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More About Gonzo Frank Miller Written, Other Person Drawn Comics- This Just Blew My Mind

And also left me quaking in bone chilling horror for a bit.

Apparently, Elektra: Assassin fits in to Marvel Continuity. Well, according to wikipedia, so disclaimer to have your salts at the ready. And it's a really tenuous connection. And the descriptions of the issues it supposedly ties in to are like tiny ice daggers in my veins.

But still; some guy who did an Avengers index supposedly says it ties together, according to some other guy on wikipedia. The idea that Elektra: Assassain is something that is supposed to have happened in the same universe a character named Umbu the Unliving exists in really freaks me out. I can't even rationally articulate why, other than that I've always written that story off as some crazy fever dream Miller had for Bill Sienkiewicz to draw. Which I will still do. I find continuity pretty malleable; my canon is pretty much only the stories I care about reading about. But it still freaks me out that people who care too much about this thing I onely deride consider one story as part of their canon. Weirdoes!

  • Posted on July 31, 2008 @ 08:35 PM

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Garrett, the cyborg from the mini, showed up in some fo the really lousy "Fall from Grace"-era DD books, which retconned his fate slightly. (The "becoming President Wind" thing was apparently just a hallucinatory "gift" from Elektra.)

Wait a minute... didn't part of that plot involve Ken Wind becoming President? So how does THAT fit into Marvel continuity? Unless he was the guy running the Secret Empire who blew his brains out in front of Captain America...

Oh God. Now you've got ME doing it.

Brad I agree there's no reason to shoe horn the story into continuity. If it must be, then I want Fury to use that enormous gun in every book he appears in.

Question: has Chastity shown up anywhere?

I think chastity was killed during the 60's with the free love movement, then buried with the 70's sexcapades.

Oh wait a second... were you asking about a comic book character?

Well... from what I have gathered, regarding this comic's place in continuity, is that it IS a sort of fever dream. It's got an unreliable narrator, mostly being seen through Garrett's eyes, so, while the comic is incontinuity, you can't necessarily say that any of the particulars "really" happened. Like, in Kraven's Last Hunt, Spidey's hallucinations were in continuity, but the events he saw did not happen. Except here, because of ninja magic, it's hard to tell what was real and what was not.

Besides, if Daredevil: Love and War happened, with its zeppelin sized Kingpin, why not this?

Also, here is where I tried to explain this comic to Nate Cosby:
http://www.marvel.com/blogs//entry/1048

I haven't read any of this stuff, so my reaction is Yes?

Remember the Garth Ennis Punisher issue, in the Marvel Knight's run (the pre-MAX series), where he asks Elektra out on a date? Ennis sort of puts Elektra in Marvel continuity here, by having Frank read about those events in Elektra's file. I vaguely remember his thought balloon or caption, it went something like:
"Most interesting of all is a badly compromised SHIELD operation from the 80s... It mentions (and this is Fury's people talking) telepathy, mind control..."
Great caption, however it went. Also a neat meta-moment, since from a creative standpoint that graphic novel really is the "most interesting" work she's been in; and by mentioning when it came out, it forms a commentary on comics and Frank himself.

Don't forget that every message board posting has become canon as well since Joe Quesada authorised it in 2001.

If you don't understand continuity then you lack faith, it is just Marvel testing you.
Avengers63 is that your personal journey?

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