Comments on: Comics Should Be Good Top 50 Countdown! - #44

By: Craig

Craig — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:22:09 +0000

Excellent choice here. Plenty of important books, but I couldn't tell you which issue of Tales to Astonish features the first appearance of Wasp, just that it happened in that book. Judas Contract is just that much more memorable by number alone.

By: RichYan33

RichYan33 — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:07:51 +0000

What is the "Ron Frenz rule"? Does that mean skin tight costumes with nothing hanging loose?

By: Pedro BouÃ§a

Pedro BouÃ§a — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:01:05 +0000

I love Perez, but a great costume designer he is not! Deathstroke wasn't that bad, although for a merc with over-the-top weapons the original Taskmaster was better (doesn't hold a candle to te later Taskmaster costume, though). The Nightwing uniform was bad, but the Jericho one was truly TERRIBLE!

Best,
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)

By: Richard

Richard — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:40:54 +0000

FF 44 is noteworthy for a far more important reason than the introduction of Gorgon.

It's Joe Sinnott's first issue as the regular inker. A real turning point for the series.

By: Jeff Ryan

Jeff Ryan — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:56:04 +0000

Quasar #44 had him deal with a character fromt he New universe called antibody, who became enormously powerful in the 616 dimension. (Apparently both worlds had a connection to the Darkforce world, but the 616 Earth's is stronger.) This story is comically notable becuase it simply ends -- because ANOTHER Darkforce villain, Darkling, was using all the energy over in New Warriors. A weird crossover of sorts, and one that I don't think was even mentioned in the New Warriors comic!

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:03:54 +0000

Was that meant to be a blank comment, Walid?

By: wwk5d

wwk5d — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:43:12 +0000

By: Joe

Joe — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:46:18 +0000

Really Apodaca? You think the pirate boots is worse than that awful vest and golden cuffs? At least with that mask Deathstroke looks like he's ready to kill. Jericho looks like he's ready to try out for a part in the Pirates of Penzance.

By: kidseven

kidseven — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:54:51 +0000

Just figured out the icon thing!

By: Alonso

Alonso — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:49:39 +0000

Gah! I knew I'd forgotten one. That one's one of the worst. Oh, and Pariah from Crisis.

Perez is like the anti-Kirby in designing costumes. You know it's him just by looking at it...but you're not happy at all about it.

By: Daniel O' Dreams

Daniel O' Dreams — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:02:10 +0000

Yeah remember Donna Troys FIRST Troia costume? Or has the therapy allowed you to forget?
Great illustrator... terrible costume designer...

By: Alonso

Alonso — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:27:49 +0000

Nightwing's is the only one that doesn't break the Ron Frenz Rule. (How you like that Cronin?) His though is horribly dated.

Can we all agree that George Perez is a horrible costume designer, over-all? If you're on the fence, toss in the Monitor and Harbinger.

See?

By: buttler

buttler — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:16:39 +0000

I nominate Jericho to head the (very short) list of Characters Most Likely to Benefit from a Rob Liefeld Redesign

By: Dan K

Dan K — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:09:15 +0000

You dont see enough mutton chops in comics. Kudos.

By: buttler

buttler — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:37:17 +0000

I feel like I've had a peek into Apodaca's closet just reading that last couple sentences.

By: Apodaca

Apodaca — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:34:04 +0000

I'm gonna draw fire and say that Deathstroke's outift is the worst. Atrocious colors, ugly buccaneer boots and gloves, and dorky choker-collar.

The only real problem with Jericho's outfit is the purple coloring. The design isn't THAT terrible.

By: The Mutt

The Mutt — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:11:28 +0000

Hitman #44. The first appearance of Scarback. Dinosaurs in Gotham City!

By: Jeff R.

Jeff R. — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:50:36 +0000

The Swamp Thing issue here is particularly appropriate for this list, since it features the serial killer the Bogeyman and his 'pick a number' schtick...

Legion of Super-Heroes (v2) 44 was the final appearance of Quislet.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:40:27 +0000

Nightwing's outfit wouldn't have been THAT bad if it wasn't for the horrible collar. I actually think it's a better design than his second outfit (the one he was wearing around Knightfall) since the yellow's minimalised, but of course neither can hold a candle to the current uniform that's probably been around for longer than the other two combined at this point. Deathstroke's was about the most badass uniform in comics at the time (and the colours were deliberate in the sense that they were ones that printed very well). He was a better version of Snake Eyes before Snake Eyes was cool. And as history has shown, having his costume drawn in more muted colours (I think it was blue and grey for a while - at least, that's what it was when he showed up early on in Nightwing) doesn't really work. Jericho... I'm still not sure what Perez was thinking with that design. But, yeah, no quibbles with this one - probably the most famous issue of DC's biggest book of the early 80s. And while #38's the most famous issue of NTT ("Who is Donna Troy"), that wasn't going to win. Other Titans issue in consideration for me would be #8 - the "day in the life" issue, and #19, the "Wally writes home" issue that a lot of creators cite as their favourite.

By: buttler

buttler — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:39:34 +0000

Yeah, I'd have to give it to Jericho, which is impressive given Dick's egregious disco collar.

I'd forgotten this title even existed. Not the story, which of course I remember, but the renamed series, even though I continued reading it for a little while after the title shift (almost exactly as long as Perez stuck around).