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		<title>By: Comics Should Be Good! &#187; Friday&#8217;s Frequently Asked Questions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comics Should Be Good! &#187; Friday&#8217;s Frequently Asked Questions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] don&#8217;t. As I have documented many, many times &#8212; here and here are the most prominent &#8212; the DC characters were my gateway to comics and superheroes. And [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Comics Should Be Good! &#187; Friday at the Tryouts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comics Should Be Good! &#187; Friday at the Tryouts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You could say it started with my discovery of the television Batman in 1966, or perhaps with my discovery of the O&#8217;Neil-Adams version of Batman in the early 70&#8217;s. Or when I determined in high school that I would somehow, someday, get my own stuff published. Any [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You could say it started with my discovery of the television Batman in 1966, or perhaps with my discovery of the O&#8217;Neil-Adams version of Batman in the early 70&#8217;s. Or when I determined in high school that I would somehow, someday, get my own stuff published. Any [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Comics Should Be Good! &#187; Another Long Weekend on the Road</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comics Should Be Good! &#187; Another Long Weekend on the Road</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was something of a landmark for me, because this was the place I&#8217;d bought the copy of Detective #440 years ago that had so completely mesmerized [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Good Comics for Kids &#187; Pushing back from the kids&#8217; table</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good Comics for Kids &#187; Pushing back from the kids&#8217; table</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about whether comics for kids should blatantly look like comics for kids. Last week, Greg Hatcher wrote about how the comics that really engaged him as a child were the ones that were just a little bit [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about whether comics for kids should blatantly look like comics for kids. Last week, Greg Hatcher wrote about how the comics that really engaged him as a child were the ones that were just a little bit [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lothor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lothor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming late to this discussion.
As a young&#039;un (early 70s) I watched and enjoyed George Reeves in The Adventures of Superman, and the Spider-Man and Marvel Super-Heroes cartoon TV shows.  When I was about 3 I went as Superman for Halloween.  In 2nd or 3rd grade I went as Iron Man from the TV series (for which I was later made fun of for by my classmates, who thought I was &quot;Steel Man!&quot;)  (Also my mother refused to make a full face mask for me, so it didn&#039;t really come across well IMO.)   But I never got any comic books at that time.  It didn&#039;t even occur to me, and I don&#039;t remember seeing them in any stores we went to.  We had a few old Archies around the house - I don&#039;t know where those came from originally - which I read and reread, and some mass market paperback Peanuts collections.  When The Incredible Hulk TV series started I enjoyed that based partially on my having like Hulk the best from MSH, despite my brother&#039;s (and to a lesser extent father&#039;s) taunts of my being the &quot;Bulk.&quot;  At 11 I tried to go as the Hulk for Halloween, but my mother didn&#039;t buy the right kind of makeup and it didn&#039;t work so I was nothing for that Halloween. (I had made some tattered clothes to wear, it would have been awesome.  I saw someone else as the Hulk that year but it was terrible, it was a little green face makup and a &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;football uniform!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;)  Anyway, one day at the local drugstore I saw a display of comics including the Hulk.  My first purchase that I remember was Hulk 258 or 259, with the Soviet Super Soldiers.  I was 13.  I bought all my comics from the drugstore until sometime around 16-17 a friend introduced me to the LCS.  (His obsession was Dr Who.)

At thirteen I was also introduced to John Norman&#039;s Gor series, which affected me greatly, but that&#039;s another matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming late to this discussion.<br />
As a young'un (early 70s) I watched and enjoyed George Reeves in The Adventures of Superman, and the Spider-Man and Marvel Super-Heroes cartoon TV shows.  When I was about 3 I went as Superman for Halloween.  In 2nd or 3rd grade I went as Iron Man from the TV series (for which I was later made fun of for by my classmates, who thought I was "Steel Man!")  (Also my mother refused to make a full face mask for me, so it didn't really come across well IMO.)   But I never got any comic books at that time.  It didn't even occur to me, and I don't remember seeing them in any stores we went to.  We had a few old Archies around the house - I don't know where those came from originally - which I read and reread, and some mass market paperback Peanuts collections.  When The Incredible Hulk TV series started I enjoyed that based partially on my having like Hulk the best from MSH, despite my brother's (and to a lesser extent father's) taunts of my being the "Bulk."  At 11 I tried to go as the Hulk for Halloween, but my mother didn't buy the right kind of makeup and it didn't work so I was nothing for that Halloween. (I had made some tattered clothes to wear, it would have been awesome.  I saw someone else as the Hulk that year but it was terrible, it was a little green face makup and a <i><b>football uniform!</b></i>)  Anyway, one day at the local drugstore I saw a display of comics including the Hulk.  My first purchase that I remember was Hulk 258 or 259, with the Soviet Super Soldiers.  I was 13.  I bought all my comics from the drugstore until sometime around 16-17 a friend introduced me to the LCS.  (His obsession was Dr Who.)</p>
<p>At thirteen I was also introduced to John Norman's Gor series, which affected me greatly, but that's another matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Comics Should Be Good! &#187; Another Friday at the Kids&#8217; Table</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comics Should Be Good! &#187; Another Friday at the Kids&#8217; Table</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last week I was talking about the comics that really hit me right between the eyes when I was a kid, and how they were emphatically not designed specifically as &#8220;kid&#8217;s&#8221; comics. That they were, in fact, a little hard for me to grasp here and there and part of the appeal was that I had to struggle with them a bit. And I wondered how many of you out there had a similar experience, if the things you read when you were young that hit you where you lived had been maybe a little over your heads. Quite a few of you chimed in with an affirmative. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last week I was talking about the comics that really hit me right between the eyes when I was a kid, and how they were emphatically not designed specifically as &#8220;kid&#8217;s&#8221; comics. That they were, in fact, a little hard for me to grasp here and there and part of the appeal was that I had to struggle with them a bit. And I wondered how many of you out there had a similar experience, if the things you read when you were young that hit you where you lived had been maybe a little over your heads. Quite a few of you chimed in with an affirmative. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I followed the pattern Greg outlined: I was a casual comics reader starting at age 6, and then at age 8 I read my first issue of Daredevil by Stan Lee and Wally Wood. For the first time, I made sure to buy the next issue as soon as I saw it. I was hooked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I followed the pattern Greg outlined: I was a casual comics reader starting at age 6, and then at age 8 I read my first issue of Daredevil by Stan Lee and Wally Wood. For the first time, I made sure to buy the next issue as soon as I saw it. I was hooked.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Poehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Poehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I know is every issue of Tiny Titans is a joy from cover to cover, and I&#039;m way past the target age.</description>
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 04:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless, y&#039;know, it&#039;s &#039;40s nostalgia written by the guy who already sold hundreds of thousands of copies of his kid&#039;s comic.  Stick Jeff Smith&#039;s Captain Marvel in Digest Format and I can&#039;t imagine it won&#039;t sell by the truckload.

P.S.  My first comic?  Spidey Super Stories.  Take that, Greg&#039;s theory!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless, y'know, it's '40s nostalgia written by the guy who already sold hundreds of thousands of copies of his kid's comic.  Stick Jeff Smith's Captain Marvel in Digest Format and I can't imagine it won't sell by the truckload.</p>
<p>P.S.  My first comic?  Spidey Super Stories.  Take that, Greg's theory!</p>
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		<title>By: edc</title>
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		<dc:creator>edc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 04:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indeed, tho&#039; some won&#039;t grasp the concept, if marvel/dc want to get younger kids reading, they can&#039;t give them 40&#039;s nostalgia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed, tho' some won't grasp the concept, if marvel/dc want to get younger kids reading, they can't give them 40's nostalgia.</p>
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		<title>By: GRANT!</title>
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		<dc:creator>GRANT!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t read too many comics before I was 12. To be honest I was in the same boat as Greg. After I outgrew Superfriends reruns I was starting to get into other stuff. Even to the point where I was nine and really wasn&#039;t interested in seeing the new Batman movie (which I didn&#039;t see until it was on video after I saw Batman Returns,which I thought was pretty cool). Whatever comics I read at the time were either low stakes &quot;kiddie books&quot; or wrapped in some confusing storyline I couldn&#039;t find back issues for (I&#039;d mainly find comics at the grocery store).  So it took a while for me to be a comic book fan.

This may make some people cringe. As hokey as they were the things that got me back into superheros  and comics when I was a kid were Batman Knightfall, the post Chris Claremont X-Men and Image Comics. 

I got into Knightfall based on the really cool moody Kelley Jones covers and I heard this was the Batman equivalent to Death of Superman (which interested me until I saw the art). Plus I was on a Batman kick since Batman Returns and the cartoon. I was watching the X-Men cartoon so I was picking up that up occasionally. And then there was Image. 

A friend of mine was really into Image so I would read his stuff. And to be honest I got sucked into the glossiness of Image comics. The slick paper, the computer coloring and highly stylized art hooked me. Not to mention  the faux maturity of it. Superheros cursed and drew blood. Stuff that wasn&#039;t happening in most the DC and Marvel books I was reading. It was pretty cool when I was twelve and their was a forbidden fruit aspect about it. These were books I didn&#039;t want my parents to find lying around. 

And the best part it was all new. I felt like this could be the start of something big and my generation could have their own set of superheros instead of ones that inherited from a couple decades ago. So yeah I use to get excited about some of these generic new teams that Jim Lee, Marc Silvestri and Rob Liefeld would come up with. They weren&#039;t terribly original but they felt like mine.

Now I realize most of this stuff is shit. I&#039;ve since sold off most of these books. Youngblood never became the Fantastic Four. But it did appeal to my younger self and led me to much better books. I was also willing to skip the big two (I had no loyalty to either when I started buying comics) and discover books like Hellboy. Heck it help me discover classics like the Watchmen and Dark Knight. And when I started getting bored with superheros I was moving towards books like Sandman and Preacher and later indie books like Hate, Optic Nerve and Eightball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn't read too many comics before I was 12. To be honest I was in the same boat as Greg. After I outgrew Superfriends reruns I was starting to get into other stuff. Even to the point where I was nine and really wasn't interested in seeing the new Batman movie (which I didn't see until it was on video after I saw Batman Returns,which I thought was pretty cool). Whatever comics I read at the time were either low stakes "kiddie books" or wrapped in some confusing storyline I couldn't find back issues for (I'd mainly find comics at the grocery store).  So it took a while for me to be a comic book fan.</p>
<p>This may make some people cringe. As hokey as they were the things that got me back into superheros  and comics when I was a kid were Batman Knightfall, the post Chris Claremont X-Men and Image Comics. </p>
<p>I got into Knightfall based on the really cool moody Kelley Jones covers and I heard this was the Batman equivalent to Death of Superman (which interested me until I saw the art). Plus I was on a Batman kick since Batman Returns and the cartoon. I was watching the X-Men cartoon so I was picking up that up occasionally. And then there was Image. </p>
<p>A friend of mine was really into Image so I would read his stuff. And to be honest I got sucked into the glossiness of Image comics. The slick paper, the computer coloring and highly stylized art hooked me. Not to mention  the faux maturity of it. Superheros cursed and drew blood. Stuff that wasn't happening in most the DC and Marvel books I was reading. It was pretty cool when I was twelve and their was a forbidden fruit aspect about it. These were books I didn't want my parents to find lying around. </p>
<p>And the best part it was all new. I felt like this could be the start of something big and my generation could have their own set of superheros instead of ones that inherited from a couple decades ago. So yeah I use to get excited about some of these generic new teams that Jim Lee, Marc Silvestri and Rob Liefeld would come up with. They weren't terribly original but they felt like mine.</p>
<p>Now I realize most of this stuff is shit. I've since sold off most of these books. Youngblood never became the Fantastic Four. But it did appeal to my younger self and led me to much better books. I was also willing to skip the big two (I had no loyalty to either when I started buying comics) and discover books like Hellboy. Heck it help me discover classics like the Watchmen and Dark Knight. And when I started getting bored with superheros I was moving towards books like Sandman and Preacher and later indie books like Hate, Optic Nerve and Eightball.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob-el</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob-el</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took me a day to take myself back to when comics were at that &quot;this is all brand new to me&quot; feel. To some extend that&#039;s what you are talking about, too. 

I had to look for that wow moment when I was so enthralled by the story that I was emotionally invested in the hero&#039;s struggle. For me (and boy am I showing my age) it was two issues (32-33, I think) of Amazing Spider-Man. Spider-Man is desperate to say Aunt May but he is trapped under an enormous collapse of machinery with no room to get out or get leverage. He struggles and strains and fails and tries again until I had that euphoric moment when by sheer will power he frees himself. Needless to say, battered, bruised and half out of his head he goes on to save the day and Aunt May. I think from that point on I was sold on the heroic concept and never looked back. 

On a side note, there was a time when Roy Thomas in writing the Avengers would reference works like the Lord of the Rings and Moorcock&#039;s Elric stories in the letters columns. Then sometime later lo and behold in two issues of Conan - Elric himself appears. It gave comics a literary legitimacy to me at that age that enabled me to brush off the notion that they were kids stuff for years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took me a day to take myself back to when comics were at that "this is all brand new to me" feel. To some extend that's what you are talking about, too. </p>
<p>I had to look for that wow moment when I was so enthralled by the story that I was emotionally invested in the hero's struggle. For me (and boy am I showing my age) it was two issues (32-33, I think) of Amazing Spider-Man. Spider-Man is desperate to say Aunt May but he is trapped under an enormous collapse of machinery with no room to get out or get leverage. He struggles and strains and fails and tries again until I had that euphoric moment when by sheer will power he frees himself. Needless to say, battered, bruised and half out of his head he goes on to save the day and Aunt May. I think from that point on I was sold on the heroic concept and never looked back. </p>
<p>On a side note, there was a time when Roy Thomas in writing the Avengers would reference works like the Lord of the Rings and Moorcock's Elric stories in the letters columns. Then sometime later lo and behold in two issues of Conan - Elric himself appears. It gave comics a literary legitimacy to me at that age that enabled me to brush off the notion that they were kids stuff for years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the batman tv show got me into comics as well. i remember watching day time re-runs of the show and just enjoying the hell out of it. vincent price&#039;s egg head really sticks in my mind. so the first comic i bought was detective comics, i can&#039;t remember the issue number.

this was back when comics were 75 cents and spinner racks in every grocery store. so it was easy to earn enought money during the week to get a comic or maybe even two. now with 3 bucks  an issue, or $2.25 for the kid books,  it&#039;s too expensive for a kid to pick up a book because a cover or character looks cool. that&#039;s why every comic shop should have a quarter or fifty cent bin. i&#039;ve noticed those and back issue boxes in general disappearing. 

yet another great post greg! it always causes the best comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the batman tv show got me into comics as well. i remember watching day time re-runs of the show and just enjoying the hell out of it. vincent price's egg head really sticks in my mind. so the first comic i bought was detective comics, i can't remember the issue number.</p>
<p>this was back when comics were 75 cents and spinner racks in every grocery store. so it was easy to earn enought money during the week to get a comic or maybe even two. now with 3 bucks  an issue, or $2.25 for the kid books,  it's too expensive for a kid to pick up a book because a cover or character looks cool. that's why every comic shop should have a quarter or fifty cent bin. i've noticed those and back issue boxes in general disappearing. </p>
<p>yet another great post greg! it always causes the best comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek J. Goodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek J. Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luis Jaime, 
Thanks.  I remembered Ace and the Baroness, but I couldn&#039;t for the life of me remember the Cobra pilot&#039;s name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luis Jaime,<br />
Thanks.  I remembered Ace and the Baroness, but I couldn't for the life of me remember the Cobra pilot's name.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel a bit old saying this, but it was either Avengers Annual 16 (1987) or Uncanny X-Men 211 (late 1986).

The Avengers Annual had the Grandmaster interjecting on the East v. West Avengers softball game (which, conveniently, ALWAYS got interrupted). He reanimated the Avengers&#039; dead foes, and a few dead former allies, and split them into random teams against random teams of Avengers. Each mini-story usually ended with at least one hero dying. After the first round of fights, there were noticeably fewer Avengers, and they had to fight their newly-dead friends in addition to everyone they fought in the first round! At the end, Hawkeye convinces Grandmaster to play a game of chance, and uses his carnival background to trick him into losing, thus returning all the heroes to life (and back to their softball game).

Uncanny X-Men 211 is similar in that it features heroes getting beaten down, and sometimes losing. What is different is that the story doesn&#039;t &quot;clean up&quot;. This is serious Mutant Massacre stuff. I recently spoke to someone who was more mature at the time this story happened, and he was appalled at the wholesale slaughter of the X-Men team. I, on the other hand, was merely intrigued, wondering (after other readings a few years down the road) how the team recovered, because I knew that they had.

Both books came out when I was seven, but I&#039;m pretty sure I didn&#039;t get them &quot;new&quot;. If I recall, they came from Sears mail-order in a bulk package as a Christmas present (or my mom used a Sears box to package them). I read both books until they disintegrated, because they were so fascinating. Even when I knew what was going to happen, I had to revisit the story and enjoy it all over again. I had to dissect each panel, each piece of combat, where the characters were standing relative to each other, so my mind could construct it as a three-dimensional event, like a play in my mind. The Avengers book made me excited to see more character interaction; the X-Men book made me want to see the Marauders get what was coming to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel a bit old saying this, but it was either Avengers Annual 16 (1987) or Uncanny X-Men 211 (late 1986).</p>
<p>The Avengers Annual had the Grandmaster interjecting on the East v. West Avengers softball game (which, conveniently, ALWAYS got interrupted). He reanimated the Avengers' dead foes, and a few dead former allies, and split them into random teams against random teams of Avengers. Each mini-story usually ended with at least one hero dying. After the first round of fights, there were noticeably fewer Avengers, and they had to fight their newly-dead friends in addition to everyone they fought in the first round! At the end, Hawkeye convinces Grandmaster to play a game of chance, and uses his carnival background to trick him into losing, thus returning all the heroes to life (and back to their softball game).</p>
<p>Uncanny X-Men 211 is similar in that it features heroes getting beaten down, and sometimes losing. What is different is that the story doesn't "clean up". This is serious Mutant Massacre stuff. I recently spoke to someone who was more mature at the time this story happened, and he was appalled at the wholesale slaughter of the X-Men team. I, on the other hand, was merely intrigued, wondering (after other readings a few years down the road) how the team recovered, because I knew that they had.</p>
<p>Both books came out when I was seven, but I'm pretty sure I didn't get them "new". If I recall, they came from Sears mail-order in a bulk package as a Christmas present (or my mom used a Sears box to package them). I read both books until they disintegrated, because they were so fascinating. Even when I knew what was going to happen, I had to revisit the story and enjoy it all over again. I had to dissect each panel, each piece of combat, where the characters were standing relative to each other, so my mind could construct it as a three-dimensional event, like a play in my mind. The Avengers book made me excited to see more character interaction; the X-Men book made me want to see the Marauders get what was coming to them.</p>
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		<title>By: fineltour</title>
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		<dc:creator>fineltour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Magik.  I forget why i bought the first issue of that miniseries.  I&#039;d read a couple x-men, but had never encountered the character before.  But I picked it up and found it really fascinating.  Went on to pick up almost the entire series of new mutants primarily to follow her story.  I think what really grabbed me was that the morality was so gray.  they kept repeating that &quot;she had the face of an angel and the heart of a demon sorceress&quot; hundreds of times, but the simple truth was that she fought against the evil within her.  she struggled not against the next supervillain of the week, she struggled against her own urges.  for a kid just reaching the teenage years, that resonated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magik.  I forget why i bought the first issue of that miniseries.  I'd read a couple x-men, but had never encountered the character before.  But I picked it up and found it really fascinating.  Went on to pick up almost the entire series of new mutants primarily to follow her story.  I think what really grabbed me was that the morality was so gray.  they kept repeating that "she had the face of an angel and the heart of a demon sorceress" hundreds of times, but the simple truth was that she fought against the evil within her.  she struggled not against the next supervillain of the week, she struggled against her own urges.  for a kid just reaching the teenage years, that resonated.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was around 7, I remember being hooked on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon (and actually, reruns of the 60s Batman show).  This led to me seeking out this &#039;superhero&#039; thing.  Around 8 or 9 Batman: The Animated Series came on the air, followed by the X-Men Animated series (and two years later by the Spiderman one).  This led me to try out the Spiderman and X-Men comic books.  I remember not liking the main title very much, but I know I had bought some copies of &quot;The Deadly Foes of Spiderman&quot; and I think &quot;Web Of Spiderman&quot; and loving them.  I had never given DC a shot until I saw all four issues of the first &quot;Damage Control&quot; series together in a convenience store.  I was hooked from then onward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was around 7, I remember being hooked on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon (and actually, reruns of the 60s Batman show).  This led to me seeking out this 'superhero' thing.  Around 8 or 9 Batman: The Animated Series came on the air, followed by the X-Men Animated series (and two years later by the Spiderman one).  This led me to try out the Spiderman and X-Men comic books.  I remember not liking the main title very much, but I know I had bought some copies of "The Deadly Foes of Spiderman" and I think "Web Of Spiderman" and loving them.  I had never given DC a shot until I saw all four issues of the first "Damage Control" series together in a convenience store.  I was hooked from then onward.</p>
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		<title>By: Teebore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teebore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>X-Men 8 and Uncanny X-Men 290.

I was eleven and had read a few comics here and there. Of course, I knew all the big superheroes from cartoons and toys, the ones that would have transcended the format. I was actually more into collecting baseball cards at the time, and a friend gave me some of the Marvel trading cards. Combine all that together, and I figured I&#039;d give comics a more serious try. I picked out those two issues (for whatever reason, I can&#039;t recall) had no clue what was going on, and was hooked. 

I loved the sense of mythology and the promise of backstory, issues and issues of it. It was like the Edith Hamilton book about Greek mythology I had read over and over just had new material added to it. And it just exploded from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>X-Men 8 and Uncanny X-Men 290.</p>
<p>I was eleven and had read a few comics here and there. Of course, I knew all the big superheroes from cartoons and toys, the ones that would have transcended the format. I was actually more into collecting baseball cards at the time, and a friend gave me some of the Marvel trading cards. Combine all that together, and I figured I'd give comics a more serious try. I picked out those two issues (for whatever reason, I can't recall) had no clue what was going on, and was hooked. </p>
<p>I loved the sense of mythology and the promise of backstory, issues and issues of it. It was like the Edith Hamilton book about Greek mythology I had read over and over just had new material added to it. And it just exploded from there.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mayket</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Mayket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me it was the original Nova #11 in which he gets the living crap kicked out of him by the Sphinx.  Man, I read that thing until it fell apart and then bought it again at a comic store like 20 years later. 

But that didn&#039;t mean I still couldn&#039;t enjoy the hell out of a Little Archie story.  When I actually became a collector in the sense of following a series the two books I originally got every month were Amazing Spider-Man (during the Stern/Romita Jr. era) and Captain Carrot and His Amazing Zoo Crew.

You see it&#039;s actually possible to like more than one kind of thing at the same time.  I used to read Spider-Man and Spider-Ham.  Teen Titans and Captain Carrot.  Airboy and Archie.  X-Men and Uncle Scrooge.  And I enjoyed them all.  Couldn&#039;t it be possible to like Goodwin and Simonson&#039;s Manhunter AND Shazam by Mike Kunkel (pretending for a moment that they were contemporary to one another).    And even if the new Shazam book is never anyone&#039;s &quot;the one&quot; does every book have to be &quot;the one&quot;?  I grant you that it&#039;s an entire week until the rest of your point is made so I might be totally misreading where you are going.  

Anyway...  I apologize for any rambling I may have done and/or terrible usage of punctuation and grammar.  I am so very tired right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me it was the original Nova #11 in which he gets the living crap kicked out of him by the Sphinx.  Man, I read that thing until it fell apart and then bought it again at a comic store like 20 years later. </p>
<p>But that didn't mean I still couldn't enjoy the hell out of a Little Archie story.  When I actually became a collector in the sense of following a series the two books I originally got every month were Amazing Spider-Man (during the Stern/Romita Jr. era) and Captain Carrot and His Amazing Zoo Crew.</p>
<p>You see it's actually possible to like more than one kind of thing at the same time.  I used to read Spider-Man and Spider-Ham.  Teen Titans and Captain Carrot.  Airboy and Archie.  X-Men and Uncle Scrooge.  And I enjoyed them all.  Couldn't it be possible to like Goodwin and Simonson's Manhunter AND Shazam by Mike Kunkel (pretending for a moment that they were contemporary to one another).    And even if the new Shazam book is never anyone's "the one" does every book have to be "the one"?  I grant you that it's an entire week until the rest of your point is made so I might be totally misreading where you are going.  </p>
<p>Anyway...  I apologize for any rambling I may have done and/or terrible usage of punctuation and grammar.  I am so very tired right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ajit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg (Burgas, not Hacher), I think you&#039;re referring to the British football comic &#039;Roy of the Rovers&#039;. I read a fair amount of that, plus other British comics like the Beano annuals, growing up in India. 

The first superhero comic to leave any kind of impression was All-Star Comics #69 by Levitz and Staton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg (Burgas, not Hacher), I think you're referring to the British football comic 'Roy of the Rovers'. I read a fair amount of that, plus other British comics like the Beano annuals, growing up in India. </p>
<p>The first superhero comic to leave any kind of impression was All-Star Comics #69 by Levitz and Staton.</p>
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