Comments on: Comics Should Be Good Top 50 Countdown! - #5

By: daniel

daniel — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:10:50 +0000

while none of these are more important than the first appearance of dr. doom, i have three #5's that top my list in terms of how great and rereadable they are: the infamous one punch issue of justice league, the first "talking with david" story in starman (hasn't been mentioned yet), and animal man #5, which not only mapped out the rest of grant morrison's infamous and spectacular run, but also had one of the ten greatest covers in comic history.

By: Not Quasar

Not Quasar — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:28:36 +0000

A good take on the Absorbing Man? Sounds like Earth-X series ripped off Quasar! (He pretty much absorbed everything including Ultron)

By: RichYan33

RichYan33 — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:27:26 +0000

Forget to 17 or top 10. This is Marvel's main bad guy. He and Lex Luthor are the alpha males of villians of their companies. No more phone calls please.

By: DanCJ

DanCJ — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:05:36 +0000

Grrrr.... Animal Man 5 is one of the best comics of all time and he was robbed. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I really wanted Animal Man 5 to get this slot

By: wwk5d

wwk5d — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:29:25 +0000

I'd argue he is Top 5, not just Top 17....

By: Jbird

Jbird — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:48:38 +0000

The FF #5 cover was in that big book of Marvel Comics' history with Spider-Man on the cover that was just called "MARVEL". It's burned into my brain.

By: Jeff R.

Jeff R. — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:57:47 +0000

#5 is a toughie. For lots of books it's the concluding part of the opening story arc (see: New Teen Titans (v2), Legion of Super-Heroes(v3), Advantageous Spider-Man).

It's a fairly popular final issue for DC implosion titles (Firestorm, Steel, and Doorway to the Unexpected).

Lost Girls started in Taboo #5.

By: Bill Reed

Bill Reed — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:57:12 +0000

This is one of the most ridiculously awesome single issues of all time. Time-travel! Pirates! Dr. Doom! It has everything.

By: JR

JR — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:22:07 +0000

Stealthwise:

Oddly enough that issue was Amazing Spider-Man #5 (a favorite of mine too), which gives Doom here at least two notable appearances in the fifth issue of a series.

By: Patrick Joseph

Patrick Joseph — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:10:23 +0000

mikesensei:

The net was electrified, you know! Which should have electrocuted the poor building, now that I think about it.

By: mikesensei

mikesensei — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:51:56 +0000

I first read this as a kid in "Bring On the Bad Guys," Stan the Man's second follow-up to "Origins of Marvel Comics." You neglect one of the silliest plot points in the story: Doc Doom gets the FF to capitulate by throwing a net over the Baxter Building. A net. Gosh, that building won't run away now! If I remember right, the net didn't even extend down to the first floor. Then Doom demands that Sue be turned over to him as a hostage, and they comply. Duh.

By: lorin helller

lorin helller — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:47:01 +0000

I could be wrong, but I think the 5th issue of JLI has the classic "One punch" confrontation between Guy Gardner and Batman. Certainly doesn't beat FF #5, but its up there.

By: KMFPL

KMFPL — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:24:21 +0000

"one of the seventeen best super-villains of all-time!!"

Oh no, Brian, you're not pulling me into that one again...

I just wanted to point out an important tidbit of history: not once in this story, does Dr. Doom cry.

By: Michael

Michael — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:45:56 +0000

I think there's a goofier plot point than that, and it's right in this issue: While impersonating a pirate, Ben originates the legend of Blackbeard. Yep, forget that Ed Teach guy, Blackbeard was actually the Thing dressed up in some goofy clothes and sporting a hybrid pirate/Yancy Street accent.

By: buttler

buttler — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:23:15 +0000

Other notable debuts at #5: the Shroud in Super-Villain Team-Up, Doctor Destiny in JLA, Manhunter (Mark Shaw) in 1st Issue Special, Liberty Legion in Invaders, the Black Marvel and the Blazing Skull in Mystic Comics (hey, there's apparently something going around with guys with flaming skulls), but most importantly, Bessie the Hellcow in Giant-Size Man-Thing.

Also pretty darned notable were Steve Gerber's covert abduction of Howard the Duck from the Mervel universe in Spider-Man Team-Up #5, and of course the famous "One punch!" clocking of Guy Gardner in Justice League #5. Those would be pretty strong arguments for breaking the FF streak if not for, you know, Doom.

By: stealthwise

stealthwise — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:22:34 +0000

I love that issue of Spider-Man where Doom decides to kidnap the webslinger for help against the Fantastic Four, only to mistakenly grab Flash Thompson. Marvel comics were just as goofy as DC stuff back in the day.

By: Jeff Ryan

Jeff Ryan — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:04:02 +0000

When was the last time you said, "Wow, that Absorbing Man, he really had a decent plan of attack." In Quasar #5, an Acts of Vengence crossover, the Quicker Picker-Upper attacks Quasar already with a chunk of Adamantuim in his hands, making him nigh-invulnerable. Even better, he uses that to touch the Quantum bands, making him on par with the Silver Surfer, power-wise! Alas, it's too much power, and he passes out or something from too much.

By: Patrick Joseph

Patrick Joseph — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:11:22 +0000

Perfect choice.

By: Danar

Danar — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:04:38 +0000

i love the fact that the computer put a pair of sunglasses before Kingpin. Obviously, he is the most fashionable villain on that list.

By: Bernard the Poet

Bernard the Poet — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:46:37 +0000

"one of the seventeen best super-villains of all-time!!"

Okay.
1) Dr Doom
2) Galactus
3) The Submariner
4) James Jonah Jameson
5) Dr Octopus
6) Green Goblin
7) Elektra
The Kingpin
9) Bullseye
10) Magneto
11) Lex Luthor
12) Darkseid
13) Black Adam
14) Deathstroke the Terminator
15) The Joker
16) The Penguin
17) Catwoman

Am I right, sir?