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	<title>Comments on: Thoughts on the Kramers Ergot  Pricing Controversy</title>
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		<title>By: DED</title>
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		<dc:creator>DED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What MarkAndrew said.   If I had the cash, I&#039;d buy the &lt;i&gt;Kramers Ergot&lt;/i&gt; collection.  Unfortunately I&#039;m in grad school, so that means I don&#039;t have any money for any comics.  So, no &lt;i&gt;Secret Invasion&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;Kramers Ergot&lt;/i&gt; for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What MarkAndrew said.   If I had the cash, I'd buy the <i>Kramers Ergot</i> collection.  Unfortunately I'm in grad school, so that means I don't have any money for any comics.  So, no <i>Secret Invasion</i> or <i>Kramers Ergot</i> for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Rice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to Ergot.  With that lineup, it&#039;s well worth the price for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to Ergot.  With that lineup, it's well worth the price for me.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, He said if he had an extra 120 bucks lying around and had to spend it on either the Kramer&#039;s book or Secret Invasion tie-ins, he&#039;d, sensibly, go with one page of Kim Deitch and Jaime Hernandez over 400 pages of Bendis and Land.   I&#039;m generally a quality over quantity guy myself.  

In the actual non-hypothetical world, he&#039;s going with the even-more-sensible choice of &quot;neither.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, He said if he had an extra 120 bucks lying around and had to spend it on either the Kramer's book or Secret Invasion tie-ins, he'd, sensibly, go with one page of Kim Deitch and Jaime Hernandez over 400 pages of Bendis and Land.   I'm generally a quality over quantity guy myself.  </p>
<p>In the actual non-hypothetical world, he's going with the even-more-sensible choice of "neither."</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Coil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Coil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DED says his choice is the Kramer&#039;s book in one sentence, yet later says he can&#039;t afford it, so will try to get in from the library.

Hmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DED says his choice is the Kramer's book in one sentence, yet later says he can't afford it, so will try to get in from the library.</p>
<p>Hmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not as far as I can see, DED. That would be a useful trick, though.

I&#039;ll see if I can find an html code that allows it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not as far as I can see, DED. That would be a useful trick, though.</p>
<p>I'll see if I can find an html code that allows it.</p>
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		<title>By: DED</title>
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		<dc:creator>DED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I donâ€™t care much either way, but if I was a creator on the book Iâ€™d be furious (unless I was told up-front in which case I just wouldnâ€™t be involved)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;The Beat&lt;/i&gt; has been covering this pretty extensively, and from what I can gather everyone knew how this was going to work out from the start.  It should also be noted that the high cost of the book isn&#039;t markup, it&#039;s about the production values, the size of the print run, the talent involved, etc.  If I remember right the size of the book is the biggest factor.

&lt;blockquote&gt;One big book or 40 issues of the Secret Invasion crossover. I know which choice Iâ€™d make. â€˜Nuff said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Me too.  &lt;i&gt;Kramer&#039;s Ergot&lt;/i&gt;.  Really, it all comes down to what your budget is and what you like to read.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I AM almost certainly gonna try to get it through interlibrary loan, though.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Am hoping to do the same thing.  Don&#039;t have the cash for the book itself, but would like to sit down and read through should.  Given the size and production values it should be gorgeous.

And completely off topic: is there a way to attribute a quote to someone via the html tags?  My html skills are not good, and can&#039;t quite figure it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I donâ€™t care much either way, but if I was a creator on the book Iâ€™d be furious (unless I was told up-front in which case I just wouldnâ€™t be involved)</p></blockquote>
<p><i>The Beat</i> has been covering this pretty extensively, and from what I can gather everyone knew how this was going to work out from the start.  It should also be noted that the high cost of the book isn't markup, it's about the production values, the size of the print run, the talent involved, etc.  If I remember right the size of the book is the biggest factor.</p>
<blockquote><p>One big book or 40 issues of the Secret Invasion crossover. I know which choice Iâ€™d make. â€˜Nuff said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Me too.  <i>Kramer's Ergot</i>.  Really, it all comes down to what your budget is and what you like to read.</p>
<blockquote><p>I AM almost certainly gonna try to get it through interlibrary loan, though.</p></blockquote>
<p>Am hoping to do the same thing.  Don't have the cash for the book itself, but would like to sit down and read through should.  Given the size and production values it should be gorgeous.</p>
<p>And completely off topic: is there a way to attribute a quote to someone via the html tags?  My html skills are not good, and can't quite figure it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Coil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Coil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One big book or 40 issues of the Secret Invasion crossover. I know which choice I&#039;d make. &#039;Nuff said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One big book or 40 issues of the Secret Invasion crossover. I know which choice I'd make. 'Nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Hatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Hatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Only in comics do we even have this conversation. Anyone thinks booksellers complain when expensive coffee-table vanity books come out? No, they just take the money and smile.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I dunno. The conversation about &quot;a book being too expensive in its first printing&quot; is one I&#039;ve heard from several writer friends of mine. I&#039;m not sure how that figures into coffee-table, almost-an-artifact kinds of books. (Lately I&#039;ve taken something of an interest in actual rare-book collecting, even though we don&#039;t have the money to pursue it seriously, I do read the trade &#039;zines and such.)

To me the nutty thing about this conversation in comics is that fans are so willing to pay more for only a piece of the completed book. Look how many shelled out for Countdown&#039;s entire run, a total of $155.48. That strikes me as a far worse deal than a classy art-comics hardcover for $125.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Only in comics do we even have this conversation. Anyone thinks booksellers complain when expensive coffee-table vanity books come out? No, they just take the money and smile.</p></blockquote>
<p>I dunno. The conversation about "a book being too expensive in its first printing" is one I've heard from several writer friends of mine. I'm not sure how that figures into coffee-table, almost-an-artifact kinds of books. (Lately I've taken something of an interest in actual rare-book collecting, even though we don't have the money to pursue it seriously, I do read the trade 'zines and such.)</p>
<p>To me the nutty thing about this conversation in comics is that fans are so willing to pay more for only a piece of the completed book. Look how many shelled out for Countdown's entire run, a total of $155.48. That strikes me as a far worse deal than a classy art-comics hardcover for $125.</p>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care much either way, but if I was a creator on the book I&#039;d be furious (unless I was told up-front in which case I just wouldn&#039;t be involved)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't care much either way, but if I was a creator on the book I'd be furious (unless I was told up-front in which case I just wouldn't be involved)</p>
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I AM almost certainly gonna try to get it through interlibrary loan, though.  There are at least 5 contributors who are (almost) always on my automatically buy everything they do site-unseen list.  (Kim Deitch, Gabrielle Bell, Jaime Hernandez, Carol Tyler, Dan Clowes...  Tim Hensley probably should be) and about a dozen more who&#039;s stuff I actively follow.  If it was fifty bucks I&#039;d seriously hafta consider buying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AM almost certainly gonna try to get it through interlibrary loan, though.  There are at least 5 contributors who are (almost) always on my automatically buy everything they do site-unseen list.  (Kim Deitch, Gabrielle Bell, Jaime Hernandez, Carol Tyler, Dan Clowes...  Tim Hensley probably should be) and about a dozen more who's stuff I actively follow.  If it was fifty bucks I'd seriously hafta consider buying it.</p>
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		<title>By: thekamisama</title>
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		<dc:creator>thekamisama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only in comics do we even have this conversation. Anyone thinks booksellers compalin when expensive coffeetable vanity books come out?  No, they just take the money and smile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only in comics do we even have this conversation. Anyone thinks booksellers compalin when expensive coffeetable vanity books come out?  No, they just take the money and smile.</p>
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		<title>By: joecab</title>
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		<dc:creator>joecab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 02:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t matter to me. Plus they can always drop the price later if they don&#039;t move. I have no interest either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn't matter to me. Plus they can always drop the price later if they don't move. I have no interest either way.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>96 pages.  125 bucks.  Or eight issues of Mome, or the D &amp; Q Showcase series.  Both of which have more pages.  

I mean, I&#039;m not pissed off it exists.   I&#039;m fine with the IDEA of comic book as more expensive art object.  You can certainly drop 125 bones on a limited edition print of a work by a major artist.  But I&#039;m not takin&#039; out a damn mortgage to buy a comic, personally.    (And I did buy the last couple issues.)

I wish &#039;em luck, but I doubt there&#039;ll be that many takers. Sure, more publicity is good, but I&#039;d figure that the majority of us who are in the market for this kinda project (Including me) are already aware of it&#039;s existence.  Talking about a book like this before an audience of 10,000 Flash fans ain&#039;t gonna move many copies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>96 pages.  125 bucks.  Or eight issues of Mome, or the D &amp; Q Showcase series.  Both of which have more pages.  </p>
<p>I mean, I'm not pissed off it exists.   I'm fine with the IDEA of comic book as more expensive art object.  You can certainly drop 125 bones on a limited edition print of a work by a major artist.  But I'm not takin' out a damn mortgage to buy a comic, personally.    (And I did buy the last couple issues.)</p>
<p>I wish 'em luck, but I doubt there'll be that many takers. Sure, more publicity is good, but I'd figure that the majority of us who are in the market for this kinda project (Including me) are already aware of it's existence.  Talking about a book like this before an audience of 10,000 Flash fans ain't gonna move many copies.</p>
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