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	<title>Comments on: Scott&#039;s Classic Comics Corner: UFO Comics</title>
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		<title>By: alex poray</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex poray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out &quot;LEVEL ABOVE HUMAN&quot;, it&#039;s my comic book about a hoax alien invasion.
You can view it for free via the link below.
http://www.myebook.com/index.php?option=ebook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out "LEVEL ABOVE HUMAN", it's my comic book about a hoax alien invasion.<br />
You can view it for free via the link below.<br />
<a href="http://www.myebook.com/index.php?option=ebook" rel="nofollow">http://www.myebook.com/index.php?option=ebook</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lothor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lothor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Bailey asked:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Has any other comic gone on to last 25 issues ... after coming out only every TWO years over the course of its first 4 issues. (For that matter, just how many every-2-year comics have there been, period?)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
ASBAR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Bailey asked:</p>
<blockquote><p>Has any other comic gone on to last 25 issues ... after coming out only every TWO years over the course of its first 4 issues. (For that matter, just how many every-2-year comics have there been, period?)</p></blockquote>
<p>ASBAR?</p>
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		<title>By: onion3000</title>
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		<dc:creator>onion3000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or is the Bikini Car Wash cover kinda Kirbyish? (Other than the aliens, oddly...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or is the Bikini Car Wash cover kinda Kirbyish? (Other than the aliens, oddly...)</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only imagine that, in the second cover shown, the Soviet space capsule is stopped at the saucer-alien equivalent of a bikini car wash.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only imagine that, in the second cover shown, the Soviet space capsule is stopped at the saucer-alien equivalent of a bikini car wash.  <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/09/23/scotts-classic-comics-corner-ufo-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-685119</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Iâ€™ve had no problems finding the Dell issues, but a much tougher time with the early GKs.

Interesting. In completing the run, I think I had the most problem with the final few issues ... though I think #10 is the one that eluded me the longest, for whatever reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Iâ€™ve had no problems finding the Dell issues, but a much tougher time with the early GKs.</p>
<p>Interesting. In completing the run, I think I had the most problem with the final few issues ... though I think #10 is the one that eluded me the longest, for whatever reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Slaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Webb&#039;s Project UFO TV series ran for a couple of seasons in 1978-79. Maybe Gold Key stepped things up to capitalize on the interest raised by the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Webb's Project UFO TV series ran for a couple of seasons in 1978-79. Maybe Gold Key stepped things up to capitalize on the interest raised by the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info Dan - I can&#039;t recall where I got my dates, but it was online database that could you some more data. Your dates show 78 and 79 to be the bulk of the publishing.

I&#039;ve been having some luck tracking down the later issues, but I don&#039;t have from 1972-1976.

I had a copy of #1, but I gave it to our good friend Michi for his birthday a while back.

I&#039;ve had no problems finding the Dell issues, but a much tougher time with the early GKs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info Dan - I can't recall where I got my dates, but it was online database that could you some more data. Your dates show 78 and 79 to be the bulk of the publishing.</p>
<p>I've been having some luck tracking down the later issues, but I don't have from 1972-1976.</p>
<p>I had a copy of #1, but I gave it to our good friend Michi for his birthday a while back.</p>
<p>I've had no problems finding the Dell issues, but a much tougher time with the early GKs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Dan - as for Gold Keyâ€™s â€˜UFO and Flying Saucersâ€™, as far as I can tell - one issue was published in each of 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976 and four issue were published in 1977. It was renamed in 1978. UFO &amp; Outer Space was published four times in 1978, 1979 and 1980.

This is unconfirmed info, as I donâ€™t have many of the early 70s issues, and the GCD has next to no info on the series.

I have the complete run, though of course not here at work, but here&#039;s the breakdown as given by Lone Star Comics (which I often use to supplement gaps on the GCD, not to mention when the latter is down) --

1 -- 10/68
2 -- 11/70
3 -- 11/72
4 -- 11/74
5 -- 2/75
6 -- 5/75
7 -- 8/75
8 -- 11/75
9 -- 1/76
10 -- 5/76
11 -- 8/76
12 -- 11/76
13 -- 1/77
(name change)
14 -- 6/78
15 -- 7/78
16 -- 8/78
17 -- 9/78
18 -- 11/78
19 -- 11/79
20 -- 4/79
21 -- 6/79
22 -- 8/79
23 -- 10/79
24 -- 12/79
25 -- 2/80

That&#039;s a pretty checkered publishing history. Has any other comic gone on to last 25 issues (or even 13, if one is of a mind to regard &quot;UFO Flying Saucers&quot;&amp; UFO &amp; &quot;Outer Space&quot; as separate entities) after coming out only every TWO years over the course of its first 4 issues. (For that matter, just how many every-2-year comics have there been, period?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Dan - as for Gold Keyâ€™s â€˜UFO and Flying Saucersâ€™, as far as I can tell - one issue was published in each of 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976 and four issue were published in 1977. It was renamed in 1978. UFO &amp; Outer Space was published four times in 1978, 1979 and 1980.</p>
<p>This is unconfirmed info, as I donâ€™t have many of the early 70s issues, and the GCD has next to no info on the series.</p>
<p>I have the complete run, though of course not here at work, but here's the breakdown as given by Lone Star Comics (which I often use to supplement gaps on the GCD, not to mention when the latter is down) --</p>
<p>1 -- 10/68<br />
2 -- 11/70<br />
3 -- 11/72<br />
4 -- 11/74<br />
5 -- 2/75<br />
6 -- 5/75<br />
7 -- 8/75<br />
8 -- 11/75<br />
9 -- 1/76<br />
10 -- 5/76<br />
11 -- 8/76<br />
12 -- 11/76<br />
13 -- 1/77<br />
(name change)<br />
14 -- 6/78<br />
15 -- 7/78<br />
16 -- 8/78<br />
17 -- 9/78<br />
18 -- 11/78<br />
19 -- 11/79<br />
20 -- 4/79<br />
21 -- 6/79<br />
22 -- 8/79<br />
23 -- 10/79<br />
24 -- 12/79<br />
25 -- 2/80</p>
<p>That's a pretty checkered publishing history. Has any other comic gone on to last 25 issues (or even 13, if one is of a mind to regard "UFO Flying Saucers"&amp; UFO &amp; "Outer Space" as separate entities) after coming out only every TWO years over the course of its first 4 issues. (For that matter, just how many every-2-year comics have there been, period?)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how no matter how desperate the situation - comic book men of the 40s, 50s and 60s are always ultra concerned about keeping their hats atop their head.

For the record - the one with the cowboy was the first I bought off the racks (in a 3-pack, IIRC)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how no matter how desperate the situation - comic book men of the 40s, 50s and 60s are always ultra concerned about keeping their hats atop their head.</p>
<p>For the record - the one with the cowboy was the first I bought off the racks (in a 3-pack, IIRC)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Valois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Valois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UFO Flying Saucers Giant Comic (second row, 1st cover) spoke to me off the rack of my local drugstore when it was frist released and I just HAD to buy it.  It&#039;s cover is still one of my all-time favorites, primarily for the &quot;little men&quot; staring out the UFO windows.  What&#039;s most memorable is the outright desperation of the human victims.  No place to hide with a giant saucer shooting lasers at them.  If they should happen to miss, there&#039;s another 4 coming to get you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UFO Flying Saucers Giant Comic (second row, 1st cover) spoke to me off the rack of my local drugstore when it was frist released and I just HAD to buy it.  It's cover is still one of my all-time favorites, primarily for the "little men" staring out the UFO windows.  What's most memorable is the outright desperation of the human victims.  No place to hide with a giant saucer shooting lasers at them.  If they should happen to miss, there's another 4 coming to get you.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone has or gets new UFO photos, please upload them to ufofotos.com. It only takes a few seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone has or gets new UFO photos, please upload them to ufofotos.com. It only takes a few seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My memory of Marvel Preview #1 is that the lead feature, involving an advanced race of space aliens coming to Earth and helping apes become humans, was presented as a &quot;this could be true&quot; story, but I could be wrong.  It had some nice art by Alex Nino, a Philippine (?) artist whose work in Marvel&#039;s b&amp;w line I always liked.  I think there were also two or three text pieces about von Daniken and his theories, and probably one other comics story that I don&#039;t remember at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My memory of Marvel Preview #1 is that the lead feature, involving an advanced race of space aliens coming to Earth and helping apes become humans, was presented as a "this could be true" story, but I could be wrong.  It had some nice art by Alex Nino, a Philippine (?) artist whose work in Marvel's b&amp;w line I always liked.  I think there were also two or three text pieces about von Daniken and his theories, and probably one other comics story that I don't remember at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments everyone - collective memory is always the best.

Dan - as for Gold Key&#039;s &#039;UFO and Flying Saucers&#039;, as far as I can tell - one issue was published in each of 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976 and four issue were published in 1977. It was renamed in 1978. UFO &amp; Outer Space was published four times in 1978, 1979 and 1980.

This is unconfirmed info, as I don&#039;t have many of the early 70s issues, and the GCD has next to no info on the series.

Did either of the Warren book or the Marvel Preview issue feature &#039;real stories&#039; or were they original stories?

David - I&#039;m trying to forget what little I know of the Eerie Publications magazines. Although, a feature on their craziest covers might be fun.

It&#039;s really amazing how much work people like Sparling and Stone did during the late 60s and early 70s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments everyone - collective memory is always the best.</p>
<p>Dan - as for Gold Key's 'UFO and Flying Saucers', as far as I can tell - one issue was published in each of 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976 and four issue were published in 1977. It was renamed in 1978. UFO &amp; Outer Space was published four times in 1978, 1979 and 1980.</p>
<p>This is unconfirmed info, as I don't have many of the early 70s issues, and the GCD has next to no info on the series.</p>
<p>Did either of the Warren book or the Marvel Preview issue feature 'real stories' or were they original stories?</p>
<p>David - I'm trying to forget what little I know of the Eerie Publications magazines. Although, a feature on their craziest covers might be fun.</p>
<p>It's really amazing how much work people like Sparling and Stone did during the late 60s and early 70s.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gold key also in 1978,put out a softcover reprint collection,that had most if not all of the 1968 first issue in. It cost 1.95. Still have my copy. Now how about a feature on how artists such as sparling &amp; Stone did work for the God aweful immatation warren horrer black and white line that limped through 1966 to 1974? They had terrible stories,with excessive gore.Weird was one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gold key also in 1978,put out a softcover reprint collection,that had most if not all of the 1968 first issue in. It cost 1.95. Still have my copy. Now how about a feature on how artists such as sparling &amp; Stone did work for the God aweful immatation warren horrer black and white line that limped through 1966 to 1974? They had terrible stories,with excessive gore.Weird was one.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And when I say &quot;inspired by . . . &quot; I mean &quot;cashing in on . . .&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when I say "inspired by . . . " I mean "cashing in on . . ."</p>
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		<title>By: Rob M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before the 1978-79 CE3K-inspired wave of UFO comics, there was an earlier one in the mid -70s inspired by Erich von Daniken&#039;s books.  The first issue of Marvel&#039;s B&amp;W Marvel Premiere featuring &quot;Man-Gods from Beyond the Stars&quot; was an example.  http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=28163&amp;zoom=4  
The typeface of the title was the same as the typeface used in the paperback editions of von Daniken&#039;s books that were bestsellers around that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before the 1978-79 CE3K-inspired wave of UFO comics, there was an earlier one in the mid -70s inspired by Erich von Daniken's books.  The first issue of Marvel's B&amp;W Marvel Premiere featuring "Man-Gods from Beyond the Stars" was an example.  <a href="http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=28163&amp;zoom=4" rel="nofollow">http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=28163&amp;zoom=4</a><br />
The typeface of the title was the same as the typeface used in the paperback editions of von Daniken's books that were bestsellers around that time.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... both in 1978, that is.</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bingo!

Thanks for pointing that out. I didn&#039;t see the flick the first time around (too immersed in college, I guess, though I did catch a 1980 &quot;Special Edition&quot; screening) &amp; just wasn&#039;t making the connection. No doubt that&#039;s also behind Warren&#039;s coming out with its reprint one-shot &quot;UFO &amp; Alien Comix&quot; &amp; Marvel devoting &quot;Marvel Preview 13&quot; to &quot;The UFO Connection.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo!</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't see the flick the first time around (too immersed in college, I guess, though I did catch a 1980 "Special Edition" screening) &amp; just wasn't making the connection. No doubt that's also behind Warren's coming out with its reprint one-shot "UFO &amp; Alien Comix" &amp; Marvel devoting "Marvel Preview 13" to "The UFO Connection."</p>
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		<title>By: R. J. Sterling</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. J. Sterling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s just after &quot;Close Encounters of the Third kind&quot; came out, yo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's just after "Close Encounters of the Third kind" came out, yo.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;There must have been a real surge in UFO mania, as 12 issues of UFO &amp; Outer Space were published in less than two years.

After the &#039;50s, the two big &quot;flaps&quot; of UFO sightings in the U.S. occurred in &#039;67 &amp; &#039;73 (during which latter year, the GCD indicates, precisely *no*  issues of the Gold Key series appeared, for some bizarre reason). From glancing at the GCD, the 12-issue sequence you&#039;re referring to would&#039;ve been from &#039;78-&#039;80. What might&#039;ve been going on then, I&#039;m not sure ... but maybe I&#039;m overlooking something obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;There must have been a real surge in UFO mania, as 12 issues of UFO &amp; Outer Space were published in less than two years.</p>
<p>After the '50s, the two big "flaps" of UFO sightings in the U.S. occurred in '67 &amp; '73 (during which latter year, the GCD indicates, precisely *no*  issues of the Gold Key series appeared, for some bizarre reason). From glancing at the GCD, the 12-issue sequence you're referring to would've been from '78-'80. What might've been going on then, I'm not sure ... but maybe I'm overlooking something obvious.</p>
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