot; and which one is the pointless exercise in continuity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, God, comic companies, please do not listen to the people that insist that the only way to be able to write and draw good stories is to spend all their time retconning away each others' old continuity that they don't like.</p>
<p>If someone wants to write and draw a good story that doesn't fit into continuity, they can always do so; nobody complained that 'Monster Society of Evil' didn't fit into Captain Marvel's continuity, did they? No, because Jeff Smith didn't pretend it did. And gosh, it still worked just fine. He wrote and drew the story he wanted to, and so did Darwyn Cooke with New Frontier (even though I still can't stand that one, but it has nothing to do with the continuity) and so does Tom DeFalco with Spider-Girl, and so did Bendis with Ultimate Spider-Man (although it got kind of old for me around issue #60)...</p>
<p>The issue isn't when people write stories that don't fit into continuity. The issue is when people write stories that don't fit into continuity, and insist loudly that they do so fit into continuity and if you notice a problem then shut up, you whiny fanboy, you must not have a life to be paying attention to that and anyway that old story doesn't count anymore. <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Think of it this way. The kind of story you're defending isn't Grant Morrison's 'Doom Patrol'. It's John Byrne's 'Doom Patrol' that tried to claim Morrison's 'Doom Patrol' never happened. Which one is the "good story" and which one is the pointless exercise in continuity?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Rice</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/05/29/this-comic-is-good-final-crisis-1/comment-page-2/#comment-664431</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, God, comic companies, please do not listen to the people that want their fictional universes all mapped out and detailed and &quot;consistent.&quot; 

Just let people write and draw good stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, God, comic companies, please do not listen to the people that want their fictional universes all mapped out and detailed and "consistent." </p>
<p>Just let people write and draw good stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Sijo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sijo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sijo: About that Atlantis thingâ€¦YOUâ€™RE THE ONLY PERSON ON EARTH WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS THAT.&quot;

Riiight. Because I&#039;m the only person who&#039;s ever heard of the  ARION, LORD OF ATLANTIS series. :-P

Hey, I&#039;m not saying it was a GOOD idea. The Arion writers should have done their research and set the series at a time where, you know, HUMANS ALREADY EXISTED. Though they&#039;re hardly the only ones who committed such errors in comics history.

If they want to reboot that, fine by me. But dammit, do it CLEARLY. Do a DC History series with *details* (not the crappy thing they did in 52.) Don&#039;t just drop us into stories were we have  wonder, &quot;Hey, what happened with...?&quot; I don&#039;t buy comics to then have to make up my own explanations (without even getting a No-Prize for it!  :-p  )

Brian: Umm, I hate to break this to you, but Hypertime is no longer being used. Didio himself said so.

It was a bad idea, anyway. Not that we could have alternate realities, that was cool. But to assume that the main reality changes without warning? That means the freakin&#039; universe is UNSTABLE. Sounds like a menace to me, not something to be celebrated. Not to mention being an excuse for poor writers to ignore continuity at their whim. Which is what has ruined DC&#039;s continuity all along. You notice Marvel doesn&#039;t suffer these problems (well, with rare exceptions like ONE MORE DAY...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Sijo: About that Atlantis thingâ€¦YOUâ€™RE THE ONLY PERSON ON EARTH WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS THAT."</p>
<p>Riiight. Because I'm the only person who's ever heard of the  ARION, LORD OF ATLANTIS series. <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hey, I'm not saying it was a GOOD idea. The Arion writers should have done their research and set the series at a time where, you know, HUMANS ALREADY EXISTED. Though they're hardly the only ones who committed such errors in comics history.</p>
<p>If they want to reboot that, fine by me. But dammit, do it CLEARLY. Do a DC History series with *details* (not the crappy thing they did in 52.) Don't just drop us into stories were we have  wonder, "Hey, what happened with...?" I don't buy comics to then have to make up my own explanations (without even getting a No-Prize for it!  :-p  )</p>
<p>Brian: Umm, I hate to break this to you, but Hypertime is no longer being used. Didio himself said so.</p>
<p>It was a bad idea, anyway. Not that we could have alternate realities, that was cool. But to assume that the main reality changes without warning? That means the freakin' universe is UNSTABLE. Sounds like a menace to me, not something to be celebrated. Not to mention being an excuse for poor writers to ignore continuity at their whim. Which is what has ruined DC's continuity all along. You notice Marvel doesn't suffer these problems (well, with rare exceptions like ONE MORE DAY...)</p>
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		<title>By: John Seavey</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/05/29/this-comic-is-good-final-crisis-1/comment-page-1/#comment-664403</link>
		<dc:creator>John Seavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 11:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I made my point sufficiently clear, there, so I&#039;ll use an example that clarifies it perfectly: The ultimate extension of Hypertime to its logical conclusion was Dan DiDio&#039;s decision to write all the stories that used Hypertime out of Hypertime because he thought it was a lame idea and decided he shouldn&#039;t be bound by other people&#039;s bad ideas. :)

What the current crop of writers is doing (and I don&#039;t intend to single out Morrison, this is endemic to modern superhero comics) isn&#039;t &quot;ignoring&quot; stories they don&#039;t like, it&#039;s actively singling them out for retconning in some sort of attempt to advance their own personal agendas. All of the major retcons of &#039;Infinite Crisis&#039; were done solely to retcon existing retcons that Geoff Johns (and Morrison and Waid and Rucka, who all had quite a bit of input) thought were &quot;lame&quot;. They brought back the multiverse purely because they didn&#039;t like the story that undid it, not because they had any vision or purpose for a DC multiverse. The next crop of hot writers will no doubt retcon away that retcon because they were big fans of post-Crisis DC.

You claim that this &quot;Hypertime&quot; approach allows you to ignore continuity when it gets in the way of stories, but I look at the stories and see the opposite--they&#039;re ignoring storytelling to focus on whose continuity is going to dominate each narrative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think I made my point sufficiently clear, there, so I'll use an example that clarifies it perfectly: The ultimate extension of Hypertime to its logical conclusion was Dan DiDio's decision to write all the stories that used Hypertime out of Hypertime because he thought it was a lame idea and decided he shouldn't be bound by other people's bad ideas. <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What the current crop of writers is doing (and I don't intend to single out Morrison, this is endemic to modern superhero comics) isn't "ignoring" stories they don't like, it's actively singling them out for retconning in some sort of attempt to advance their own personal agendas. All of the major retcons of 'Infinite Crisis' were done solely to retcon existing retcons that Geoff Johns (and Morrison and Waid and Rucka, who all had quite a bit of input) thought were "lame". They brought back the multiverse purely because they didn't like the story that undid it, not because they had any vision or purpose for a DC multiverse. The next crop of hot writers will no doubt retcon away that retcon because they were big fans of post-Crisis DC.</p>
<p>You claim that this "Hypertime" approach allows you to ignore continuity when it gets in the way of stories, but I look at the stories and see the opposite--they're ignoring storytelling to focus on whose continuity is going to dominate each narrative.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 07:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe&#039;s absolutely right, that scene doesn&#039;t really mess with continuity at all. We can probably drop the Hypertime explanations for now. Also, I think the Manhunter&#039;s return was hinted at in last week&#039;s JLA, when Superman referred to JJ&#039;s &#039;secret mission&#039; (although I haven&#039;t been reading JLA, so he might have been talking about something else). If he really is dead, that&#039;s a piss-poor way to go, but I&#039;m sure he&#039;s not.

The issue itself wasn&#039;t anything overly special, for mine. It suffered a bit from Morrison&#039;s uniquely choppy writing style. But at least we can see what &#039;Final Crisis&#039; is actually ABOUT now (taking away good&#039;s hegemony over evil), which is nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe's absolutely right, that scene doesn't really mess with continuity at all. We can probably drop the Hypertime explanations for now. Also, I think the Manhunter's return was hinted at in last week's JLA, when Superman referred to JJ's 'secret mission' (although I haven't been reading JLA, so he might have been talking about something else). If he really is dead, that's a piss-poor way to go, but I'm sure he's not.</p>
<p>The issue itself wasn't anything overly special, for mine. It suffered a bit from Morrison's uniquely choppy writing style. But at least we can see what 'Final Crisis' is actually ABOUT now (taking away good's hegemony over evil), which is nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Rice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 03:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is not even necessary.  Batman is explaining shit to superheroes that haven&#039;t dealt with the New Gods.  Being upset about it is pure stupid.  Is fucking SPEEDY really informed about Orion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is not even necessary.  Batman is explaining shit to superheroes that haven't dealt with the New Gods.  Being upset about it is pure stupid.  Is fucking SPEEDY really informed about Orion?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 01:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does appear that way, Alonso.

But I dunno - it&#039;s not like stuff is even changed THAT much.

Most of the stuff is minor, anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does appear that way, Alonso.</p>
<p>But I dunno - it's not like stuff is even changed THAT much.</p>
<p>Most of the stuff is minor, anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: Alonso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 01:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second the support for Hypertime specifically and ignoring some stuff specfiically. If it gets in the way of telling a good story, I say go for it. It&#039;s funny, but the way it reads, and knowing that it&#039;s been a long time in the works, I have to think that it&#039;s actually DC that first changed the script (figuratively and literally) and that Morrison stood his ground and just kept on with the story he&#039;s telling.

That&#039;s the way it seemed to me at least. And I say good on him for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the support for Hypertime specifically and ignoring some stuff specfiically. If it gets in the way of telling a good story, I say go for it. It's funny, but the way it reads, and knowing that it's been a long time in the works, I have to think that it's actually DC that first changed the script (figuratively and literally) and that Morrison stood his ground and just kept on with the story he's telling.</p>
<p>That's the way it seemed to me at least. And I say good on him for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 00:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thereâ€™s a large enough pool of writers with a large enough pool of tastes that everyoneâ€™s going to think someoneâ€™s story is bad and should be ignored.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Exactly.

That&#039;s the whole POINT of Hypertime - EVERY story happened - writers just only have to specifically deal with the stuff they want to use. 

No one is tied to dumb ideas just because &quot;they happened.&quot;

And I love it.

Thank you, Mark Waid and Grant Morrison! What a wonderful idea!!</description>
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<p> Exactly.</p>
<p>That's the whole POINT of Hypertime - EVERY story happened - writers just only have to specifically deal with the stuff they want to use. </p>
<p>No one is tied to dumb ideas just because "they happened."</p>
<p>And I love it.</p>
<p>Thank you, Mark Waid and Grant Morrison! What a wonderful idea!!</p>
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		<title>By: John Seavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Seavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 00:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;ve had this conversation before, Brian, and I don&#039;t think we&#039;re ever going to see eye to eye on this (and wouldn&#039;t it be a boring old world if we all thought the same?)...but I just can&#039;t go with you here. In a shared universe as big as the DCU, feeling free to ignore every story you don&#039;t like is effectively the same as everyone ignoring everyone else&#039;s work, at which point it&#039;s no longer really a &quot;shared universe&quot; anymore. There&#039;s a large enough pool of writers with a large enough pool of tastes that everyone&#039;s going to think someone&#039;s story is bad and should be ignored.

At that point, what you&#039;ve got is a story where actions don&#039;t have consequences. The New Gods died last month, but Grant Morrison isn&#039;t interested in dealing with that story, so they die all over again this month. No follow through equals no consequences equals no drama. Why should I care about anything that happens when next week someone might arbitrarily decide, &quot;No, that chapter of the story was lame and I refuse to acknowledge it&quot;?

All this is an aside to &#039;Final Crisis&#039; specifically, because I don&#039;t feel qualified to debate on that subject (seeing as how I haven&#039;t seen more than the first few pages.) But I think that something was lost when COIE made it okay to undo old stories. I don&#039;t get my money back for those old comics, why should they get to negate them from continuity? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we've had this conversation before, Brian, and I don't think we're ever going to see eye to eye on this (and wouldn't it be a boring old world if we all thought the same?)...but I just can't go with you here. In a shared universe as big as the DCU, feeling free to ignore every story you don't like is effectively the same as everyone ignoring everyone else's work, at which point it's no longer really a "shared universe" anymore. There's a large enough pool of writers with a large enough pool of tastes that everyone's going to think someone's story is bad and should be ignored.</p>
<p>At that point, what you've got is a story where actions don't have consequences. The New Gods died last month, but Grant Morrison isn't interested in dealing with that story, so they die all over again this month. No follow through equals no consequences equals no drama. Why should I care about anything that happens when next week someone might arbitrarily decide, "No, that chapter of the story was lame and I refuse to acknowledge it"?</p>
<p>All this is an aside to 'Final Crisis' specifically, because I don't feel qualified to debate on that subject (seeing as how I haven't seen more than the first few pages.) But I think that something was lost when COIE made it okay to undo old stories. I don't get my money back for those old comics, why should they get to negate them from continuity? <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: joshschr</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshschr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also hope hypertime comes back.  In some alternate dimension, I could have typed that correctly the first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also hope hypertime comes back.  In some alternate dimension, I could have typed that correctly the first time.</p>
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