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7/7 – Curious Cat Asks…

So what do you think the deal is with these Marvel ads (click to enlarge)?

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Tom Fitzpatrick

July 7, 2008 at 2:30 pm

Maybe it’s a another X-titles x-overs. (Just what WE need).

Kinda looks like cyclops looking mean.

I could have sworn I’ve seen a version of this image with an ‘X’ over the glasses.

Well, going by the letter X that’s appeared on this and another ad featuring a woman, and the red sunglasses on this one suggesting Cyclops, and the white streak of hair on the woman suggesting Rogue. It’s possible going from the slogan that 2009 will feature a big mutant-centered crossover that will affect Marvel titles beyond the X-titles.Possibly the idea that Cyclops leads the 198 against everybody else?

Either that or it’s a revamped Nick Fury and The Contessa for a new SHIELD comic.

I can’t imagine anyone being stupid enough to have Cyclops carry a handgun.

Something where a group of humans form a militia to get rid of the superheroes? I’m guessing the line’s a Civil War riff.

Um, it already happened in Astonishing, and it was really cool.
My first theory is that it’s a tease for the big 2009 event which will be an X-centric event now that we’ve had four Avengers events in a row. In this case it’s probably thematic, and there won’t actually be gun-clops.
My second theory is that it will be a What If? mini on the topic of What if Frank Miller had reinvigorated X-Men instead of Daredevil?, since it seems to be Sin City style art.

seems to me its the x-me striking back at the world.

“World War X”?

Best I heard:

Marvel Mobsters

The impression I get is that nobody’s on Marvel’s side. All the world is against them. They own nearly 50% of the market right now, but it’s them against the world. Poor, emo m8&865f(**&&(*09zz.

My first theory is that it’s a tease for the big 2009 event which will be an X-centric event now that we’ve had four Avengers events in a row.

Does Messiah Complex count? You could also argue that House of M was as much a mutant event as an Avengers event. It certainly had consequences for the (“no more”) mutants…

Agree that the images hint at a mutant-centered event — the ‘X’ appearing on each sure suggest that. Why Cyclops would be playing Eliot Ness I have no idea. Hard to imagine the Astonishing team working with the SFPD would get them into fedoras and trenchcoats. As noted above, perhaps it’s just thematic.

The X-Men get trapped in a Danger Room simulation of a Dixon Hill mystery novel.

“Say ‘ello to my leetool frien’…”

“My second theory is that it will be a What If? mini on the topic of What if Frank Miller had reinvigorated X-Men instead of Daredevil?, since it seems to be Sin City style art.”

I don’t quite see the “Sin City style” art, though you’re not the first person to say that. Is it just because it is black and white with a dash of red and has guns? Other than that it does not look anything like Frank Miller’s style to me.

Okay, taking bets: how long before some idiot posts the obligatory anti-Quesada/nuMarvel sux comment?

And, to the poster, (not trying to be rude here, just an honest question), do you not know how to resize images to make them smaller before you upload them to Comic Book Resources?

And, to the poster, (not trying to be rude here, just an honest question), do you not know how to resize images to make them smaller before you upload them to Comic Book Resources?

Huh?

The image IS re-sized, hence the whole “click to enlarge” thing. The picture in the post is the re-sized image.

The Cyclops image looks more Bradstreet than Miller to me, but the noir vibe’s inherent, either way.

Could be a MAX/Marvel Knights X-book, I suppose.

SanctumSanctorumComix

July 7, 2008 at 7:02 pm

Re: the Sin-City style comment;

I might be wrong, but I took this comment to mean that it’s in the “SIM CITY” style, and NOT the Frank Miller style.
Yes, I know Miller did SIn City, BUT… the comment seems to be focused on the minimalist black/white splash of color effect and not the actual drawing style.

Again, I could be off base.

Not that I agree, really, since this basic “noir” type style goes is fairly commonly used.

~P~
PTOR

Annoyed Grunt

July 7, 2008 at 7:14 pm

I predict that this will be about a new columnist at the Daily Bugle. What that ad doesn’t show us is that the left side of the glasses are green and that gun will make you shit yourself

I saw this image and the first thing that jumped to my mind was “Cyclops with a gun … Alternate reality where the mutants are the only ones WITHOUT powers?”

But I’m probably way off.

“Not that I agree, really, since this basic “noir” type style goes is fairly commonly used.”

That is the point I was going for — though I doubt Dalarsco thought so, I’ve read reactions from others elsewhere who are taking this image to mean that Frank Miller is doing an X-Men project for Marvel. But the image looks nothing like Miller’s art.

It could very well be a noir-ish take on the X-Men. But for people to think it actually is a Miller project based on three colors is rather silly. I think the guy already has more than enough projects on his plate as it is.

When I saw these ads I assumed that this was not an ad for a universe-spanning mega event, but rather a special x-project along the lines of 1602 or Dark Tower.

No chance that it’s Daredevil? Might be ye olde billy club in the hand that no one’s talking about.

Cyclops used a handgun instead of the concussive force blast that he generates naturally?

That’s dumb.

ABoyNamedPosh

July 7, 2008 at 9:37 pm

Nah, it made perfect sense in the context of the story. Commenting on something you haven’t read?

That’s dumb ;)

The only way that’s Cyclops with a gun is if his power is neutralized…or maybe an identity he adopts to throw people off, a la Eric the Red? The comment would be something a mutant character would say, at any rate.

There were talks of a Civil War sequel. Given the debilitated anti registration roster post civil war, the X-men seem to be the only group who could make some sort of registration ruckus.

Al from Italy

July 8, 2008 at 1:50 am

That’s not Cyclops, for me. And he has a hat (like Ben Urich)

14 posts before some ***** posted an anti “obligatory anti-Quesada/nuMarvel sux comment”.

Apologists are apologizing before they are attacked. I apologize for you being offended by what I said, whatever it may be or might have been,

Perhaps it is an attempt to steal from the Sin City look in order to boost a Marvel project. Wouldn’t be the first time Marvel stole ideas, nor the last. The biggest fish in the pond does whatever it likes.

@ Al from Italy:

The original promo had a tiny “X” on the glasses and the other promo (the female with green eyes) had an “X” on it too.

It really seems to be pointing towards an X-related something.

My general thoughts are … “Axel Alonso comes up with something I don’t like.”

I seem to remember that one of these images was in CBR’s coverage of the Ultimate universe panel at Wizard World Chicago. I wondered at the time whether that was a mistake, or if Marvel had just been teasing the project at every panel, or if it in fact meant there was an Ultimate connection.

Given the rumors that Ultimate X-Men may be on the chopping block, maybe this points to a relaunch of that book? Either just a new creative direction, or maybe taking the mutants out of the Ultimate universe and keeping the new book self-contained?

Of course, none of that explains why Cyclops needs a gun.

There’s something funny about cigarettes and cigars not appearing on Marvel covers or inside books because they are too dangerous, but handguns are okay. I’m not anti-gun by any means, I just think it’s funny that smoking is considered more harmful than guns.

Ryan the Iowan

July 8, 2008 at 7:10 am

I’m fairly certain that this has to do with X-men or, at the very least, that is what Marvel wants people to think for now.

At Marvel’s booth during Wizard World, “Mystery Project”‘s artist Dennis Calero was rapidly sketching for anyone and everyone. He was calling out character names, producing a sketch, and handing it out. At several points he asked if someone wanted the main character of the “Mystery Project” and, from what I understand, he drew Wolverine almost every time, though my fiancee thinks she also saw him draw Collossus.

Take that for what its worth.

Toxic C. Horse

July 8, 2008 at 7:36 am

You guys remember the ads for the Combo snacks where there was a bunch of stuff from random characters? Maybe that’s what this is. A crossover centered around Combo rolls.

fourthworlder

July 8, 2008 at 7:59 am

Just give him a Hostess Twinkie with its sweet creamy filling, quickly….

– or… –

Its a cross-over event with DC featuring the Brotherhood of Dada, and this time, Mr. Nobody is PISSED…

Western of M

Question: Could that not be Daredevil? Red glasses and the obscured right hand could be holding a cane? Just throwing out something…

I defintely think that it is Daredevil and not Cyclops. The glasses look a lot like the generic blind guy glasses that Daredevil has worn in the past. On top of that, he appears to be holding some sort of stick right in front of his face in the picture. So as far as this ONE picture appears to me, Daredevil.

“Nah, it made perfect sense in the context of the story. Commenting on something you haven’t read?

That’s dumb ;)”

The only way it could make perfect sense in the context of the story, is if there was some reason his optic blast would have been ineffective. In which case, that’s different from what I suggested, initially. AKA, insignificant to the argument.

Also, there’s nothing dumb about commenting on what someone (YOU) told me about something. Not only is that definitely something I have read (your post), but it’s totally informed.

I’m saying, “Here’s what I think of what you have just told me about.” I’m not saying “That’s good” or “That’s bad”. I’m saying, “That sounds dumb.”

And please, put your smilies away. It’s embarrassing for everyone.

Mike Loughlin

July 8, 2008 at 1:08 pm

I’m 99% sure the object is a gun, based on how it is being held (index finger extended, as if on a trigger).

I don’t think it’s Daredevil, maybe it’s Cyclops… hell, Wonder Man wears red sunglasses, maybe it’s dark ‘n’ gritty Wonder Man. No? Okay, it’s probably Cyclops.

Doesn’t seem tough to figure out. The mutants have been re-established as the outsiders once again in Marvel, outside of the civil war and the registration battle, and the X-Men under Cyclops have moved from the standard superheroism we saw at the beginning of Astonishing to identity-based guerilla actions and X-Force assassinations of bad mutants. I assumed that Cyclops would be revealed as a Skrull considering what a murderous chieftain he’s become, but barring that, these ads just present a new storyline following everything they’ve established so far.

Cyclops has a gun because he doesn’t want to give away that he’s a mutant, summoning more adversity than his power can deal with, and instead has chosen to confront evil as a non-mutant. I’m surprised there’s this much controversy over the meaning of “Nobody’s on our side.”

I don’t think the gun is supposed to be taken literally, as in “this event/storyline/whatever will involve the X-men shooting people” I’m thinking it’s an event where the X-men are finally not sidelined (MC doesn’t count). Maybe it has something to do with the Initiative, the government goes out to get mutants to work for them or else (Cyke already falsely disbanded the X-men to get them out of their backs), and the X-men oppose them, sort of Civil War 2: Mutant Style.

Whatever it is, from a marketing stand-point, it’s working…people are buzzing about it already (and i’m just as guilty lol)

ABoyNamedPosh

July 9, 2008 at 3:14 am

Apodaca –

Apologies for the grave offense of using a smiley, I just didn’t want it to seem like I was jumping down your throat with my comment, y’know? A little wink was a lot easier than rephrasing it to sound a bit more friendly.

That was my first post in this thread so I have no idea what the gibberish that comprises the rest of your comment is supposed to mean but hey, whatever.

You don’t know what it’s [b]supposed[/b] to mean?

I thought I was responding to one person, not two. Is that not obvious?

I don’t appreciate it when people make crass remarks and then tack a smiley on the end, to qualify it. If you’re gonna take potshots, own up to it.

“I don’t quite see the “Sin City style” art, though you’re not the first person to say that. Is it just because it is black and white with a dash of red and has guns? Other than that it does not look anything like Frank Miller’s style to me.”

That IS Frank Millar’s style! :D

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