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	<title>Comments on: Comics Should Be Good Top 50 Countdown! - #4</title>
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		<title>By: Pedro BouÃ§a</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedro BouÃ§a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I dearly love Asterix and the Black Gold, even more than most Goscinny books. But those are the exception rather than the rule. Uderzo still kicks arse on visual gags (the one on the most recent book - as bad as it was - with Obelix vs. the alien &quot;Zodiac Knight&quot; made me laugh out loud) and has good plot ideas, but has been losing his hands on story structure (the last book clearly went much longer than it should be) and plot-based gags (the manga/US comics parody fell flat to most people and got him some of the most venomnous reviews of his entire career).

Best,
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I dearly love Asterix and the Black Gold, even more than most Goscinny books. But those are the exception rather than the rule. Uderzo still kicks arse on visual gags (the one on the most recent book - as bad as it was - with Obelix vs. the alien "Zodiac Knight" made me laugh out loud) and has good plot ideas, but has been losing his hands on story structure (the last book clearly went much longer than it should be) and plot-based gags (the manga/US comics parody fell flat to most people and got him some of the most venomnous reviews of his entire career).</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)</p>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just to help with story structure and to include some extra gags. Uderzo HAS some good ideas, but his execution is below par writing-wise.&quot;
For the most part, yes, but I actually think Asterix and Son is one of the better books in the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Just to help with story structure and to include some extra gags. Uderzo HAS some good ideas, but his execution is below par writing-wise."<br />
For the most part, yes, but I actually think Asterix and Son is one of the better books in the series.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedro BouÃ§a</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedro BouÃ§a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wwk5d, the Wikipedia is a pretty good reference for that in english.

Best,
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wwk5d, the Wikipedia is a pretty good reference for that in english.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)</p>
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		<title>By: wwk5d</title>
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		<dc:creator>wwk5d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought Avengers # 4 was more well known, but historically, I guess Showcase # 4 is more important. Oh well...

&quot;Nah, as we learnt with #8, Sandman just isnâ€™t as notable, as Wonder Woman, a character without a single stand out storyline in the decades sheâ€™s existed.&quot;

Wow, you just can&#039;t let that one go...

Ah, Cigars of the Pahroah. That, and the Blue Lotus, are probably my 2 favorite Tintin stories. Does anyone know a website listing all the times the Tintin stories have been redone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought Avengers # 4 was more well known, but historically, I guess Showcase # 4 is more important. Oh well...</p>
<p>"Nah, as we learnt with #8, Sandman just isnâ€™t as notable, as Wonder Woman, a character without a single stand out storyline in the decades sheâ€™s existed."</p>
<p>Wow, you just can't let that one go...</p>
<p>Ah, Cigars of the Pahroah. That, and the Blue Lotus, are probably my 2 favorite Tintin stories. Does anyone know a website listing all the times the Tintin stories have been redone?</p>
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		<title>By: Pedro BouÃ§a</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedro BouÃ§a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, Ajit. Uderzo has already said there won&#039;t be any new Asterix stories after he dies.

But I DO wish he got a co-writer to hlp him with his own books. I even have the man for the job: Scotch Arleston (who does some very Asterix-inspired series for Soleil in France).

Just to help with story structure and to include some extra gags. Uderzo HAS some good ideas, but his execution is below par writing-wise.

Best,
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don't worry, Ajit. Uderzo has already said there won't be any new Asterix stories after he dies.</p>
<p>But I DO wish he got a co-writer to hlp him with his own books. I even have the man for the job: Scotch Arleston (who does some very Asterix-inspired series for Soleil in France).</p>
<p>Just to help with story structure and to include some extra gags. Uderzo HAS some good ideas, but his execution is below par writing-wise.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)</p>
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		<title>By: Ajit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Crab is the ninth TIntin book and Black Gold is the 15th. But both Tintin and Asterix are much older than you think.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, sorry, I didn&#039;t make myself clear, I should have written &quot;Been around for 30 years or more &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;in India&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;...&quot;

And just to clarify further, I&#039;m speaking only of the albums here; an older colleague told me that he can remember that &lt;i&gt;Tintin&lt;/i&gt; appeared as a strip in Indian magazines as far back as the early 1970s (before my time).

&lt;blockquote&gt;and not having new books for more than 20 years!&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Which may be a blessing in disguise, the quality of the &lt;i&gt;Asterix&lt;/i&gt; tales has certainly dropped after Goscinny&#039;s death... :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Crab is the ninth TIntin book and Black Gold is the 15th. But both Tintin and Asterix are much older than you think.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, sorry, I didn't make myself clear, I should have written "Been around for 30 years or more <b><i>in India</i></b>..."</p>
<p>And just to clarify further, I'm speaking only of the albums here; an older colleague told me that he can remember that <i>Tintin</i> appeared as a strip in Indian magazines as far back as the early 1970s (before my time).</p>
<blockquote><p>and not having new books for more than 20 years!</p></blockquote>
<p>Which may be a blessing in disguise, the quality of the <i>Asterix</i> tales has certainly dropped after Goscinny's death... <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pedro BouÃ§a</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedro BouÃ§a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,  Tintin has a very sucessful cartoon series also. And the cartoon Flash is NOT Barry Allen, it&#039;s Wally West! Arguably a much better character.

Tintin has sold over 200 million comics in the world. I doubt Flash - ANY Flash - can say the same. Superman maybe, but Flash?

Ajit, your numbering is correct. Crab is the ninth TIntin book and Black Gold is the 15th. But both Tintin and Asterix are much older than you think. Next year will be the 80th anniversary of the Tintin series! And Asterix will be pushing 50, no less! That a comic series is able to keep selling well (3 million books a year - more than The Flash...) for that many years - and not having new books for more than 20 years! - is a testament of its enduring popularity.

Best,
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,  Tintin has a very sucessful cartoon series also. And the cartoon Flash is NOT Barry Allen, it's Wally West! Arguably a much better character.</p>
<p>Tintin has sold over 200 million comics in the world. I doubt Flash - ANY Flash - can say the same. Superman maybe, but Flash?</p>
<p>Ajit, your numbering is correct. Crab is the ninth TIntin book and Black Gold is the 15th. But both Tintin and Asterix are much older than you think. Next year will be the 80th anniversary of the Tintin series! And Asterix will be pushing 50, no less! That a comic series is able to keep selling well (3 million books a year - more than The Flash...) for that many years - and not having new books for more than 20 years! - is a testament of its enduring popularity.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)</p>
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		<title>By: Ajit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Crab With The Golden Claws&lt;/i&gt; is the ninth story in the Tintin canon, but it&#039;s a bit more problematic than that because HergÃ© started it after he was forced to abandon &lt;i&gt;Land of Black Gold&lt;/i&gt; because of the German invasion of Belgium. (He redrew it later, and it is now considered the fifteenth book in the series as far as I remember.)

&lt;blockquote&gt;I LOVE Hergeâ€™s Tintin series but Iâ€™d argue that FLASH is more well known in Asia...Especially with the advent of the Justice League cartoons.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I won&#039;t presume to speak for all of Asia but that is simply not true of India. If I mentioned &#039;Flash&#039; and &#039;comics&#039; more people are likely to think of &#039;Flash Gordon&#039; than of either Barry Allen or Wally West.

Tintin and Asterix? Been around for 30 years or more, and still selling steadily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Crab With The Golden Claws</i> is the ninth story in the Tintin canon, but it's a bit more problematic than that because HergÃ© started it after he was forced to abandon <i>Land of Black Gold</i> because of the German invasion of Belgium. (He redrew it later, and it is now considered the fifteenth book in the series as far as I remember.)</p>
<blockquote><p>I LOVE Hergeâ€™s Tintin series but Iâ€™d argue that FLASH is more well known in Asia...Especially with the advent of the Justice League cartoons.</p></blockquote>
<p>I won't presume to speak for all of Asia but that is simply not true of India. If I mentioned 'Flash' and 'comics' more people are likely to think of 'Flash Gordon' than of either Barry Allen or Wally West.</p>
<p>Tintin and Asterix? Been around for 30 years or more, and still selling steadily.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackjak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackjak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That wuold be &quot;The Crab With The Golden Claws&quot; wouldn&#039;t it?  What number was that Pedro?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wuold be "The Crab With The Golden Claws" wouldn't it?  What number was that Pedro?</p>
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		<title>By: JamesJesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesJesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE Herge&#039;s Tintin series but I&#039;d argue that FLASH is more well known in Asia.

I wouldn&#039;t say Tintin is more well known around the world than Flash.  You&#039;d be surprised.
Especially with the advent of the Justice League cartoons.

And at the end of the day, Showcase 4 brought back the Silver Age. It&#039;s domino effect included the revival of DC and creation of the entire Marvel Superhero Universe.

Thompson and Thompson, while fun, are at the end of the day, Supporting characters to Tintin. The first appearance of Captain Haddock would have been more significant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE Herge's Tintin series but I'd argue that FLASH is more well known in Asia.</p>
<p>I wouldn't say Tintin is more well known around the world than Flash.  You'd be surprised.<br />
Especially with the advent of the Justice League cartoons.</p>
<p>And at the end of the day, Showcase 4 brought back the Silver Age. It's domino effect included the revival of DC and creation of the entire Marvel Superhero Universe.</p>
<p>Thompson and Thompson, while fun, are at the end of the day, Supporting characters to Tintin. The first appearance of Captain Haddock would have been more significant.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackjak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackjak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep!
Y finished at 60...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep!<br />
Y finished at 60...</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re absolutely right.  Transmet went to 60 (and Y did too, didn&#039;t it?), Preacher to 66.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're absolutely right.  Transmet went to 60 (and Y did too, didn't it?), Preacher to 66.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackjak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackjak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stefan:

Last issue of Preacher was #66</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stefan:</p>
<p>Last issue of Preacher was #66</p>
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		<title>By: S_O</title>
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		<dc:creator>S_O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DanLarkin: actually, Hulk debuted in &quot;Incredible Hulk #1&quot;, but by the time Marvel was sorta DC&#039;s bitch and, as mentioned in one of the first &quot;Urban Legends&quot; had a limit of how many titles it could publish, so the first IH got cancelled after #6, and Hulk started appearing in &quot;Tales to Astonish&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DanLarkin: actually, Hulk debuted in "Incredible Hulk #1", but by the time Marvel was sorta DC's bitch and, as mentioned in one of the first "Urban Legends" had a limit of how many titles it could publish, so the first IH got cancelled after #6, and Hulk started appearing in "Tales to Astonish".</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d go #75 of Sandman - it&#039;s a landmark because a company owned series was allowed to finish when it&#039;s creator/writer wanted it to finish, and hasn&#039;t been touched since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd go #75 of Sandman - it's a landmark because a company owned series was allowed to finish when it's creator/writer wanted it to finish, and hasn't been touched since.</p>
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		<title>By: Ajit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Something tells me #75â€™s not really in contention if Brian does this. Hawk and Dove get just a bit trumped by the death of Superman. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Not to me! :-)

No kidding, I haven&#039;t read any of the &#039;Death of Superman&#039; saga.

I did think of the last issue of &lt;i&gt;Sandman&lt;/i&gt; but the whole thing hangs together so well that it&#039;s hard to single any one issue out. If I had to pick, I would have gone for either &#039;&lt;i&gt;Midsummer Night&#039;s Dream&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;FaÃ§ade&lt;/i&gt;. (Quick, without looking, which comics were at numbers 19 and 20?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Something tells me #75â€™s not really in contention if Brian does this. Hawk and Dove get just a bit trumped by the death of Superman. </p></blockquote>
<p>Not to me! <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>No kidding, I haven't read any of the 'Death of Superman' saga.</p>
<p>I did think of the last issue of <i>Sandman</i> but the whole thing hangs together so well that it's hard to single any one issue out. If I had to pick, I would have gone for either '<i>Midsummer Night's Dream</i> or <i>FaÃ§ade</i>. (Quick, without looking, which comics were at numbers 19 and 20?)</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Spider-Man 3 villain, The Sandman, first appeared in The Amazing Spider-Man #4.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nah, as we learnt with #8, Sandman just isn&#039;t as notable, as Wonder Woman, a character without a single stand out storyline in the decades she&#039;s existed.

Anyway, I enjoyed the countdown Brian, it was interesting stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Spider-Man 3 villain, The Sandman, first appeared in The Amazing Spider-Man #4.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nah, as we learnt with #8, Sandman just isn't as notable, as Wonder Woman, a character without a single stand out storyline in the decades she's existed.</p>
<p>Anyway, I enjoyed the countdown Brian, it was interesting stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From here do the BIG numbers above 50 (and also 0)

#0
#75
#100
#150
#200
#250
#500
#666!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From here do the BIG numbers above 50 (and also 0)</p>
<p>#0<br />
#75<br />
#100<br />
#150<br />
#200<br />
#250<br />
#500<br />
#666!</p>
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		<title>By: buttler</title>
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		<dc:creator>buttler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, really?!   But Quasar only ran 60 issues!</description>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a few modern agers here that I have to lobby for, some of which may be obvious.  It&#039;s pretty clear how much I slant toward Marvel though.

60, final Preacher
70, first Joe Kelly X-Men, for quality alone (though it did have an &quot;all new, all different&quot; team in it too).
71, first all-new-all-different X-Factor, the beginning of Peter David&#039;s run
75, The Death of Superman OR the last Sandman; the end of the first mainsream ongoing series that showed us a begining, a middle and an end.  And did Wolverine get his adamantium back, too?
87. First Cable in New Mutants
92, the start of Planet Hulk
97, beginning of Tischmann&#039;s Cable
98, first Deadpool in New Mutants

Surely at least one of the 70s goes to Starman, and one of the 80s too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few modern agers here that I have to lobby for, some of which may be obvious.  It's pretty clear how much I slant toward Marvel though.</p>
<p>60, final Preacher<br />
70, first Joe Kelly X-Men, for quality alone (though it did have an "all new, all different" team in it too).<br />
71, first all-new-all-different X-Factor, the beginning of Peter David's run<br />
75, The Death of Superman OR the last Sandman; the end of the first mainsream ongoing series that showed us a begining, a middle and an end.  And did Wolverine get his adamantium back, too?<br />
87. First Cable in New Mutants<br />
92, the start of Planet Hulk<br />
97, beginning of Tischmann's Cable<br />
98, first Deadpool in New Mutants</p>
<p>Surely at least one of the 70s goes to Starman, and one of the 80s too.</p>
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