Comments on: Can There Be Such a Thing as “The Sensational Character Loss of 2008″?

By: Thok

Thok — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:35:18 +0000

So, when is Mr/Miss Sinister going to move into the body of an albino white gorilla?

By: Stefan

Stefan — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:13:20 +0000

I’m totally open to having a female version of Mr. Sinister running around… but I can’t understand why they didn’t take the opportunity to drop the name altogether. It’s always been silly. Appropriate for a kids cartoon, but sort of ridiculous for the kind of comics Carey’s writing.

By: Jbird

Jbird — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:00:44 +0000

Sure, why not? Mr. Sinister can be a chick as much as Loki can be a chick. They’ve just got to write it well, and looking at Legacy vs. the other X-titles right now, well, it can’t be THAT bad.

By: wwk5d

wwk5d — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:21:36 +0000

Dude, Morrison could reprint the phonebook, and people would call it the best thing ever! lol

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:54:26 +0000

It’s so terrible it’s awesome.

C’mon we’d all love it if it was Grant Morrison!

By: Matt D

Matt D — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:02:21 +0000

I know this is moot now but it’s not like it’s Sinister in a female form, like they did with Loki, or anything. It’s just his powers transferred into a female, that’s it. It’s not nearly as dumb as I thought it was going to be before reading the issue. He had a plan to save himself if something happened to him. She found a way to twist that plan so that she’d get his powers but not his mind. He tried to overcome that. He was thwarted. She wins. It’s convoluted but it’s not nearly as bad as I thought it’d be from the original post.

By: BizarroBeachHead

BizarroBeachHead — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:17:14 +0000

Oh man, Jeremy wins.

Mr Sinister = Goth drag queen.

Miss Sinister = Slightly more convincing goth drag queen.

By: Jacob T. Levy

Jacob T. Levy — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:16:45 +0000

I can’t even *read* the sentence â€œTheyâ€™ve ruined the character of Mr. Sinister!â€ with a straight face.

By: Diagnull

Diagnull — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:20:57 +0000

I suggest “honoring” Miss Sinister by calling it the Sensational Character *Miss* of 2008.

By: Blackjak

Blackjak — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:56:46 +0000

PTOR, sorry, I was just trying to come up with an opposite to “Character find”…

What is the opposite of a concept?

A death?

An abortion?

However if you are talking purely about this Mr/Ms Sinister concept, then surely it is a genuine Mutation of the concept?

By: SanctumSanctorumComix

SanctumSanctorumComix — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:50:34 +0000

Blackjak,

The word “character” makes no sense with this.

A more appropriate term would be “concept” ( as in: “conceptual misfire”).

Surely Sinister (in any incarnation) was never a CHARACTER, but more of a half-formed concept or just a visual with a “kewl” name.

~P~
PTOR

By: Blackjak

Blackjak — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:14:28 +0000

How about character assassination?

Character burial?

Character crucifixion?

Character devastation?

By: QuantumFX

QuantumFX — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:40:53 +0000

Ronald Moore (Battlestar Galactica) is now a consultant for Quesada.

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:36:42 +0000

Mr Sinister = Goth drag queen.

Miss Sinister = Slightly more convincing goth drag queen.

By: Al from Italy

Al from Italy — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:52:54 +0000

And next…

Sinister Girl
Sinister Woman (ex-Sinister Girl)
Sinister Lass

By: wwk5d

wwk5d — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:31:28 +0000

Actually, Sinister’s look and name work a bit better when you factor in Claremont’s originally intended origin for the character…(and I do mean a *bit*)…

By: David

David — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:26:00 +0000

This reminds of that issue of Guy Gardner Warrior where Guy gets turned into a woman!

By: ZZZ

ZZZ — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:24:19 +0000

You know, come to think of it, in the first Black Womb story in Gambit’s old series, Remy and a member of his supporting cast called the Courier, who was a shapeshifter, travel back in time to the 19th century, when Mr. Sinister was just Nathaniel Essex. The Courier shifts into a female form to infiltrate Essex’s obstetric clinic (between that sentence, the “Black Womb” thing, and the fact that the book starred freakin’ Gambit, it’s almost impossible to beleive, but the series was actually halfway decent!), gets captured and, thanks to Sinister’s experiments, gets stuck in his female form (s/he can still shapeshift, but his/her female form becomes the “default” one).

In other words, every time Gambit and Amanda Mueller (Black Womb) have a plotline together, someone gets gender switched.

By: Lynxara

Lynxara — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:39:07 +0000

@ZZZ:

… I have no idea what to say to that.

By: ZZZ

ZZZ — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:09:57 +0000

How about Miss Tersinister? I’m hoping for “Spinster Sinister.”

Remember when even Marvel decided “Mr. Sinister” was a lame name and tried just calling him “Sinister” for a while? I bet they do that with Miss Sinister if she ever becomes an important character.

For those who haven’t read it, the comic doesn’t make it clear exactly what Miss Sinister’s deal is, but it’s pretty clear she ISN’T Selene or Tessa (aka Sage). It would seem that she’s either a female clone of Mr. Sinister (like X-23) or Mr. Sinister transferred into a female body, and since she uses the word “cool” and seems somewhat deferential to Shaw, I’d guess clone.

And Lynxara: Black Womb wasn’t really a villain, more of a MacGuffin. She was a woman Sinister was using for his genetics research in the 19th century (and, I believe, Cyclops and Havok’s great-grandmother or something like that). People called her “Black Womb” because, due to Sinister’s experiments, she seemed to be having an inordinate number of miscarriages. She somehow became immortal and went on to become a geneticist herself and run the “Black Womb Project” with Professor X’s father and Juggernaut’s father and Sebastian Shaw’s father and pretty much every everyone’s father.