Comments on: Comics Should Be Good Top 50 Countdown Master List

By: daniel

daniel — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:01:44 +0000

aside from the top 50, it'd be interesting to pick a few other numbers that you could at least come up with arguments about. such as:

#0 - starman or rai? one was the first issue of one of the 2 or 3 best series of the 90's, the other laid out the entire future of a whole comic company, and had a killer cover.

#75 - wolverine's bone claws or the death of superman? probably superman, but wolverine's bone claws were a huge deal at the time.

#129 - punisher or kitty pride and emma frost?

#181 - first wolverine or death of elektra? first wolverine is more significant, but many, MANY comic fans remember the death of elektra as one of the greatest issues they've ever read, myself included.

#300 - first venom or last cerebus?

and how about the most notable one shot/comic without an issue number? my pick would be the killing joke. anything i'm forgetting?

By: buttler

buttler — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:07:10 +0000

If you click on any of the covers in the list, it'll take you to the (occasionally heated) discussion of other candidates, Paul. (Like All-Star #8!)

By: Paul1963

Paul1963 — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:58:13 +0000

#8 could also have been All-Star #8, with the first appearance of Wonder Woman.
Scott McIver, what #21 would you say was more significant than Alan Moore's first Swamp Thing? The case could be made that, without Moore on Swamp Thing in 1984, there's no Vertigo in 2008.

By: wwk5d

wwk5d — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:24:28 +0000

I'd love to see a list where the fans vote (like the Top 100 Comic Book Runs list). I'm curious to see what differences there would be...

By: FD

FD — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:18:24 +0000

Good list, but yeah, #21 needs to be G.I. Joe.

By: Adam P. Knave

Adam P. Knave — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:15:37 +0000

Best 1,000,000? Hitman.

What about best #1/2? Didn't they do a bunch of those? Like Wizard whored them around or somesuch?

By: Thok

Thok — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:30:36 +0000

If Brian's doing 0, then he should probably do 1,000,000 also. I have no idea what would be the appropriate issue for that number.

By: Mike Loughlin

Mike Loughlin — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:07:05 +0000

And how about those 1/2 issues Wizard used to sell? Maxx 1/2 by a landslide!

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:07:08 +0000

Great list. Although for me the notable #21 would be G.I. JOE. #26 also, probably.

Thanks, Craig!

Also, that is one of the most awesome typos I've seen.

By: Craig

Craig — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:03:46 +0000

Great list. Although for me the notable #21 would be G.I. JOE. #26 also, probably.

I love that you included Deadpool.

And my choice for #0? Magnus Robot Fighter, the first time I ever saw such a number used.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:01:05 +0000

The posting on CBRâ€™s front page is really misleading, Brian. Theyâ€™ve got it tagged as the â€œFifty Most Notable Comics,â€ without really mentioning issue numbers at all. Yes, your introduction at the beginning says it all, but I imagine these new comments are from people who just skipped to see what the 50 most notable issues were. Anyway to get the CBR front page link changed?

I just appreciate the linkage.

And really, while yes, the headline is misleading, I understand their confusion - this is not the easiest thing to describe, and whatever headline they came up with, I think readers would be confused initially - that's why I have the big explanation on the top.

If someone fails to read the intro, it's all good, we'll just explain it here.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:58:54 +0000

Thanks, Dave.

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:37:54 +0000

Oh, duh. Well that was dopey of me. I see so its the most notable #1, #2, etc. I see. Sorry. Well that made a great list even greater. Nice job.

By: Blackjak

Blackjak — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:31:28 +0000

And where are all the anthropomorphic characters???

By: buttler

buttler — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:26:41 +0000

I told you the list needed more Dazzler and Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld. But did you listen? Nooo.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:16:01 +0000

Wow, nice sexist list. Not a single issue with a female lead is â€œnotable?â€

Besides failing to note that Promethea was on the list (plus Sandman #8 surely counts, as well), that made sense.

By: JJS

JJS — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:12:53 +0000

Wow, nice sexist list. Not a single issue with a female lead is "notable?"

By: buttler

buttler — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:09:49 +0000

True, Dave, but this list was just #1-#50.

I hear 75 is the new 50.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:01:07 +0000

Interesting list, I agree with many choicesâ€“but how could you almost totally ignore the entire decade of the 1970s? Adams/Oâ€™Neilâ€™s revitalization of Batman and the Joker, Green Lantern/Green Arrow, Wein and Wrightsonâ€™s Swamp Thing, Thomas and Smithâ€™s Conan, Englehart and Rogersâ€™ Batman, Moench and Gulacyâ€™s Master of Kung Fu, etc.

What about Sterankoâ€™s Nick Fury books or any of his work in the 1960s?

And why no ECâ€™s?

The 70s are hurt by the fact that a lot of the big books started before the 1970s, so they don't have a lot of low numbers for the list, and even then, two titles DID make the list!

And EC made the list at #30!

By: Stefan

Stefan — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:00:19 +0000

The posting on CBR's front page is really misleading, Brian. They've got it tagged as the "Fifty Most Notable Comics," without really mentioning issue numbers at all. Yes, your introduction at the beginning says it all, but I imagine these new comments are from people who just skipped to see what the 50 most notable issues were. Anyway to get the CBR front page link changed?