Comments on: Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed #175

By: Mark Temporis

Mark Temporis — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:19:32 +0000

FGM, I think Baytor got moved over to HITMAN, where wank jokes wouldn't particularly seem out of place.

By: wwk5d

wwk5d — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:58:44 +0000

Ah, Julia Carpenter. One of my favorite C-listers, in a she-has-great-potential-and-I-hope-a-good-writer-uses-her-well-again kind of way.

By: BRiAN

BRiAN — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:45:25 +0000

wow, Brian Cornin, I think that your post is the first genuine example of Post Post-Modernism i've ever seen.

By: Al-X

Al-X — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:15:57 +0000

Yes indeedy, the original black Spider-Man costume had a red spider on the chest and red patches on the top of the hands. I was conversing with Tom DeFalco at a Con (waaaay back in the day) and he showed me some costume design sketches that Rick Leonardi had done. I was shocked to see the white spider on the chest when ASM #252 came out.

By: FunkyGreenJerusalem

FunkyGreenJerusalem — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:56:21 +0000

Garth Ennis had a demon named 'Baytor' who he wanted to become 'Master Baytor' and have all the demons of hell chant 'All hail the master baytor', back when he was writing The Demon.
Apparently it was only at the very last moment that someone realised what he was doing.
(I remember this from a Wizard interview years and years ago).

By: quagmire70

quagmire70 — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:58:41 +0000

Just wondering if anybody knows if Spider-Man's black costume was always intended to be an alien symbiote or if fan backlash made Marvel come up with that as a way out. I know it could appear as other clothing and seemed to be alive, but Marvel could have come up with some kind of sci-fi explanation if people liked the costume enough.

By: SpiffyMcgee

SpiffyMcgee — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:45:30 +0000

FIRST!!!

By: JeffF

JeffF — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:50:45 +0000

Since I don't read the Star Wars comics, when Bayts was killed, did Yoda say anything like, "So long, young Master Bayts"? Hmm?

By: Harlan J. Bryan

Harlan J. Bryan — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:22:50 +0000

I remember at some point in a letters column, a reader stating that the UPC box for the direct sale editions had the black costume Spider-Man's face in it, and it always reminded him of Spider-Man smoking an exploding cigar...I laugh every time I see it.

By: Shane

Shane — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:27:51 +0000

Zeck says a few changes to the costume. I remember a Marvel Age that came out the same time asSecret Wars that showed sketches of the new costume(Done by Leonardi if I remember the look right0, where the Spider and spots on top of his hands were RED. Looked great,guess they didnt use it because they wouldnt be able to use the blue body highlights.Looked alot cooler tho.Anyone have a copy ?

By: Michael-Sensei

Michael-Sensei — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 05:26:54 +0000

If you really want to listen to tons of vintage comic-themed music, you could always visit the ARFLOVERS site. Lots of other good stuff there too.

By: Graeme Burk

Graeme Burk — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:08:31 +0000

IIRC, in order to satisfy the fans of the original red & blues, as well as those of the stylish black costume, it was considered for a time to have Peter wear both. The R&B for daytime adventures and the black for night adventures.

Good grief... why not just have Spider-Man wear one costume for home games and another for away games?

By: BillyH

BillyH — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:39:00 +0000

Jan & Dean's Batman single is on Itunes if anyone wants a listen...

By: OM

OM — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:21:12 +0000

...It would appear that Master Baytes blew his wad rather quickly.

By: David Serchay

David Serchay — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:21:00 +0000

"Yup, I used to watch soaps with my late grandmother, and they have been using comic book plots for yearsâ€¦look at the the story of John Black, alias the Phoenix, on DOOL (he has more identities than the Shadow or Moon-Knight). "

Heck, I explained to a friend the whole Cyclops-Jean-Madyline storyline in X-Men by comparing it to the Marlena-Roman-John storyline on DOOL.

By: Wilbur Lunch

Wilbur Lunch — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:07:05 +0000

@Sijo:
"As for Spider-Manâ€™s black costume, I always assumed it was designed first, for the same reasons given- it debuted first, and the change was the whole point. Still, canonically, Arachneâ€™s costume was designed first by her, and Peter DID intentionally copy hers -he admitted it in the comics- though of course, since the costume later turned out to be sentient, maybe we can assume it was the symbiote who actually decided it liked it! "

IIRC, Spider-Man admitted to *suconsciously* copying her costume... Which I always thought was a little weak. Actually, wouldn't it be cool if it turns out Spider-Woman's costume was a symbiote too? And has been for all these years?

By: StereotypeA

StereotypeA — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:38:32 +0000

I liked The Other.

By: Mike Blake

Mike Blake — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:36:31 +0000

Basara,

Yup, I used to watch soaps with my late grandmother, and they have been using comic book plots for years...look at the the story of John Black, alias the Phoenix, on DOOL (he has more identities than the Shadow or Moon-Knight). Or when the evil Cassadine family froze Port Charles in a hot August using their ice ray on General Hospital. Or the storyline I only heard about (don't know the name), where the soap's city turned out to built above the lost underground kingdom of Eternia...

By: Basara

Basara — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:04:40 +0000

Actually, thanks to my having to suffer through my mother's taping of soaps to watch after she got home from work, I know that "Holding out for a Hero" was used repeatedly in "Days of Our Lives in the early 1980s as Bo Brady's theme song in the show - which probably out-corns anything Burton & steinman would have on stage (That soap has more returns from the dead than a major comic book publisher, not to mention brainwashing, demonic possession, etc. etc. etc....)

By: Alex

Alex — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:58:21 +0000

Looking at the alien costume part made me sad of what Spider-man became in the last three years. It's even more sad that it may of been planned out that way. He's magic, he dies by some generic guy comes back in a cocoon, gets a new job, gets a new costume, get's revealed (that's the point Spider-man was over), and then some other stuff happened. None of all that mattered because all the 'people' cared about was getting him unmarried. I think we all knew it and boy is that book awful. Enjoy that great guest spot by some basic cable guy. Could you ever see many of todays musicians doing stints in the armed services? I can't.