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Comics Should Be Good Top 50 Countdown! – #15

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Amazing Fantasy #15

I think many comic book fans remember Miracleman #15, and the extremely bloody fight that took place in that issue – a forebear for any number of modern day “realistic” superhero fights.

Showcase #15 gave us Space Ranger!

A certain book about an Amazing Spider-Man gave us the first appearance of Kraven the Hunter, who would go on to become a major Spider-Man villain!

Marvel Premiere #15 was the first appearance of Danny Rand, also known as Iron Fist!!

However, we all know that Amazing Fantasy #15 has to be the pick, for the debut of a cool new young hero.

Amadeus Cho!



Oh, volume ONE!! My bad!

Yeah, Amazing Fantasy #15 had a really cool story by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko about Martians.

Okay, it also had a story by those two creators about young Peter Parker, who learns the hard way that with great power comes great responsibility, as he becomes Spider-Man, one of the most famous superheroes of all time.

Now, if he carried around a little puppy, then they’d REALLY have had something!!


Tom Fitzpatrick

July 22, 2008 at 5:24 am

I don’t know, Miracleman # 15 had a specific ending that was never done before in the history of comics (with or without the comic code authority).

Gaiman had a similiar ending in his Eternals mini-series.(mostly as a homage to Moore, I’m sure).

You had me. I scrolled down and saw Cho’s first appearance, and almost did a spit-take. :)

“Marvel´s six newest sensations”. Yeah, right.

But it was retconned to really be Deadpool, not Peter Parker.

Oh, Quasar #15 features Rocket Racoon!


First of all I owe an apology for posting this here. I’m referring back to the choice of Captain Marvel at no.2 over Judge Dredd. I was on holiday when this came out and so by the time I saw it everyone had moved on and I had been waiting ages to say my piece fully expecting Capt Marvel to get the call.
Now given this is a list from America awarding Capt Marvel higher priority would seem to be fair enough – but I still call outrage. Judge Dredd is the single most significant character in what is arguably the single most significant comic ever.
How dare I suggest that 2000ad is the most significant comic ever? Ok I’ll try to justify why I think this and I’ll start with a list:
Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, Mark Millar, Alan Grant, John Wagner, Pat Mills, Pete Milligan, Garth Ennis… I could go on but each of these either got their break writing for 2000ad OR cut their teeth there.
Ok another list:
Brian Bolland, Carlos Ezquerra Bryan Talbot, Alan Davis, Dave Gibbons, Simon Bisley, Jamie Hewlett, Sean Phillips, Kev O’Neill again I could go on but each of those either got their big artistic break, or 2000ad played a big part in their development into the craft. Again I could list countless others.
2000ad (and its stable of comics) has been the creative outlet for a staggering number of top talent working in American comics today. Almost all of these have worked as part of that their development on Judge Dredd at one time or another. That’s why I think 2000ad is probably the single most important comic book ever – more important than Action Comics, or Detective, or Fantastic Four, or Swamp Thing or Sandman.
Ok so even taking aside the issue of America bias (I should of course at this point apologise for my hypocrisy as I’m clearly demonstrating my own bias here but hey sorry and all! Should I not be talking about Pilote, Heavy Metal etc etc?) 2000ad and Judge Dredd has helped create a stable of creators unmatched by any other title.
That is why I think its such shame that 2000ad 2 didn’t get the nod over the comic that introduced a significant but not that significant character.
Oh and it came with free Bionic transfers that frankly were much more cool that the Space Spinner you got with issue 1!

Yes. Obviously Amadeus Cho will be a force to be reckoned with… for I dunno… five seconds? :lol

Hmm, memorable, huh? It seems to me that I knew who this Spider-Man guy was, but somehow I just . . . forgot. And was he married, maybe? Hmm, I guess not. I don’t know what I was thinking.

And actually, everybody was kung fu fighting at number 15 — not only Iron Fist in Marvel Premiere, but Shang-Chi, Master of Kung Fu, first showed up in Marvel Special Edition #15.

And yes, as you say, Space Ranger! He was pretty cool, and had a sweet helmet. Also Brainwave back in All-Star Comics. But the real sensational character find of #15 was Doctor Bong in Howard the Duck.

…I like Amadeus Cho.

25 would have been another possible place to give 2000AD its props, since that’s the first ‘Tharg’s Future Shocks’, which was the feature that almost all of those names actually made their debut on. And a dead Captain America would have been easier to justify booting than Captain Marvel.

An Also-ran for 15 from my usual suspects:

Mage:The Hero Discovered wrapped up there in an issue that contained a gorgeous four-page fold-out splash. It was a fairly big deal in and of itself, being the one of the first long-form limited series to reach its conclusion.

Re: Colin – I think the choice of Captain Marvel over Judge Dredd had nothing to do with the quality of either title they debuted in or the number of creators to have gotten their start working on the book, but more to do with the importance of the Captain Marvel and Judge Dredd characters. In that case you could argue Judge Dredd is better known than Captain Marvel at least because of the 1994 film, but in terms of influence and history in the comic industry, Captain Marvel won out. No reflection on either title to have birthed the character (although it that were solely the criterion, Judge Dredd would have surely gotten the nod).

Anyway, for some reason I scrolled down slower than usual today so the Amadeus Cho bit was a funny surprise. Good one.

Have a good day.
John Cage

I would rather re-read Miracleman #15 than Amazing Fantasy #15, but Brian’s absolutely dead-on right on this one.

Brian, you did a fine job of making a worthwhile read out of an open and shut case. Of course, your alternative article was the cover to AF #15 and two words.

“‘Nuff said!”


July 29, 2008 at 6:12 am

OBVIOUSLY, nothing is going to be more memorable than Amazing Fantasy # 15, but….

[b}Doctor Strange ; Sorcerer Supreme # 15[/b] was the infamous AMY GRANT lawsuit cover.
Was that the first time a celebrity had their face “misused” on a cover and filed a lawsuit about it?

It was the first time that I could recall ever having one of the (then new) comics in my hands also be featured on the evening news.


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