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	<title>Comments on: Lorendiac&#039;s &quot;Character Aliases That Marvel and DC Have Both Used&quot; (3rd Draft)</title>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Stranger
DC - Martian criminal Batman fought in Batman #78
Marvel - a big superpowerful entity, not sure of his first appearance.

The next is for groups of people

The Hidden Ones
DC - a group of genetic witches, also known as Homo magus - Justice League of America #164
Marvel - a group of Inhuman outcasts from Fantastic Four #51-54 (Volume 3)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Stranger<br />
DC - Martian criminal Batman fought in Batman #78<br />
Marvel - a big superpowerful entity, not sure of his first appearance.</p>
<p>The next is for groups of people</p>
<p>The Hidden Ones<br />
DC - a group of genetic witches, also known as Homo magus - Justice League of America #164<br />
Marvel - a group of Inhuman outcasts from Fantastic Four #51-54 (Volume 3)</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Raven
DC - Leader of a criminal gang on an unidentified parallel Earth - World&#039;s Finest Comics #136
Marvel - winged hero - Red Raven Comics #1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Raven<br />
DC - Leader of a criminal gang on an unidentified parallel Earth - World's Finest Comics #136<br />
Marvel - winged hero - Red Raven Comics #1</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lizard
DC - evil spy who fought the Metal Men - Metal Men #26
Marvel - Dr. Curt Connors</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lizard<br />
DC - evil spy who fought the Metal Men - Metal Men #26<br />
Marvel - Dr. Curt Connors</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another DC Dragon Fly, a villainess, appeared in Batman #181.

Green Lantern #49 featured a villain named The Dazzler.
Marvel, of course, has a character named Dazzler, you might have heard about. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another DC Dragon Fly, a villainess, appeared in Batman #181.</p>
<p>Green Lantern #49 featured a villain named The Dazzler.<br />
Marvel, of course, has a character named Dazzler, you might have heard about. <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops! That &quot;Anonymous&quot; comment was from me; I&#039;m not at my usual PC and I didn&#039;t realize it wouldn&#039;t automatically populate those fields to say it was me, Lorendiac, speaking.

KAM -- as I recall, while I was working on my Third Draft I realized that I didn&#039;t know what characters, aside from those created for the Ultraverse of the mid-90s, had passed into Marvel&#039;s control when they bought Malibu. I have a few odds and ends from other Malibu titles in my collection -- at least one Ex-Mutants TPB, and maybe a couple of issues of Protectors -- but I&#039;m no expert on the subject of all that they published and who each character concept belonged to. That was another subject I filed away for a rainy day -- &quot;worry about it for the Fourth Draft!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops! That "Anonymous" comment was from me; I'm not at my usual PC and I didn't realize it wouldn't automatically populate those fields to say it was me, Lorendiac, speaking.</p>
<p>KAM -- as I recall, while I was working on my Third Draft I realized that I didn't know what characters, aside from those created for the Ultraverse of the mid-90s, had passed into Marvel's control when they bought Malibu. I have a few odds and ends from other Malibu titles in my collection -- at least one Ex-Mutants TPB, and maybe a couple of issues of Protectors -- but I'm no expert on the subject of all that they published and who each character concept belonged to. That was another subject I filed away for a rainy day -- "worry about it for the Fourth Draft!"</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graeme White -- thanks for those other two you mentioned. It&#039;s been so long since I read any of the &quot;Chase&quot; back issues in my collection that I just barely remembered her daddy had been a superhero once upon a time; I couldn&#039;t remember his fancy alias at all. (Heck, I&#039;d also forgotten the name &quot;Justice Experience.&quot;) 

I&#039;ve paid no attention to anything that&#039;s been done with the name &quot;Infinity Inc.&quot; in the last few years, so I didn&#039;t know anything about the latest Fury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graeme White -- thanks for those other two you mentioned. It's been so long since I read any of the "Chase" back issues in my collection that I just barely remembered her daddy had been a superhero once upon a time; I couldn't remember his fancy alias at all. (Heck, I'd also forgotten the name "Justice Experience.") </p>
<p>I've paid no attention to anything that's been done with the name "Infinity Inc." in the last few years, so I didn't know anything about the latest Fury.</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The character I was thinking of was actually The Archer, not Arrow. Ah, well.

I probably should mention that the names I&#039;ve supplied of Metal Men, Flash, Metamorpho Spider-Man villains came from comics I own. The rest came from comic reference books or online references.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The character I was thinking of was actually The Archer, not Arrow. Ah, well.</p>
<p>I probably should mention that the names I've supplied of Metal Men, Flash, Metamorpho Spider-Man villains came from comics I own. The rest came from comic reference books or online references.</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops!  Meant to say that &quot;Gravestone was based on Centaur&#039;s Fantoman who was also known as the Fantom Of The Fair.&quot;

Kind of got lost when I rewrote that part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops!  Meant to say that "Gravestone was based on Centaur's Fantoman who was also known as the Fantom Of The Fair."</p>
<p>Kind of got lost when I rewrote that part.</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More info on names you have

Creeper - original Marvel Creeper was a funny animal villain in the 1940s

Falcon - also a Marvel hero in the 1940s

Nightshade was also a DC villain in a 1940s story

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More DC Elements

Metamorpho fought a team of villainous robots named Hafnium, Osmium, Selenium, Strontium, Tantalium &amp; Thallium.

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Missing shared names

El Diablo
DC - originally a villain in a 1938 story, later the names of 2 heroes
Marvel - a Sub-Mariner villain from 1955

Hercules (as far as I know these characters were not the mythical one)
DC - a superstrong hero from the 1940s in Quality comics
Marvel - a giant superstrong genius in the 1940s

Nightman/The Night Man
DC - apparently a Batman replacement from a World&#039;s Finest story
Marvel - Malibu property, purchased by Marvel

Shade
DC - Golden Age villain
Marvel - 2001 Spider-Man villain

Sin-Eater
DC - Thanagaran devil
Marvel - Insane killer

The Thunderer
DC - Metamorpho villain
Marvel - Golden Age hero who later changed name to Black Avenger

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When Marvel bought Malibu did they get the rights to the Protectors? If so then there would be 1-3 more.

Amazing Man
DC - several heroes
Malibu, revival of old Centaur Comics character

Fantom Of The Fair/Phantom Of The Fair
DC - retconned Golden Age villain from a 1980s story
Okaaaaaaaayyyyyyy... the character of Gravestone was originally known as the Fantom Of The Fair. I do not know if Malibu&#039;s version of the character was said to have used the Fantom Of The Fair name, though.

The Arrow
I think a character calling himself The Arrow might have appeared as either a villain or wannabe hero in an early Superman story, but I&#039;ll have to double-check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More info on names you have</p>
<p>Creeper - original Marvel Creeper was a funny animal villain in the 1940s</p>
<p>Falcon - also a Marvel hero in the 1940s</p>
<p>Nightshade was also a DC villain in a 1940s story</p>
<p>---</p>
<p>More DC Elements</p>
<p>Metamorpho fought a team of villainous robots named Hafnium, Osmium, Selenium, Strontium, Tantalium &amp; Thallium.</p>
<p>---</p>
<p>Missing shared names</p>
<p>El Diablo<br />
DC - originally a villain in a 1938 story, later the names of 2 heroes<br />
Marvel - a Sub-Mariner villain from 1955</p>
<p>Hercules (as far as I know these characters were not the mythical one)<br />
DC - a superstrong hero from the 1940s in Quality comics<br />
Marvel - a giant superstrong genius in the 1940s</p>
<p>Nightman/The Night Man<br />
DC - apparently a Batman replacement from a World's Finest story<br />
Marvel - Malibu property, purchased by Marvel</p>
<p>Shade<br />
DC - Golden Age villain<br />
Marvel - 2001 Spider-Man villain</p>
<p>Sin-Eater<br />
DC - Thanagaran devil<br />
Marvel - Insane killer</p>
<p>The Thunderer<br />
DC - Metamorpho villain<br />
Marvel - Golden Age hero who later changed name to Black Avenger</p>
<p>---</p>
<p>When Marvel bought Malibu did they get the rights to the Protectors? If so then there would be 1-3 more.</p>
<p>Amazing Man<br />
DC - several heroes<br />
Malibu, revival of old Centaur Comics character</p>
<p>Fantom Of The Fair/Phantom Of The Fair<br />
DC - retconned Golden Age villain from a 1980s story<br />
Okaaaaaaaayyyyyyy... the character of Gravestone was originally known as the Fantom Of The Fair. I do not know if Malibu's version of the character was said to have used the Fantom Of The Fair name, though.</p>
<p>The Arrow<br />
I think a character calling himself The Arrow might have appeared as either a villain or wannabe hero in an early Superman story, but I'll have to double-check.</p>
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		<title>By: DT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Arak&quot; and &quot;Arion&quot; were minor characters in Marvel&#039;s &quot;Starlord&quot; before the two DC series by those names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Arak" and "Arion" were minor characters in Marvel's "Starlord" before the two DC series by those names.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KAM -- thanks. And you&#039;re right: Logically, if I&#039;m counting Elements of Doom who were never actually named in dialogue -- we were just told in general terms that they existed -- then I should extend the same courtesy to any of Mr. Element&#039;s henchmen who were only &quot;implicitly&quot; named rather than explicitly called by those names in dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KAM -- thanks. And you're right: Logically, if I'm counting Elements of Doom who were never actually named in dialogue -- we were just told in general terms that they existed -- then I should extend the same courtesy to any of Mr. Element's henchmen who were only "implicitly" named rather than explicitly called by those names in dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re assuming Marvel&#039;s Elements of Doom include all elements, then here are some more DC elements.

Metal Men opponents the Gas Gang included 2 elements, Oxygen &amp; Helium. (The other 3 were compounds, Chloroform, Cabon Monoxide &amp; Carbon Dioxide.)

In his first appearance, the Flash villain, Mr. Element said that his 6 henchmen were named after the 6 inert elements, although only four were actually named in that issue, Argon, Krypton, Radon &amp; Xenon. The other two should be Helium &amp; Neon. I don&#039;t know if the henchmen ever appeared again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you're assuming Marvel's Elements of Doom include all elements, then here are some more DC elements.</p>
<p>Metal Men opponents the Gas Gang included 2 elements, Oxygen &amp; Helium. (The other 3 were compounds, Chloroform, Cabon Monoxide &amp; Carbon Dioxide.)</p>
<p>In his first appearance, the Flash villain, Mr. Element said that his 6 henchmen were named after the 6 inert elements, although only four were actually named in that issue, Argon, Krypton, Radon &amp; Xenon. The other two should be Helium &amp; Neon. I don't know if the henchmen ever appeared again.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Ziegler -- my mistake. I&#039;ve only read a couple of Static stories in my life, I&#039;m afraid. When I was clicking through one Wikipedia article after another, a couple of weeks ago, to learn the names of Milestone characters to check against lists of Marvel characters, I believe my eye fell upon this line:

&lt;B&gt;Static&#039;s civilian identity was named after the first African-American to go to law school, who was himself named after the Roman poets Virgil and Ovid.&lt;/B&gt;

Later that night, when I was typing out a &quot;Static&quot; listing, I then &quot;thought I remembered&quot; that his name was simply Virgil Ovid. If I&#039;d gone back to that Wikipedia article to double-check, I would have learned, of course, that it was actually &quot;Virgil Ovid Hawkins.&quot; As I&#039;ve said before and will say again, my memory definitely is not photographic! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Ziegler -- my mistake. I've only read a couple of Static stories in my life, I'm afraid. When I was clicking through one Wikipedia article after another, a couple of weeks ago, to learn the names of Milestone characters to check against lists of Marvel characters, I believe my eye fell upon this line:</p>
<p><b>Static's civilian identity was named after the first African-American to go to law school, who was himself named after the Roman poets Virgil and Ovid.</b></p>
<p>Later that night, when I was typing out a "Static" listing, I then "thought I remembered" that his name was simply Virgil Ovid. If I'd gone back to that Wikipedia article to double-check, I would have learned, of course, that it was actually "Virgil Ovid Hawkins." As I've said before and will say again, my memory definitely is not photographic! <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ziegler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Ziegler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an observation, but I believe Static&#039;s last name is &quot;Hawkins&quot;, not &quot;Ovid&quot;.

Although that would be a pretty cool name!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an observation, but I believe Static's last name is "Hawkins", not "Ovid".</p>
<p>Although that would be a pretty cool name!</p>
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		<title>By: winterteeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>winterteeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, my bad.  I am an ass.  I still like Alan Grant, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, my bad.  I am an ass.  I still like Alan Grant, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me -- Breyfogle, not Breyfoggle. I didn&#039;t mean to slight him by misspelling his name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me -- Breyfogle, not Breyfoggle. I didn't mean to slight him by misspelling his name.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winterteeth -- I get the feeling you skimmed over one key word in what I said about Alan Grant. I said: &quot;I was never a great admirer of the way Alan Grant wrote Batman, you see.&quot;

I think you missed the word &quot;never&quot; at first glance. 

I thought some of his stuff that I read was pretty good, but a lot of it just left me feeling dissatisfied, and I never fell in love with his work. Zsasz, for instance, just bored me, and while I thought the Ventriloquist and Scarface were amusing the first time I saw them in action, I got less and less interested each time I saw them again. I wasn&#039;t happy with Breyfoggle&#039;s way of drawing Batman either, if the truth be known (although I&#039;ve seen Breyfoggle do other work which I quite liked -- on Ultraverse&#039;s &quot;Prime,&quot; for instance). But his Batman just doesn&#039;t look right to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winterteeth -- I get the feeling you skimmed over one key word in what I said about Alan Grant. I said: "I was never a great admirer of the way Alan Grant wrote Batman, you see."</p>
<p>I think you missed the word "never" at first glance. </p>
<p>I thought some of his stuff that I read was pretty good, but a lot of it just left me feeling dissatisfied, and I never fell in love with his work. Zsasz, for instance, just bored me, and while I thought the Ventriloquist and Scarface were amusing the first time I saw them in action, I got less and less interested each time I saw them again. I wasn't happy with Breyfoggle's way of drawing Batman either, if the truth be known (although I've seen Breyfoggle do other work which I quite liked -- on Ultraverse's "Prime," for instance). But his Batman just doesn't look right to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackjak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackjak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorendiac,

Apologies for making you repeat yourself... I missed that first time around :-(</description>
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<p>Apologies for making you repeat yourself... I missed that first time around <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KRose -- I know what you mean about wondering about this sort of thing for a long time. I was in the same boat for many years. Eventually (almost two years ago) I decided to let my fellow fans do some of the research for me, in order to get things rolling. So I posted a request for help, and got things that took me completely by surprise. (For instance, one guy pointed out the &quot;Magneto&quot; who was an old one-shot &quot;Dial H for Hero&quot; identity, and that caused me to find a website which lists ALL such identities, so I could compare them to lists of names from Marvel continuity.) 

I wasn&#039;t kidding when I said, near the top of this list, that I originally estimated there wouldn&#039;t be much more than 30 duplications between the aliases of Marvel and DC characters. If I had realized the true magnitude of the phenomenon of recycling colorful names from the competition, then I might have reconsidered the whole idea . . . but I didn&#039;t. And once I had publicly committed myself to compiling such a list, I felt obligated to follow through with it and provide occasional updates to boot! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KRose -- I know what you mean about wondering about this sort of thing for a long time. I was in the same boat for many years. Eventually (almost two years ago) I decided to let my fellow fans do some of the research for me, in order to get things rolling. So I posted a request for help, and got things that took me completely by surprise. (For instance, one guy pointed out the "Magneto" who was an old one-shot "Dial H for Hero" identity, and that caused me to find a website which lists ALL such identities, so I could compare them to lists of names from Marvel continuity.) </p>
<p>I wasn't kidding when I said, near the top of this list, that I originally estimated there wouldn't be much more than 30 duplications between the aliases of Marvel and DC characters. If I had realized the true magnitude of the phenomenon of recycling colorful names from the competition, then I might have reconsidered the whole idea . . . but I didn't. And once I had publicly committed myself to compiling such a list, I felt obligated to follow through with it and provide occasional updates to boot! <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marvel has only used &quot;Menagerie&quot; for teams rather than individuals, then no, it doesn&#039;t count. I don&#039;t take team names. Otherwise, I&#039;d have (for example) an entry for &quot;Crusaders&quot; from the time in the 1970s when Marvel&#039;s Invaders and DC&#039;s Freedom Fighters had an &quot;unofficial crossover&quot; in which each team met a newly-created group called &quot;the Crusaders&quot; who were closely modelled on the members of the team at the other company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marvel has only used "Menagerie" for teams rather than individuals, then no, it doesn't count. I don't take team names. Otherwise, I'd have (for example) an entry for "Crusaders" from the time in the 1970s when Marvel's Invaders and DC's Freedom Fighters had an "unofficial crossover" in which each team met a newly-created group called "the Crusaders" who were closely modelled on the members of the team at the other company.</p>
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