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	<title>Comments on: Friday Linkblogging (Mostly Fisticuffs)</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Hatcher</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/09/19/friday-linkblogging-mostly-fisticuffs/comment-page-1/#comment-684983</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Hatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Or is this just something misguided fans have called it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m thinking of the swarms of fans who show up any time someone dares to suggest the book is crap to yell about how it&#039;s a SATIRE and we just don&#039;t GET IT. In fairness, Funky, you haven&#039;t done that, but none of your defenses of it boil down to anything other than, &quot;I know what it is, but I like it that way.&quot; That doesn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;negate&lt;/em&gt; any of the bad things I or anyone else have said about it. It just means you don&#039;t &lt;em&gt;care&lt;/em&gt; about them.

Look, it&#039;s one thing to enjoy a crappy piece of work just for fun. It&#039;s quite another to look at it critically and suggest that it&#039;s really a clever, satirical view of crap, which is the defense fans constantly trot out for &lt;strong&gt;All-Star Batman.&lt;/strong&gt; It would be as if I came out and called &lt;b&gt;Black Belt Jones&lt;/b&gt; a subtle, subversive parody of then-current blaxploitation trends. That would be ridiculous. Viewed with a critical eye, it&#039;s just &lt;i&gt;dumb.&lt;/i&gt; The same goes for &lt;b&gt;All-Star Batman.&lt;/b&gt; It&#039;s not &quot;adult&quot; or &quot;mature&quot; and no amount of bleating from fans about its satirical outlook will make it so. It&#039;s still a &lt;em&gt;dumb&lt;/em&gt; comic with an arrested-adolescent sensibility.

And as I&#039;ve said, several times, if that&#039;s your thing, fine. But it&#039;s not mine and I think I&#039;ve explained why. I think we&#039;ll just have to agree to disagree, because it seems even more absurd go over it all one more time in a hijacked thread when it was done to death last week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Or is this just something misguided fans have called it?</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm thinking of the swarms of fans who show up any time someone dares to suggest the book is crap to yell about how it's a SATIRE and we just don't GET IT. In fairness, Funky, you haven't done that, but none of your defenses of it boil down to anything other than, "I know what it is, but I like it that way." That doesn't <em>negate</em> any of the bad things I or anyone else have said about it. It just means you don't <em>care</em> about them.</p>
<p>Look, it's one thing to enjoy a crappy piece of work just for fun. It's quite another to look at it critically and suggest that it's really a clever, satirical view of crap, which is the defense fans constantly trot out for <strong>All-Star Batman.</strong> It would be as if I came out and called <b>Black Belt Jones</b> a subtle, subversive parody of then-current blaxploitation trends. That would be ridiculous. Viewed with a critical eye, it's just <i>dumb.</i> The same goes for <b>All-Star Batman.</b> It's not "adult" or "mature" and no amount of bleating from fans about its satirical outlook will make it so. It's still a <em>dumb</em> comic with an arrested-adolescent sensibility.</p>
<p>And as I've said, several times, if that's your thing, fine. But it's not mine and I think I've explained why. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree, because it seems even more absurd go over it all one more time in a hijacked thread when it was done to death last week.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/09/19/friday-linkblogging-mostly-fisticuffs/comment-page-1/#comment-684964</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell you that DC has pointedly NOT sold the book as a parody.

All the solicits and ads for the book have played it entirely straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell you that DC has pointedly NOT sold the book as a parody.</p>
<p>All the solicits and ads for the book have played it entirely straight.</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/09/19/friday-linkblogging-mostly-fisticuffs/comment-page-1/#comment-684962</link>
		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;    .
The difference is that I donâ€™t try and sell the idea that itâ€™s done that way on purpose as some sort of brilliant parody. Sometimes bad is just, well, bad.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Have DC?

Or is this just something misguided fans have called it?</description>
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The difference is that I donâ€™t try and sell the idea that itâ€™s done that way on purpose as some sort of brilliant parody. Sometimes bad is just, well, bad.</p></blockquote>
<p>Have DC?</p>
<p>Or is this just something misguided fans have called it?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Hatcher</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/09/19/friday-linkblogging-mostly-fisticuffs/comment-page-1/#comment-684951</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Hatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Replace â€™so badâ€™ with â€™so over the topâ€™ and you could be describing the joys of All Star Bat Man and Robin.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The difference is that I don&#039;t try and sell the idea that it&#039;s done that way &lt;b&gt;on purpose as some sort of brilliant parody. &lt;/b&gt; Sometimes bad is just, well, bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Replace â€™so badâ€™ with â€™so over the topâ€™ and you could be describing the joys of All Star Bat Man and Robin.</p></blockquote>
<p>The difference is that I don't try and sell the idea that it's done that way <b>on purpose as some sort of brilliant parody. </b> Sometimes bad is just, well, bad.</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/09/19/friday-linkblogging-mostly-fisticuffs/comment-page-1/#comment-684950</link>
		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Speaking of martial arts and exploitation films, hereâ€™s a bit from one of my very favorite ones of the 1970â€™sâ€“ the so-bad-itâ€™s-genius Jim Kelly epic, Black Belt Jones.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Replace &#039;so bad&#039; with &#039;so over the top&#039; and you could be describing the joys of All Star Bat Man and Robin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Speaking of martial arts and exploitation films, hereâ€™s a bit from one of my very favorite ones of the 1970â€™sâ€“ the so-bad-itâ€™s-genius Jim Kelly epic, Black Belt Jones.</p></blockquote>
<p>Replace 'so bad' with 'so over the top' and you could be describing the joys of All Star Bat Man and Robin.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Holley</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/09/19/friday-linkblogging-mostly-fisticuffs/comment-page-1/#comment-684868</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry Holley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; I think my dentist isnâ€™t going to be satisfied until I have an entirely bionic jaw.&quot;

Is anyone else sensing a possible super-hero origin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>" I think my dentist isnâ€™t going to be satisfied until I have an entirely bionic jaw."</p>
<p>Is anyone else sensing a possible super-hero origin?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Hatcher</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/09/19/friday-linkblogging-mostly-fisticuffs/comment-page-1/#comment-684757</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Hatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Are the other fights in the movie that good, or is that the cream of the crop?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, that one&#039;s definitely the cream of the crop. But they&#039;re all good. The fights are SHORT, really, from a modern perspective. That&#039;s the main difference. 

Thanks for the kind wishes... sadly, my mouth is such a trainwreck that this is going to be going on for a while. Dr. Irene says it&#039;s time to refer me to a specialist, which is depressing. Long journey, tiny steps.

And now I&#039;m going to bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are the other fights in the movie that good, or is that the cream of the crop?</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, that one's definitely the cream of the crop. But they're all good. The fights are SHORT, really, from a modern perspective. That's the main difference. </p>
<p>Thanks for the kind wishes... sadly, my mouth is such a trainwreck that this is going to be going on for a while. Dr. Irene says it's time to refer me to a specialist, which is depressing. Long journey, tiny steps.</p>
<p>And now I'm going to bed.</p>
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		<title>By: s1rude</title>
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		<dc:creator>s1rude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Cagney clip is insane - it&#039;s so much more, I don&#039;t know, visceral than modern fight choreography.  The scene has much in common with MMA with punches, takedowns and even a few submission attempts (gotta love when Cagney dives at the downed guy to put him in a choke).  Are the other fights in the movie that good, or is that the cream of the crop?

I didn&#039;t even know there was a Batman/Green Hornet crossover.  I want to see the cubist Batman and Robin portrait.  Dig that crazy show.

Good luck in the chair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Cagney clip is insane - it's so much more, I don't know, visceral than modern fight choreography.  The scene has much in common with MMA with punches, takedowns and even a few submission attempts (gotta love when Cagney dives at the downed guy to put him in a choke).  Are the other fights in the movie that good, or is that the cream of the crop?</p>
<p>I didn't even know there was a Batman/Green Hornet crossover.  I want to see the cubist Batman and Robin portrait.  Dig that crazy show.</p>
<p>Good luck in the chair.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck, Greg. I&#039;ve always felt Philip K. Dick was on to something (as opposed to *on* something, which of course he most certainly was) when he gave his character Palmer Eldritch stainless-steel teeth. Having undergone quite a few dental procedures myself, I&#039;ve long thought that would be a great idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck, Greg. I've always felt Philip K. Dick was on to something (as opposed to *on* something, which of course he most certainly was) when he gave his character Palmer Eldritch stainless-steel teeth. Having undergone quite a few dental procedures myself, I've long thought that would be a great idea.</p>
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