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		<title>By: bats</title>
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		<dc:creator>bats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 16:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isn&#039;t santos latino...im sure ive seen him speaking spanish in the xmen comic books?</description>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EEK!

Brian, I heart you so much for making Helena number one.

I f***ing, love Helena; at the moment, I am currently reading any title that makes even the slightest mention of her.

As for Madison&#039;s Year One, I liked it, though I thought some of the dialogue was corny (particularly the overt religious references.)

In the words of Nek:

PerchÃ¨ mi piaci
In ogni modo
Da ogni lato o prospettiva tu

Because I like you
In every way
From every side (or perspective of) you

Sei solo tu, Helena and Brian. ;)

â™¥</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EEK!</p>
<p>Brian, I heart you so much for making Helena number one.</p>
<p>I f***ing, love Helena; at the moment, I am currently reading any title that makes even the slightest mention of her.</p>
<p>As for Madison's Year One, I liked it, though I thought some of the dialogue was corny (particularly the overt religious references.)</p>
<p>In the words of Nek:</p>
<p>PerchÃ¨ mi piaci<br />
In ogni modo<br />
Da ogni lato o prospettiva tu</p>
<p>Because I like you<br />
In every way<br />
From every side (or perspective of) you</p>
<p>Sei solo tu, Helena and Brian. <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>â™¥</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Funny that this makes it seem as though Rockslide is the first Italian-descended X-Man! Why wasnâ€™t there one sooner?&quot;

There was. Paul Provenzano was a member of Jean Grey&#039;s ad hoc team right before Morrison&#039;s run started. And Guido was a member of Moria McTaggart&#039;s &quot;Muir Island X-Men&quot; during the Australian period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Funny that this makes it seem as though Rockslide is the first Italian-descended X-Man! Why wasnâ€™t there one sooner?"</p>
<p>There was. Paul Provenzano was a member of Jean Grey's ad hoc team right before Morrison's run started. And Guido was a member of Moria McTaggart's "Muir Island X-Men" during the Australian period.</p>
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		<title>By: Libaax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libaax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see Guido in the list.   He is a big favorite of mine.</description>
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		<title>By: Ben Herman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard some good buzz about Ron Marz&#039;s run on Witchblade.  Have any of his issues been collected ito TPBs yet?

By the by, it&#039;s nice to see that, aside from Huntress and Argent, the characters on this list were NOT a relative of a Mafia crime lord.  That cliche is so played out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've heard some good buzz about Ron Marz's run on Witchblade.  Have any of his issues been collected ito TPBs yet?</p>
<p>By the by, it's nice to see that, aside from Huntress and Argent, the characters on this list were NOT a relative of a Mafia crime lord.  That cliche is so played out.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Zatara is not even human, so I donâ€™t count him as Italian-American.&quot;

Surely the same applies to Strong Guy, who&#039;s not homo sapiens either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Zatara is not even human, so I donâ€™t count him as Italian-American."</p>
<p>Surely the same applies to Strong Guy, who's not homo sapiens either.</p>
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		<title>By: Basara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given some of the hypotheses floating around that Columbus WASN&#039;T really Italian, think of the alternative lists that could have existed.

1. Top Five BASQUE Superheroes (have there even been 5?)
2. Top Five Superheroes that were secretly Jewish

For the person who made the stupid &quot;Killed Indians&quot; remark....

Maybe one of these days you ought to study real history, and not political propaganda. Native Americans were killing &amp; enslaving each other for thousands of years before the Spaniards arrived. There&#039;s a reason why a lot of tribes are commonly known today by the invectives and slurs OTHER tribes called them (The Apache, The Sioux, etc.). The main thing that white man brought was disease (which killed plenty enough, and frankly it wasn&#039;t too kind to Europeans, either), not to mention a tendency to double-cross (anyone, even each other) that was anethema to the trust-based societies that were common in North America. Central &amp; South America, on the other hand, were full of bloody backstabbers and warmongers that only fell to the Spanish, from having inferior technology - in terms of atrocities pre-Columbus they made the Inquisition seem tame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given some of the hypotheses floating around that Columbus WASN'T really Italian, think of the alternative lists that could have existed.</p>
<p>1. Top Five BASQUE Superheroes (have there even been 5?)<br />
2. Top Five Superheroes that were secretly Jewish</p>
<p>For the person who made the stupid "Killed Indians" remark....</p>
<p>Maybe one of these days you ought to study real history, and not political propaganda. Native Americans were killing &amp; enslaving each other for thousands of years before the Spaniards arrived. There's a reason why a lot of tribes are commonly known today by the invectives and slurs OTHER tribes called them (The Apache, The Sioux, etc.). The main thing that white man brought was disease (which killed plenty enough, and frankly it wasn't too kind to Europeans, either), not to mention a tendency to double-cross (anyone, even each other) that was anethema to the trust-based societies that were common in North America. Central &amp; South America, on the other hand, were full of bloody backstabbers and warmongers that only fell to the Spanish, from having inferior technology - in terms of atrocities pre-Columbus they made the Inquisition seem tame.</p>
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		<title>By: Sijo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sijo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&quot;If you want to accept Wikipedia as the authority, check out their Homo Magi page, they list tons of magic users who arenâ€™t Homo Magi.&quot;

Come on, that&#039;s not the same thing. By magic user, I meant someone who *naturally* has the ability to learn magic. ALL of those are of Magi descent. Of course people can gain magic in other ways, in the same way many heroes and villains gain powers despite not having the metagene. That doesn&#039;t make them true wizards.

And anyway, the original point was that Zatanna is of Italian descent, more so than being Homo Magi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;"If you want to accept Wikipedia as the authority, check out their Homo Magi page, they list tons of magic users who arenâ€™t Homo Magi."</p>
<p>Come on, that's not the same thing. By magic user, I meant someone who *naturally* has the ability to learn magic. ALL of those are of Magi descent. Of course people can gain magic in other ways, in the same way many heroes and villains gain powers despite not having the metagene. That doesn't make them true wizards.</p>
<p>And anyway, the original point was that Zatanna is of Italian descent, more so than being Homo Magi.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Curran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Curran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop discriminating against the homo magi, Cronin! Especially when you are such a mutie lover!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop discriminating against the homo magi, Cronin! Especially when you are such a mutie lover!</p>
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		<title>By: R. J. Sterling</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. J. Sterling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny that this makes it seem as though Rockslide is the first Italian-descended X-Man! Why wasn&#039;t there one sooner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny that this makes it seem as though Rockslide is the first Italian-descended X-Man! Why wasn't there one sooner?</p>
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		<title>By: Scavenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scavenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and it was there that David made the character a total fan-favorite&quot;

An interesting list might be top 5 background/left over characters PAD has made cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"and it was there that David made the character a total fan-favorite"</p>
<p>An interesting list might be top 5 background/left over characters PAD has made cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think it&#039;s silly that Guido (Homo Superior) is considered human, while Zatanna/Zatara (Homo Magi) isn&#039;t. 

Doesn&#039;t make any sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think it's silly that Guido (Homo Superior) is considered human, while Zatanna/Zatara (Homo Magi) isn't. </p>
<p>Doesn't make any sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny zito</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny zito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zatara may be genetically Homo Magi (whatever) but his nation of origin is Italy.  Just like Wolverine is Canadian.

Frank Castle changed his name to break into show business.

Here&#039;s my list:

1 - Raphael 
2 - Leonardo
3 - Michaelangelo
4 - Donatello 
5 - Luigi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zatara may be genetically Homo Magi (whatever) but his nation of origin is Italy.  Just like Wolverine is Canadian.</p>
<p>Frank Castle changed his name to break into show business.</p>
<p>Here's my list:</p>
<p>1 - Raphael<br />
2 - Leonardo<br />
3 - Michaelangelo<br />
4 - Donatello<br />
5 - Luigi</p>
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		<title>By: Annoyed Grunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annoyed Grunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For reference, The Punisher never even had a first name until he got his own limited series in the 80&#039;s.  From the first mention they revealed that he changed his name from Castiglione to Castle but didn&#039;t give a reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For reference, The Punisher never even had a first name until he got his own limited series in the 80's.  From the first mention they revealed that he changed his name from Castiglione to Castle but didn't give a reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually what&#039;s going on here with Zatara is the somewhat common mixing up of species, race, and ethnicity/nationality.

Homo Maji is supposed to represent a species separate from Homo Sapiens, which the rest of us are.  It really isn&#039;t separate as someone else stated above since fertile offspring between the two is possible.  It&#039;s really more of a race such as black, Asian, and Caucasion.  Most people are some mix of the three.  Nationality/Ethnicity is really based on what location your ancestors lived in and is heavily tied to culture.  The majority of Zatara&#039;s ancestors were born in and lived their lives in Italy.  I can&#039;t say for sure they were citizens since I don&#039;t know the history of Italian citizenship laws, but many countries used to require property ownership to qualify as a citizen, so it really doesn&#039;t matter here. 

Even if he does have an ancestor or two who were Homo Maji, and they didn&#039;t reside in Italy, the majority of his ancestors did and that&#039;s the culture he comes from.  Do we disqualify someone as Italian because their great-great-great-...-great grandmother was French? or even Japanese?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually what's going on here with Zatara is the somewhat common mixing up of species, race, and ethnicity/nationality.</p>
<p>Homo Maji is supposed to represent a species separate from Homo Sapiens, which the rest of us are.  It really isn't separate as someone else stated above since fertile offspring between the two is possible.  It's really more of a race such as black, Asian, and Caucasion.  Most people are some mix of the three.  Nationality/Ethnicity is really based on what location your ancestors lived in and is heavily tied to culture.  The majority of Zatara's ancestors were born in and lived their lives in Italy.  I can't say for sure they were citizens since I don't know the history of Italian citizenship laws, but many countries used to require property ownership to qualify as a citizen, so it really doesn't matter here. </p>
<p>Even if he does have an ancestor or two who were Homo Maji, and they didn't reside in Italy, the majority of his ancestors did and that's the culture he comes from.  Do we disqualify someone as Italian because their great-great-great-...-great grandmother was French? or even Japanese?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ALL of DCâ€™s magic users are descended from Homo Magi. Check Wikipedia for details. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you want to accept Wikipedia as the authority, check out their Homo Magi page, they list tons of magic users who aren&#039;t Homo Magi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>ALL of DCâ€™s magic users are descended from Homo Magi. Check Wikipedia for details. </p></blockquote>
<p>If you want to accept Wikipedia as the authority, check out their Homo Magi page, they list tons of magic users who aren't Homo Magi.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Not completely sure here, but I think the point was that Helena being Catholic was very much a part of her origin and her identity. The idea is that she makes a big deal about her religion, yet still kills, which should be against that religion. We know that people of all faiths can kill, but if one calls themself a devout [insert religion here], youâ€™d think they would not kill.&lt;&lt;

One would hope so, indeed, but of course all of the major religions (that I know of, anyway) have blood on their hands, as it were, at least historically. Now, if Helena adhered to a religion that emphasizes the sanctity of all life -- like, say, Jainism -- that&#039;d be different ...

(No, I don&#039;t follow Jainism. I don&#039;t follow *anything*, for better or worse.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Not completely sure here, but I think the point was that Helena being Catholic was very much a part of her origin and her identity. The idea is that she makes a big deal about her religion, yet still kills, which should be against that religion. We know that people of all faiths can kill, but if one calls themself a devout [insert religion here], youâ€™d think they would not kill.&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>One would hope so, indeed, but of course all of the major religions (that I know of, anyway) have blood on their hands, as it were, at least historically. Now, if Helena adhered to a religion that emphasizes the sanctity of all life -- like, say, Jainism -- that'd be different ...</p>
<p>(No, I don't follow Jainism. I don't follow *anything*, for better or worse.)</p>
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		<title>By: Sijo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sijo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALL of DC&#039;s magic users are descended from Homo Magi. Check Wikipedia for details. 

Besides, saying that Homo Magi are not human is like saying the X-Men aren&#039;t human because they are &quot;Homo Superior.&quot;

Of course, maybe you meant that in a cultural sense: after all being &#039;Italian&#039; is not a genetic thing. Some &quot;pureblooded&quot; Homo Magi life in their own hidden civilization, and Zatanna&#039;s mother Sindella  comes from it. However, Sindella did not raise Zatanna, so neither she (nor Zatara) can be considered to be culturally &quot;Homo Magi&quot; either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL of DC's magic users are descended from Homo Magi. Check Wikipedia for details. </p>
<p>Besides, saying that Homo Magi are not human is like saying the X-Men aren't human because they are "Homo Superior."</p>
<p>Of course, maybe you meant that in a cultural sense: after all being 'Italian' is not a genetic thing. Some "pureblooded" Homo Magi life in their own hidden civilization, and Zatanna's mother Sindella  comes from it. However, Sindella did not raise Zatanna, so neither she (nor Zatara) can be considered to be culturally "Homo Magi" either.</p>
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		<title>By: Dario Delfino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dario Delfino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zatanna&#039;s one of ours, no discussion necessary.  All of our people are descended from Homo Magi.

I was particularly fond of the Alpha-Centurion.  Sure, he was a dick, but he was interesting.

Both DC &amp; Marvel has Contessas (Luthor&#039;s ex-wife, Nick Fury&#039;s gal), both are Italian.

And of course, who can forget Pumaman?  Say what you will about his flying ability, but you wish you had Donald Pleasance in your rogue&#039;s gallery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zatanna's one of ours, no discussion necessary.  All of our people are descended from Homo Magi.</p>
<p>I was particularly fond of the Alpha-Centurion.  Sure, he was a dick, but he was interesting.</p>
<p>Both DC &amp; Marvel has Contessas (Luthor's ex-wife, Nick Fury's gal), both are Italian.</p>
<p>And of course, who can forget Pumaman?  Say what you will about his flying ability, but you wish you had Donald Pleasance in your rogue's gallery.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Santo&#039;s on the Wikipedia list of Italian Americans, but I always thought he was Hispanic as well.

Saying that Mirage from the Titans is on the Wikipedia lis of Native Americans, despite being Brazilian a very non-Native American name (Miriam Delgado)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santo's on the Wikipedia list of Italian Americans, but I always thought he was Hispanic as well.</p>
<p>Saying that Mirage from the Titans is on the Wikipedia lis of Native Americans, despite being Brazilian a very non-Native American name (Miriam Delgado)</p>
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