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Comics Should Be Good Top 50 Countdown! – #9

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Avengers #9

This was a really tough one. The first issue that popped into my head when thinking of #9 was Avengers #9, and ultimately, that is what I am going with, but boy, did I try wracking my brain to see if I could find a better choice than the first appearance of Wonder Man. However, in the end, I think it just stood out well enough that it edged out a handful of quality alternatives.

As far as comic book history goes, Strange Adventures #9 would most likely take the cake, with the first appearance of Captain Comet. The 1951 issue is a strange aberration – a superhero comic during a time when superhero comics just weren’t being launched, and a good four years before the Silver Age began. Yet there he was – a pretty standard superhero. Except, of course, that the good Captain was also the very first MUTANT superhero!

Heady stuff, right?

However, no one really remembers where he first debuted – people barely remember Captain Comet as it is.

Another memorable first appearance is Electro in Amazing Spider-Man #9. This one is a bit stronger of a case, as Electro is probably more famous than Wonder Man, but I dunno – I think the story of the fake hero sacrificing himself in the end, I think Wonder Man’s debut is a more famous issue, overall.

Lois Lane made her first appearance as a featured character in Showcase #9, which IS pretty darn notable, except no one, well, noted it.

Fantastic Four #9 was a great issue involving Namor kicking the FF out of their home.

In Quasar #9, Mark Gruenwald spent 8 pages explaining away a continuity mistake in Millie the Model #57.

Any other great #9s?

I don’t think so, so in the end, Stan Lee, Don Heck and Dick Ayers’ impressive work in Avengers #9 is the top dog!


Miracleman #9, “Scenes from the Nativity,” is the one which carried a warning on the cover because it contained graphic scenes of childbirth.Perhaps not as important as Avengers #9, but more memorable in my book. I doubt anyone who’s read it will forget it.

Tom Fitzpatrick

July 17, 2008 at 5:11 am

Sorry Mr. Cronin, but I’m afraid that I must agree with Dan K.

Miracleman # 9 should have been Showcased, not Avengers # 9.

BTW, you should note, that lots of people might not have read comics from the 40’s, 50’s, 60’s, and 70’s, as unless they have been collected into ESSENTIALS or ARCHIVES collections, some of these books you’ve been mentioning might not mean as much to the younger generation as to the older generation.

Just a point worth mentioning.

Matt Lazorwitz

July 17, 2008 at 5:37 am

Sandman #9 is “Tales in the Sand,” the African folk tale issue. It sets up a lot of the events to happen later in the series, and is the first issue where Gaiman really focuses exclusively on an established myth system (excepting possibly, I suppose, the issue set in hell, but that’s more of a background to Dream’s tale then the focus).

In addition to fixing the continuitu problem of Minnie the Model (ahem), Quasar #9 ALSO introduced a new version of MODOK…MODAM. Yes, a female MODOM. The phrase “lipstick on a pig” pretty much nails the visual. (And an appropriate villain for the Marvel acronym top-five list!)

Huh. Wonder Man, the sensational character find of . . . never. I mean, I like Simon, especially in his buddy days with the Beast, but he’s hard to get excited about. It’s always nice to see the old Masters of Evil, but I’m unconvinced.

Captain Comet’s a good one, but for me it’s got to be Justice League of America #9, which told the origin of the JLA for the first time. (You know, the one where they turn into trees,) Now, that’s a classic.

So tsk, I say. Tsk!

Also number 9, number 9: The first appearances of the Black Terror in Exciting Comics and John Kowalski(!) in War Is Hell.


No ONE is going to mentioned Preacher #9? Part two of “All in the Family”? Where we get Jesse’s story about his upbringing?


I am with Brian on this one. This is the first #9 I thought of when I saw the title.
I love the Miracleman story and it is great, but this Avengers story has the seeds of just about everything that ends up getting down with the Vision (who is one of the most important and compelling Avengers), and it ends up being referenced/re-examined/revisited way more times in Marvel comics history. The Wonder Man story is way more clunky, it’s true, and lord knows the Internet hates on Wonder Man, but the events of this story have more consequence in terms of comic book history.

Even though I think that the Miracleman story is great, it’s not something that has been picked up on by other creators. The images might have been “shocking” in their day, but in all they’re just realistic pictures of what birth looks like. Although that might not be commonly seen in comics, and some might be put off by the depiction of genitalia and fluids, that doesn’t make it all that monumental in my book. You can see that stuff in medical books and (more or less) on the Discovery Channel. And that scene didn’t really become something we’ve really seen done elsewhere since. What really stood out to me was that Moore had shown us what it would be like for a superhero to have a child in a way that was not soo squeaky clean or easy as a Aquababy or Wondetot. Then he turned that convention on its head with what Winter became. But that was later. Long story short (too late): it’s a memorable moment, but does not have as long-lasting effects.

Two other things: if the young’ins don’t know some of these characters, that’s ok. I like when I learn about Deadpool or other newer comics I don’t read. That’s kind of the point of this blog, yeah? To show us stuff we might not typically see or know about? But I agee that history should look at the recent past as well.

And something Tom Fitzpatricksaid above made me wonder: how many people have read a book that has been out of print for more than 10-15 years? Would the “kids” really be all that familiar with Miracleman except to know it’s all tied up in legal issues?

Miracleman # 9 should have been Showcased, not Avengers # 9.

I’d third (or fourth) that motion.

I don’t even think Avengers 9 rates as the most memorable team book issue 9: Justice League of America 9 features the secret origin of the JLA!

How much of the spare-parts thing with the Vision still holds water, anyway? I mean, it was easier to buy the “left elbow of the Human Torch, nose of Wonder Man, knee of a Rigellian Recorder” thing when all his organ donors weren’t running around as well.

I’ll buy this one on the criterion of what Brian thinks of when he thinks of number 9, but it doesn’t come close to the JLA origin in terms of stories that have been revisited and retold over time. Maybe after FInal Crisis they’ll retcon it so that Firestorm and Vixen are founding members.

I’m also on Team Miracleman here, but…

Grendel #9 was the silent issue, years before Marvel tried that gimmick for a spin.

New Teen Titans (v2) #9 introduced Kole (although we’d seen here in Crisis before then and she was going to die in that book before the origin story here finished up)

Warrior #9 contained the first of Alan Moore’s Warpsmith stories.

and Spawn #9 was Neil Gaiman’s guest-writer issue, which introduced Angela and would be a focus of the McFarlaine/Gaiman legal battles…

Definitely the first 9 I thought of. But then my first comic EVER was the Marvel Saga that represented this issue, so it’s got value to me.

I’m completely with Brian here – it was the first #9 I thought of, although the JLA issue makes a strong case, too. But Wonder Man was pretty darn significant – arrived and died in first issue, served as part of basis for another major character years later, then came back on his own and has been a major Avengers character with one of the great buddy-hero relationships of all time. Definitely the right call here.

Why should Brian show any love to a publsiher other than Marvel. After all, isnt Marvel the only publisher of comic books?

Of course the JLA origin story should be here, but any one who tends to read more DC than Marvel and sees these lists, knows that is not going to happen.

I agree with this choice as well as the case for Miracleman 9.

While it’s not in that league, I’d also mention John Byrne’s Superman no. 9 as one of the most memorable issues of his run, not just for a pretty cool fight with the Joker but also the back-up Luthor story (featuring some really unsettling psychological torture) that made quite a splash with fans back in the day.

Wonderman is also noteworthy (IMHO) as one of the first throw-away characters to be brought back for a major push.

The only earlier example I can think of is Joker.


MODAM first appeared in Quasar? Huh.

Why should Brian show any love to a publsiher other than Marvel. After all, isnt Marvel the only publisher of comic books?

Of course the JLA origin story should be here, but any one who tends to read more DC than Marvel and sees these lists, knows that is not going to happen.

Marvel books on the list – 10

DC books on the list – 11


I appreciate the insult and apologize for not doing my research.

Nah, it’s cool – I shouldn’t have been so irked. I mean, don’t get me wrong, you can imagine how the complaint was pretty annoying (I wasn’t even counting the two #34s! With them, it’d be 12-10), but that’s no call for going to such a harsh insult.

So I accept your apology and offer up one of my own.

In the spirit of peace and conconciliation that’s now reigning, I’d just like to say that while i consider the JLA story more important/memorable, I will say that as a character Wonder Man is marginally cooler than the Appelexian aliens.

Except maybe the rock guy. Nothing beats rock.

I’d suggest Batman #9, just for the iconic statement of the cover alone:

I actually considered giving that an honorable mention, Scott, just for that cover! But the interiors just aren’t that interesting at all.

I think the intro of Angela in #9 of Spawn is a bigger deal than the intro of Wonder Man.
If nothing else, there’s far more action figures of Angela.

There never was a Party Time Simon figure, after all.


July 17, 2008 at 6:38 pm

Is the Quasar #9 thing a gag, or did he really do it?

I mean it made me laugh, but Gruenwald did always have a bit of Roy Thomas in him.

By the by, there really is a good reason why Marvel WOULD be more represented on this list than DC – Marvel usually places a higher premium upon the importance of their individual issues.

It is a gag, Funky.


July 17, 2008 at 10:56 pm

Yeah, I became pretty certain once I hit ‘Publish’.

Spawn 9 stands out in my mind, much stronger than Miracleman and Sandman. Avengers 9 still takes the cake, though; another great choice, Brian.

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Would Spawn #9 be the easy pick now?

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