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SDCC Thoughts on the Return of the Milestone Heroes
- by Brian Cronin
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(I apologize for the multitude of posts, but I like to wait until San Diego Comic-Con is over before I sort out the news that strikes me most interesting, and I don't think a catch-all entry is cool with so many disparate stories)
Talk about a mixed reaction! On the one hand, I am a huge fan of Milestone Comics, so I am thrilled to hear that DC was able to work out a deal to bring the Milestone characters back to the world of comics. And with Milestone founder Dwayne McDuffie directly involved, to boot!!
THAT SAID, mixing them into the DC Universe?
Boy, am I wary about that.
Don't get me wrong, a bunch of the Milestone characters should be able to mix into the DC Universe without a real problem, with Static being the most notable example - his shtick works in any universe. The same goes, I would say, for Icon and Rocket.
But Blood Syndicate? Hardware? Holocaust? The Shadow Cabinet? These are concepts that scream out "isolated universe," much like the Marvel Family (who have never really been adequately integrated into the DC Universe, despite Jerry Ordway doing yeoman work for years to make the square peg fit into the round hole).
So I fear that some of the unique characters will lose their uniqueness a bit, but in the end, it is a return to comics of some great characters, so really, it's a secondary issue - Static is back! Woohoo!
- Posted on July 28, 2008 @ 02:06 AM






15 Comments
wwk5d
July 28, 2008 at 3:38 am
I think it depends on how DC plans on using them. If they're just being added to increase the diversity quotient, then that would suck. But, if they can make these characters mean something, and tell good stories, then it's good.
Jacob T. Levy
July 28, 2008 at 3:57 am
It'll be tricky, but not impossible. The heroic big three of Static, Icon, and Hardware actually seem to me pretty portable-- Static's book was never *about* the Big Bang and its world, and Icon, Rocket, and Hardware weren't bang babies at all. Their basic settings and premises have less to do with the Dakota continuity than they do with real life (e.g. high school, the corporate world).
Blood Syndicate and Shadow Cabinet seem to me much more problematic to import-- and I notice that no one's said anything about using the Blood Syndicate.
Brian Cronin
July 28, 2008 at 4:01 am
Hardware is not tied into the Big Bang, true, but I think he was tied a lot into the continuity of his book. In Dakota, his situation made him stand out. In the DC Universe, he really doesn't.
Matt D
July 28, 2008 at 5:07 am
I think what will work will stick around and what doesn't work as well might fade a bit.I also think that Captain Marvel works fine in the DCU except for, of course, the fact that he's been adapted pretty heavily to fit.
Craig
July 28, 2008 at 5:27 am
Right now, I'm just incredibly pumped that we're getting the returns of the Milestone characters. I trust Dwayne McDuffie to put the necessary arrangements in place to keep a certain modicum of control over the use of his characters. Although, this is going to make my goal of having every Milestone character appearance a bit harder to pull off (even though I'm at about 50% right now, with full runs of Xombi and Blood Syndicate).
Xombi! Man, that would be an awesome comeback, especially under the Vertigo banner. According to his blog, John Rozum's working on Scooby-Doo comics at DC, so he's already with the right company...
Matt D
July 28, 2008 at 5:51 am
My only concern is that the rights/creative controls issues will mess everything up within a couple of years and then there'll be a bunch of bad, bad stories that can't quite be referenced or lots of issues that are there solely to retcon things so they're not a mess or whatever.
Jeff Ryan
July 28, 2008 at 5:55 am
Go Static!
Scavenger
July 28, 2008 at 10:00 am
Gee, It's not like they're taking characters who had a meaning outside of just the stories and giving them to a bunch of white guys to write.
Oh? Static is joining the Teen Titans, by who?
Never mind.
Scavenger
July 28, 2008 at 10:06 am
Further, How many black teen-aged electricity users can one universe have?
(They've talked about Static's resemblence to Black Lighting...might as well just make them related anyway..not like they don't retcon in children and family members for BL every few months already).
And Steel vs Hardware...which is gonna get the shaft in usage?
buttler
July 28, 2008 at 10:27 am
Clearly, we need MORE black electricity-themed characters in the mainstream DCU. It's time to get Black Vulcan in there somehow.
Thenodrin
July 28, 2008 at 11:36 am
Black Vulcan is clearly different. His super power, in his own words, are: "Pure electricity ... in my pants."
Add me to the list of people who would love to see a Xombi Vertigo title.
And, allow me to disagree with Scavenger for a sec. He said, "Gee, It’s not like they’re taking characters who had a meaning outside of just the stories and giving them to a bunch of white guys to write."
First, I never saw the "meaning outside of just the stories." The whole "minority characters by minority creators" always bothered me. I just want to read good stories about good characters by good writers. I don't care what colour skin the creators have. Peter David could be an old balding jew, I'd still read his comics (that's a joke, BTW.)
Now, with that said, I like McDuffie's work both in comics and animation. And, I trust that if he is spearheading this project that the integration will be done well and with respect to the original stories.
Theno
Bill Reed
July 28, 2008 at 1:11 pm
I'd rather it just be Earth-9, or whatever.
sebastian
July 28, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Yeah, a Xombi book. I liked that series. Hell, if you want to get the kids into it, and have a Morrison-vibe (like the original), get that kid who wrote Umbrella Academy to write it. It'd be like printing money over there.
stealthwise
July 28, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Terrible, terrible idea. I'm still expecting them to fold Wildstorm into the DCU and be done with it.
Craig
July 29, 2008 at 5:53 am
"I just want to read good stories about good characters by good writers. I don’t care what colour skin the creators have."
Exactly, Thenodrin. That's what Milestone was about, when most companies were flashing "bad girls" and "superstar artists", but were leaving their stories riddled with the weak sauce. Milestone had complex, multidimensional characters (of all races) interacting with each other to tell great stories as drawn by solid artists. I look forward to Dwayne "The Maestro" McDuffie working his magic, even in just a supervisory role, on these characters in the near future.