Comments on: Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed #164

By: R. J. Sterling

R. J. Sterling — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:17:01 +0000

Not so amusing for the frog, methinks.

By: ParanoidObsessive

ParanoidObsessive — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:18:01 +0000

>>> If I have to hear about another person who â€œfinds something amusing,â€ rather than just â€œthinks itâ€™s funny,â€ Iâ€™ll punch a frog.

Oddly enough, I find the mental image of you punching a frog incredibly amusing.

By: Comics Should Be Good! » Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed History II

Comics Should Be Good! » Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed History II — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:09:31 +0000

[...] intended to be gay. Grant Morrison ghost-wrote an issue of Mark Millarâ€™s The Authority. #164 - A female characterâ€™s genitalia was exposed in an issue of Action Comics. Longshot was going to have a follow-up mini-series by Ann Nocenti and Art Adams. To make a point, [...]

By: Nick Pitter

Nick Pitter — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:52:06 +0000

OM wrote:
"â€¦No, but you *can* tell that sheâ€™s made it impossible to tell whether the curtains match the drapes "

Aren't curtains and drapes the same thing?

By: J. Morgan "Bat" Neal

J. Morgan "Bat" Neal — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:13:24 +0000

OM: Yet, Nocenti's and JRjr's DD out sold Miller's DD.

And methinks acidhag and Jono11 need to go to a relaxing spa. I find it amusing that they find such things so hard to take. Bottom line: Learn to laugh at the world rather than let it get to you. If people want to embarrass themselves, let 'em. It's a hoot.

And quick poll. Who did more damage to Star Trek? Richard Arnold, Rick Berman or...Gene Roddenberry?

JMN

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:36:32 +0000

Longshot was an expensive book BECAUSE it did not sell that well.

Lower sales = Lower supply = Higher prices on the secondary market.

Compare the price of, say, Peter Parker: Spider-Man (Vol. 2) #15 with Spider-Man #15 (no importance to those numbers besides I know the former issue sold a LOT less than the latter issue, but after a quick visit to Mile High Comics, I see the former is selling for almost double the price of the latter).

By: McDracula

McDracula — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:25:26 +0000

As for Longshot's "low sales" ... this book was a hot item upon its release and stayed that way for several years. By the beginning of 1987 the first and last issues regularly sold for $15, while the other four averaged $10 each. I had a tough (and expensive) time trying to complete this series as a kid. And because the first issue is labeled Part 1 of 6, Longshot's sales CLEARLY wasn't the factor in making it a limited series.

By: wwk5d

wwk5d — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:49:08 +0000

Edited as in, they made the character a resurrected British pop-star instead...who also had the same hair style as Diana, but also supported the same charities as Diana as well (AIDS, landmines)...this was during the Milligan era.

By: Jono11

Jono11 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:45:32 +0000

[quote]I donâ€™t know about the MLK thing, but an storyline featuring the resurrection of (and joining of X-force) of Princess Diana was heavily editedâ€¦[/quote]Edited how?

By: MarkAndrew

MarkAndrew — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:19:03 +0000

You guys who say the first of this weekâ€™s items is lame and unworthy of discussion are being kind of dicky.

Yeah. but somebody says that every week. COMIC URBAN LEGEND: Dan Didio is actually Jack Kirby's Love Child! STATUS: True

Todays legend is stupid. It doesn't even talk about Dazzler at all! Who cares!

By: wwk5d

wwk5d — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:49:33 +0000

I don't know about the MLK thing, but an storyline featuring the resurrection of (and joining of X-force) of Princess Diana was heavily edited...

By: Jono11

Jono11 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:30:03 +0000

1) I agree with the "methinks" restriction. That, and all other nerd-language appropriated from an imagined caricature of the Middle Ages, or from a pathetic grasping at eloquence. If I have to hear about another person who "finds something amusing," rather than just "thinks it's funny," I'll punch a frog. 2) Urban Legend: An issue of X-Force was cancelled for dealing with the resurrection of Martin Luther King, Jr.

By: acidhag

acidhag — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:47:47 +0000

Backtards.

By: R. J. Sterling

R. J. Sterling — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:23:49 +0000

Longtime listener, first-time caller. You guys who say the first of this week's items is lame and unworthy of discussion are being kind of dicky. Seriously, Cronin cranks these out week after week, and (a) he's doing this for fun, right? Doesn't he have to work at a job to earn a living? He's not getting paid, right? You ought to be grateful merely for the fact he keeps to that schedule; (b) he covers a minimum of three every week, so how long do you suppose he can maintain such a pace and not run clean out of "urban legends" to write about? Try doing this kind of thing your ownself and see how long you can keep it up. Be grateful he does anything for your enjoyment at all. Of course, if this is his full-time job and he gets paid, never mind. On another topic, how many of you people in your comments discussing publishing rights or whatever say "revert BACK"? "Revert" means "turn back", so when you say "revert BACK", you're saying "turn back back". That's redundant. Stop it. Same goes for "report" and "reflect". The prefix "re-" means back. JUST SAY "REVERT".

By: Joe Young

Joe Young — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:27:35 +0000

The whole vagina is showing thing is prevalent outside of comics as well. A few years ago, some guy called into the Stern show talking about how Jennifer Aniston had a cameltoe in a photo in some celebrity list. I looked the next time I was at a magazine stand, and it was quite clearly a fold in her shorts (one of many) and not in any way a camel toe. People's imaginations run away with them.

By: edc

edc — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:47:49 +0000

this is anonymous from before, sorry for the mixup OM, maybe byrne was posting under doomMD - the capitals must've been what I was zeroed in on.

so if you aren't Byrne, I might hafta start actually reading your comments instead of passing them.

By: acidhag

acidhag — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:55:03 +0000

It's 'gina, 'cause I know she had it on her. Hey, can we impose a mandatory "methinks" restriction? I wanna take a hostage everytime I see that.

By: Lucius

Lucius — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:31:04 +0000

Richard Arnold...ugh. Never was there a more useless individual attached to the Star Trek franchise. He did ONLY damage to Star Trek, always claiming to be acting on Roddenberry's behalf when in fact he was pushing his own warped, ill-informed and nearsighted vision of the Trek universe. He's always a complete jerk to fans at conventions, and he was a nightmare to those who wrote books and comics during his tenure. That he even gets invited to conventions anymore is absurd--he has NOTHING to contribute to fandom, and never did.

By: OM

OM — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:42:31 +0000

"well, OM did respond, and some people at â€˜ama implied the he was Byrne.."

...HAW! Now *that's* a new one! For the record, I'm *not* John Byrne. I am an asshole, where Byrne is just a jerk

...For those who weren't born...er..around when "Melakon" was destroying the Trek literary franchise, here's a few links to help catch everyone up on all the dirt on the dirtbag. We'll start off with one recent example of how he still puts the "dip" in "dipshit" where it comes to what he thinks is Trek "Canon":

http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/23/arnold-defends-roddenberrys-universe-says-trek-needs-new-blood/

...A great listing of Trek books that never were can be found here. Note that quite a few of these were canned during the Arnold Dictatorship:

http://www.well.com/~sjroby/lostbooks.html

...In one of the earliest examples of Trek Fandom embracing computer networks to voice their protests, "Melakon" gave Usenet's Tim Lynch an interview to tell his "side" of the story:

Part 1: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.startrek/browse_thread/thread/6aa057ad1c473b62
Part 2: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.startrek/browse_thread/thread/8c16df5cd313e7fa/dc6376ffa5c85817?lnk=gst&q=richard+arnold%3A+the+interview#dc6376ffa5c85817
Part 3: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.startrek/browse_thread/thread/a7ef365dda7bbe1c/2d74055cfb69929b?lnk=gst&q=richard+arnold%3A+the+interview#2d74055cfb69929b
Part 4: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.startrek/browse_thread/thread/15ba821369124f67/78a27957cc3ab32a?lnk=gst&q=richard+arnold%3A+the+interview#78a27957cc3ab32a
Part 5: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.startrek/browse_thread/thread/18d9d6188ca77aca/541a8f9149e8f62e?lnk=gst&q=richard+arnold%3A+the+interview#541a8f9149e8f62e

...For the short-attention spanners out there, here's the highlights:

http://www.canonwars.com/STCanonquotes-Arnold.html

...Here's a 2002 Newsarama thread where the Arnold debacle was discussed, with PAD's comments here and there:

http://forum.newsarama.com/archive/index.php/t-1005.html

....There's probably a few more tirades against the schmuck out there - and some of them are probably by me, natch - but that should be enough to fill in all the gaps. Enjoy!

By: AlexR

AlexR — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:36:48 +0000

You look at Rob Liefeld's earlier stuff you can see that same Longshot pose on Longshot #1. I'm not knocking him, Art Adams is the guy you want to rip of... be influenced by. Do what works.