For the love of god, just stop already. Lord knows I don’t agree with Brian on this particular issue, but, really. It’s getting to such a point where you are so far away from the original argument that it is not even germaine anymore. It’s now just a battle of wills. And you are stretching more that Mr. Fantastic for some of the analogies you are making.

Seriously, this has got to end.

Which is it: am I speaking gibberish, or are you claiming to have constructed a reasoned argument to invalidate something cogent I’ve said?

Which do you want: to live at Wallbrook, or to live with your brother Charlie Babbitt — because you can’t have both, Rainman.

Okay, then I’m done with you on this discussion if you’re not going to respond to it.

[Me] Might makes right, dude! ¶ Good luck not getting cut by the sword you validate and live by.

[Brian] This is not conversation – this is gibberish.

[Me] I referred to a saying I thought was common: Live by the sword; die by the sword. You’ve attempted to ridicule my expectation you would know it. Maybe there’s some kind of barrier to picking up references to it among the MTV- or whatever your generation.

The gibberish is that your points have nothing to do with the situation.

If you are being Honest™ why do you feel the need or the urge to make any case more than to inform me I’m incomprehensible, then let my incomprehensible statements stand on there own?

If, by definition of the word “gibberish,” I have no discernable agenda — then what is there to prevent me from doing?

Nor does a sampling of posters saying that they were telling the truth. As I already noted, certainly some posters WERE telling the truth – the vast majority clearly were NOT.

I noticed that you never replied to the Betty and Veronica Spectacular point, as you were far too busy tossing out trite adages to actually discuss the issue at hand.

If 200 people in one day reply to Bill Reed’s question of whether they liked the latest issue of Betty and Veronica Spectacular, you would take the position that it would be unfair to presume that the vast majority of those respondents were not answering based upon actually reading the issue?

If so, then, well, you’d be pretty darn wrong.

Amusingly enough, there actually IS an adage that explains my stance here regarding both the Betty and Veronica poll and the #11 poll, although nowadays it is more of a legal term than an adage – Res ipsa loquitur, which is Latin for “the thing speaks for itself.”

Like 200 poll replies in a day about whether people liked the latest Betty and Veronica Spectacular, 300 poll replies in one day on the #11 question as presented speaks for itself – it is false on the face, whether a smattering of the voters within were exceptions to the majority or not.

*Evidence of gibberish not by strawman

Might makes right, dude!Good luck not getting cut by the sword you validate and live by.

This is not conversation – this is gibberish.

I referred to a saying I thought was common: Live by the sword; die by the sword. You’ve attempted to ridicule my expectation you would know it. Maybe there’s some kind of barrier to picking up references to it among the MTV – or whatever your generation.

Then you went right back into tossing around a bunch of trite, meaningless statements presented as though they have some point to them.

Good luck not getting cut by the sword you validate and live by.

This is not conversation – this is gibberish.

Maybe how you’re handling the events of this thread instead demonstrates how you’re projecting, blaming your own insincerity on others.

I’m just reading all this crazy bile and venom and word-salad (and Hitler comparisons!?!?!) and I’m thinking; “This is a thread about COMICS! We ALL love comics. Can’t we all just get along?”

So the first thing that popped into my head was the Trek quote.

Personally, I have NO PROBLEM with WHATEVER you choose as your issue numbers.
Frankly, the entire process IS a bit skewed towards your own personal realm of knowledge and immediate fields of influence (the people that YOU originally asked knew of the Deadpool story, and so it became a viable choice).

The “vote” was an unfortunate misstep.
In this “IDOL” world of ours and the multiple phone-in/text voting structures that they contain, did you think that no one would vote multiple times?

I abstained from voting, because, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, neither of those issues leaps to mind (for the varied reasons that I offered) when I think of #11.
(Man-Thing v2 # 11 gets my nod)

If I had to choose based on what I felt was more VALID (between the three candidates) I would have said “Superman annual”, because even though I haven’t read it, I KNOW about it.
It has leaped PAST the realm of “personal experience” (ie; did or didn’t you read it) and entered the cultural zeitgeist (it’s been referred to elsewhere, and even had an episode of a popular show based on it).

Deadpool, while I DID read that issue, came across as a merely GOOD issue in a weird title’s run.
Honestly, writers/artists SHOULD be trying to achieve that more often than not, and the fact that this ONE story leaped out as being head and shoulders above the rest on the run, just marks an average run to my mind.
Nothing in the story was lasting or permanent. Making it essentially a “What if” type of thing.
Fun to read, but far from influential or special.
It was COOL, sure. But hardly the one #11 issue that I’d take to a desert island.

And, poor Beast.
I have and read that issue of Amazing Adventures, but still… to me, it’s a costume change.
I love the blue and furry Beast. He’s fun!
But his accidental drug interaction that mutated him further isn’t any more “important” to me than that time they gave DR STRANGE a full face-mask and super-hero costume.
So, that issue doesn’t strike me as all that “Special”.
(The price guides DO, however, but I’m not interested in that.)

BUT, and this is the point; It’s YOUR COLUMN!
YOU get to make the call.

Sure, you tried to make it a democratic process, and when faced with what you took as “voter fraud” (it could even have been ONE GUY making a hundred votes) it basically invalidated the ENTIRE PROCESS.

Without going in and checking ISP addresses and such, there’s no way to determine the depth of the fraud, and as such the only logical answer is to VOID THE VOTE.

A re-vote would be called for in an election (unless it happens in Florida), but barring that, it all gets tossed out.

So, DEADPOOL # 11 it is.

No big whoop.

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PTOR

It could even be argued that this is the most notable DC issue of the last 22 years, as almost every DC universe story that came after it was effected. At least until Superboy started punching walls.

Or, alternately, if you mess with the bull, you get the horns!

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander!

A stitch in time saves nine!!

“Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra”.

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PTOR