As for it coming from Shooter… I know the man’s got a harsh reputation, but this just reinforces how much I think he actually respects the fans and readers.

Man, I would love to have seen what Ellison would have come up with as a four-day Dazzler treatment.

Heh, knowing Ellison, he’d have waited 3 days to respond then sent a note saying ‘F— you, Shooter’.

The resulting one-day treatment from Shooter would have been interesting, though.

It was the “X-Men: Phoenix Rising” TPB, which reprinted the Avengers issue where they found the energy cocoon, the FF issue where they open it up, and X-Factor #1.

“I seem to recall that it wasn’t so much that Busiek pitched the idea so much as he wrote an angry letter after her death in which he stated that something like that was the only way to justify her actions.”

According to his introduction, it was an idea he came up with in response to hearing that the only way Jim Shooter would allow her back was if she could somehow not be responsible for genocide. Busiek didn’t actually pitch the idea so much as mention it to people through whom it made its way to Marvel, IIRC.

“So yeah, it’s no surprise you found that tidbit on the Dazzler page. And it’ll probably be there and enforced by some power-tripping Admin for the next decade.”

Actually, it was fixed in March 2005 and hasn’t been put back since.

…The problem is that most Wikipedia articles that are genre-based – Comic Books, TV Shows, Movies, Music – tend to get taken over by little “cabals” of teen punks who band together to get one or more of their little clique awarded Admin rights, and then abuse those rights to force total control over those articles and prevent outsiders from making positive contributions and/or make corrections. The outsiders find their changes reverted, and if/when they complain about it, the group’s admin shows up, defends the reverts, and usually bans the outsider from Wikipedia – especially if the outsider has *not* vandalized the article, but has improved its accuracy. Then, after the flack has died down, one of the “cabal” will go back and make the correction and claim the credit for it – especially on their User Page.

…It’s why I don’t contribute to Wikipedia either in knowledge or money, and I’ve let Jimbo Wales know this. Granted, he’s vowed to look into it, but so much of it is going on that it would take a complete elimination of all Admins and recruiting new ones that it’s just not going to happen. Until some solution is found – say, banning anyone under the age of 18, especially if they go to schools in Englandland – it’s going to be a classic tragic case of the inmates running the asylum, and a blow to the credibility of Wikipedia.

So yeah, it’s no surprise you found that tidbit on the Dazzler page. And it’ll probably be there and enforced by some power-tripping Admin for the next decade. Especially if Jim Shooter himself makes the correction, because they’ll hide behind both the “Original Research” and “Citation Needed” excuses…

Great story, Brian. We demand the Dazzler treatment!

IIRC, on the Superman: The Movie DVD, they talk about the bizarre early drafts which were floating around, and someone mentions that in one of them, Superman would fly around saying hello to people like Telly Savalas in character as Kojak. Again, I assume, this was a “shared talent pool” issue.

John Derek, coked to the gills, trying to struggle through She-Hulk #1. Does it get any better than that?

“The Apple” is to musicals what “Frankenstein Island” is to horror films.