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	<title>Comments on: Lorendiac’s “Character Aliases That Marvel and DC Have Both Used” (3rd Draft)</title>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Stranger
DC - Martian criminal Batman fought in Batman #78
Marvel - a big superpowerful entity, not sure of his first appearance.

The next is for groups of people

The Hidden Ones
DC - a group of genetic witches, also known as Homo magus - Justice League of America #164
Marvel - a group of Inhuman outcasts from Fantastic Four #51-54 (Volume 3)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Stranger<br />
DC &#8211; Martian criminal Batman fought in Batman #78<br />
Marvel &#8211; a big superpowerful entity, not sure of his first appearance.</p>
<p>The next is for groups of people</p>
<p>The Hidden Ones<br />
DC &#8211; a group of genetic witches, also known as Homo magus &#8211; Justice League of America #164<br />
Marvel &#8211; a group of Inhuman outcasts from Fantastic Four #51-54 (Volume 3)</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Raven
DC - Leader of a criminal gang on an unidentified parallel Earth - World&#039;s Finest Comics #136
Marvel - winged hero - Red Raven Comics #1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Raven<br />
DC &#8211; Leader of a criminal gang on an unidentified parallel Earth &#8211; World&#8217;s Finest Comics #136<br />
Marvel &#8211; winged hero &#8211; Red Raven Comics #1</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lizard
DC - evil spy who fought the Metal Men - Metal Men #26
Marvel - Dr. Curt Connors</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lizard<br />
DC &#8211; evil spy who fought the Metal Men &#8211; Metal Men #26<br />
Marvel &#8211; Dr. Curt Connors</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another DC Dragon Fly, a villainess, appeared in Batman #181.

Green Lantern #49 featured a villain named The Dazzler.
Marvel, of course, has a character named Dazzler, you might have heard about. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another DC Dragon Fly, a villainess, appeared in Batman #181.</p>
<p>Green Lantern #49 featured a villain named The Dazzler.<br />
Marvel, of course, has a character named Dazzler, you might have heard about. <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops! That &quot;Anonymous&quot; comment was from me; I&#039;m not at my usual PC and I didn&#039;t realize it wouldn&#039;t automatically populate those fields to say it was me, Lorendiac, speaking.

KAM -- as I recall, while I was working on my Third Draft I realized that I didn&#039;t know what characters, aside from those created for the Ultraverse of the mid-90s, had passed into Marvel&#039;s control when they bought Malibu. I have a few odds and ends from other Malibu titles in my collection -- at least one Ex-Mutants TPB, and maybe a couple of issues of Protectors -- but I&#039;m no expert on the subject of all that they published and who each character concept belonged to. That was another subject I filed away for a rainy day -- &quot;worry about it for the Fourth Draft!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops! That &#8220;Anonymous&#8221; comment was from me; I&#8217;m not at my usual PC and I didn&#8217;t realize it wouldn&#8217;t automatically populate those fields to say it was me, Lorendiac, speaking.</p>
<p>KAM &#8212; as I recall, while I was working on my Third Draft I realized that I didn&#8217;t know what characters, aside from those created for the Ultraverse of the mid-90s, had passed into Marvel&#8217;s control when they bought Malibu. I have a few odds and ends from other Malibu titles in my collection &#8212; at least one Ex-Mutants TPB, and maybe a couple of issues of Protectors &#8212; but I&#8217;m no expert on the subject of all that they published and who each character concept belonged to. That was another subject I filed away for a rainy day &#8212; &#8220;worry about it for the Fourth Draft!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graeme White -- thanks for those other two you mentioned. It&#039;s been so long since I read any of the &quot;Chase&quot; back issues in my collection that I just barely remembered her daddy had been a superhero once upon a time; I couldn&#039;t remember his fancy alias at all. (Heck, I&#039;d also forgotten the name &quot;Justice Experience.&quot;) 

I&#039;ve paid no attention to anything that&#039;s been done with the name &quot;Infinity Inc.&quot; in the last few years, so I didn&#039;t know anything about the latest Fury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graeme White &#8212; thanks for those other two you mentioned. It&#8217;s been so long since I read any of the &#8220;Chase&#8221; back issues in my collection that I just barely remembered her daddy had been a superhero once upon a time; I couldn&#8217;t remember his fancy alias at all. (Heck, I&#8217;d also forgotten the name &#8220;Justice Experience.&#8221;) </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve paid no attention to anything that&#8217;s been done with the name &#8220;Infinity Inc.&#8221; in the last few years, so I didn&#8217;t know anything about the latest Fury.</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The character I was thinking of was actually The Archer, not Arrow. Ah, well.

I probably should mention that the names I&#039;ve supplied of Metal Men, Flash, Metamorpho Spider-Man villains came from comics I own. The rest came from comic reference books or online references.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The character I was thinking of was actually The Archer, not Arrow. Ah, well.</p>
<p>I probably should mention that the names I&#8217;ve supplied of Metal Men, Flash, Metamorpho Spider-Man villains came from comics I own. The rest came from comic reference books or online references.</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops!  Meant to say that &quot;Gravestone was based on Centaur&#039;s Fantoman who was also known as the Fantom Of The Fair.&quot;

Kind of got lost when I rewrote that part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops!  Meant to say that &#8220;Gravestone was based on Centaur&#8217;s Fantoman who was also known as the Fantom Of The Fair.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kind of got lost when I rewrote that part.</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More info on names you have

Creeper - original Marvel Creeper was a funny animal villain in the 1940s

Falcon - also a Marvel hero in the 1940s

Nightshade was also a DC villain in a 1940s story

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More DC Elements

Metamorpho fought a team of villainous robots named Hafnium, Osmium, Selenium, Strontium, Tantalium &amp; Thallium.

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Missing shared names

El Diablo
DC - originally a villain in a 1938 story, later the names of 2 heroes
Marvel - a Sub-Mariner villain from 1955

Hercules (as far as I know these characters were not the mythical one)
DC - a superstrong hero from the 1940s in Quality comics
Marvel - a giant superstrong genius in the 1940s

Nightman/The Night Man
DC - apparently a Batman replacement from a World&#039;s Finest story
Marvel - Malibu property, purchased by Marvel

Shade
DC - Golden Age villain
Marvel - 2001 Spider-Man villain

Sin-Eater
DC - Thanagaran devil
Marvel - Insane killer

The Thunderer
DC - Metamorpho villain
Marvel - Golden Age hero who later changed name to Black Avenger

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When Marvel bought Malibu did they get the rights to the Protectors? If so then there would be 1-3 more.

Amazing Man
DC - several heroes
Malibu, revival of old Centaur Comics character

Fantom Of The Fair/Phantom Of The Fair
DC - retconned Golden Age villain from a 1980s story
Okaaaaaaaayyyyyyy... the character of Gravestone was originally known as the Fantom Of The Fair. I do not know if Malibu&#039;s version of the character was said to have used the Fantom Of The Fair name, though.

The Arrow
I think a character calling himself The Arrow might have appeared as either a villain or wannabe hero in an early Superman story, but I&#039;ll have to double-check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More info on names you have</p>
<p>Creeper &#8211; original Marvel Creeper was a funny animal villain in the 1940s</p>
<p>Falcon &#8211; also a Marvel hero in the 1940s</p>
<p>Nightshade was also a DC villain in a 1940s story</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>More DC Elements</p>
<p>Metamorpho fought a team of villainous robots named Hafnium, Osmium, Selenium, Strontium, Tantalium &amp; Thallium.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Missing shared names</p>
<p>El Diablo<br />
DC &#8211; originally a villain in a 1938 story, later the names of 2 heroes<br />
Marvel &#8211; a Sub-Mariner villain from 1955</p>
<p>Hercules (as far as I know these characters were not the mythical one)<br />
DC &#8211; a superstrong hero from the 1940s in Quality comics<br />
Marvel &#8211; a giant superstrong genius in the 1940s</p>
<p>Nightman/The Night Man<br />
DC &#8211; apparently a Batman replacement from a World&#8217;s Finest story<br />
Marvel &#8211; Malibu property, purchased by Marvel</p>
<p>Shade<br />
DC &#8211; Golden Age villain<br />
Marvel &#8211; 2001 Spider-Man villain</p>
<p>Sin-Eater<br />
DC &#8211; Thanagaran devil<br />
Marvel &#8211; Insane killer</p>
<p>The Thunderer<br />
DC &#8211; Metamorpho villain<br />
Marvel &#8211; Golden Age hero who later changed name to Black Avenger</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>When Marvel bought Malibu did they get the rights to the Protectors? If so then there would be 1-3 more.</p>
<p>Amazing Man<br />
DC &#8211; several heroes<br />
Malibu, revival of old Centaur Comics character</p>
<p>Fantom Of The Fair/Phantom Of The Fair<br />
DC &#8211; retconned Golden Age villain from a 1980s story<br />
Okaaaaaaaayyyyyyy&#8230; the character of Gravestone was originally known as the Fantom Of The Fair. I do not know if Malibu&#8217;s version of the character was said to have used the Fantom Of The Fair name, though.</p>
<p>The Arrow<br />
I think a character calling himself The Arrow might have appeared as either a villain or wannabe hero in an early Superman story, but I&#8217;ll have to double-check.</p>
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		<title>By: DT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Arak&quot; and &quot;Arion&quot; were minor characters in Marvel&#039;s &quot;Starlord&quot; before the two DC series by those names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Arak&#8221; and &#8220;Arion&#8221; were minor characters in Marvel&#8217;s &#8220;Starlord&#8221; before the two DC series by those names.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KAM -- thanks. And you&#039;re right: Logically, if I&#039;m counting Elements of Doom who were never actually named in dialogue -- we were just told in general terms that they existed -- then I should extend the same courtesy to any of Mr. Element&#039;s henchmen who were only &quot;implicitly&quot; named rather than explicitly called by those names in dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KAM &#8212; thanks. And you&#8217;re right: Logically, if I&#8217;m counting Elements of Doom who were never actually named in dialogue &#8212; we were just told in general terms that they existed &#8212; then I should extend the same courtesy to any of Mr. Element&#8217;s henchmen who were only &#8220;implicitly&#8221; named rather than explicitly called by those names in dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: KAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re assuming Marvel&#039;s Elements of Doom include all elements, then here are some more DC elements.

Metal Men opponents the Gas Gang included 2 elements, Oxygen &amp; Helium. (The other 3 were compounds, Chloroform, Cabon Monoxide &amp; Carbon Dioxide.)

In his first appearance, the Flash villain, Mr. Element said that his 6 henchmen were named after the 6 inert elements, although only four were actually named in that issue, Argon, Krypton, Radon &amp; Xenon. The other two should be Helium &amp; Neon. I don&#039;t know if the henchmen ever appeared again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re assuming Marvel&#8217;s Elements of Doom include all elements, then here are some more DC elements.</p>
<p>Metal Men opponents the Gas Gang included 2 elements, Oxygen &amp; Helium. (The other 3 were compounds, Chloroform, Cabon Monoxide &amp; Carbon Dioxide.)</p>
<p>In his first appearance, the Flash villain, Mr. Element said that his 6 henchmen were named after the 6 inert elements, although only four were actually named in that issue, Argon, Krypton, Radon &amp; Xenon. The other two should be Helium &amp; Neon. I don&#8217;t know if the henchmen ever appeared again.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Ziegler -- my mistake. I&#039;ve only read a couple of Static stories in my life, I&#039;m afraid. When I was clicking through one Wikipedia article after another, a couple of weeks ago, to learn the names of Milestone characters to check against lists of Marvel characters, I believe my eye fell upon this line:

&lt;B&gt;Static&#039;s civilian identity was named after the first African-American to go to law school, who was himself named after the Roman poets Virgil and Ovid.&lt;/B&gt;

Later that night, when I was typing out a &quot;Static&quot; listing, I then &quot;thought I remembered&quot; that his name was simply Virgil Ovid. If I&#039;d gone back to that Wikipedia article to double-check, I would have learned, of course, that it was actually &quot;Virgil Ovid Hawkins.&quot; As I&#039;ve said before and will say again, my memory definitely is not photographic! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Ziegler &#8212; my mistake. I&#8217;ve only read a couple of Static stories in my life, I&#8217;m afraid. When I was clicking through one Wikipedia article after another, a couple of weeks ago, to learn the names of Milestone characters to check against lists of Marvel characters, I believe my eye fell upon this line:</p>
<p><b>Static&#8217;s civilian identity was named after the first African-American to go to law school, who was himself named after the Roman poets Virgil and Ovid.</b></p>
<p>Later that night, when I was typing out a &#8220;Static&#8221; listing, I then &#8220;thought I remembered&#8221; that his name was simply Virgil Ovid. If I&#8217;d gone back to that Wikipedia article to double-check, I would have learned, of course, that it was actually &#8220;Virgil Ovid Hawkins.&#8221; As I&#8217;ve said before and will say again, my memory definitely is not photographic! <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ziegler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Ziegler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an observation, but I believe Static&#039;s last name is &quot;Hawkins&quot;, not &quot;Ovid&quot;.

Although that would be a pretty cool name!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an observation, but I believe Static&#8217;s last name is &#8220;Hawkins&#8221;, not &#8220;Ovid&#8221;.</p>
<p>Although that would be a pretty cool name!</p>
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		<title>By: winterteeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>winterteeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, my bad.  I am an ass.  I still like Alan Grant, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, my bad.  I am an ass.  I still like Alan Grant, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me -- Breyfogle, not Breyfoggle. I didn&#039;t mean to slight him by misspelling his name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me &#8212; Breyfogle, not Breyfoggle. I didn&#8217;t mean to slight him by misspelling his name.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/21/lorendiac%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9ccharacter-aliases-that-marvel-and-dc-have-both-used%e2%80%9d-3rd-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-688718</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winterteeth -- I get the feeling you skimmed over one key word in what I said about Alan Grant. I said: &quot;I was never a great admirer of the way Alan Grant wrote Batman, you see.&quot;

I think you missed the word &quot;never&quot; at first glance. 

I thought some of his stuff that I read was pretty good, but a lot of it just left me feeling dissatisfied, and I never fell in love with his work. Zsasz, for instance, just bored me, and while I thought the Ventriloquist and Scarface were amusing the first time I saw them in action, I got less and less interested each time I saw them again. I wasn&#039;t happy with Breyfoggle&#039;s way of drawing Batman either, if the truth be known (although I&#039;ve seen Breyfoggle do other work which I quite liked -- on Ultraverse&#039;s &quot;Prime,&quot; for instance). But his Batman just doesn&#039;t look right to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winterteeth &#8212; I get the feeling you skimmed over one key word in what I said about Alan Grant. I said: &#8220;I was never a great admirer of the way Alan Grant wrote Batman, you see.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed the word &#8220;never&#8221; at first glance. </p>
<p>I thought some of his stuff that I read was pretty good, but a lot of it just left me feeling dissatisfied, and I never fell in love with his work. Zsasz, for instance, just bored me, and while I thought the Ventriloquist and Scarface were amusing the first time I saw them in action, I got less and less interested each time I saw them again. I wasn&#8217;t happy with Breyfoggle&#8217;s way of drawing Batman either, if the truth be known (although I&#8217;ve seen Breyfoggle do other work which I quite liked &#8212; on Ultraverse&#8217;s &#8220;Prime,&#8221; for instance). But his Batman just doesn&#8217;t look right to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackjak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackjak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorendiac,

Apologies for making you repeat yourself... I missed that first time around :-(</description>
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<p>Apologies for making you repeat yourself&#8230; I missed that first time around <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KRose -- I know what you mean about wondering about this sort of thing for a long time. I was in the same boat for many years. Eventually (almost two years ago) I decided to let my fellow fans do some of the research for me, in order to get things rolling. So I posted a request for help, and got things that took me completely by surprise. (For instance, one guy pointed out the &quot;Magneto&quot; who was an old one-shot &quot;Dial H for Hero&quot; identity, and that caused me to find a website which lists ALL such identities, so I could compare them to lists of names from Marvel continuity.) 

I wasn&#039;t kidding when I said, near the top of this list, that I originally estimated there wouldn&#039;t be much more than 30 duplications between the aliases of Marvel and DC characters. If I had realized the true magnitude of the phenomenon of recycling colorful names from the competition, then I might have reconsidered the whole idea . . . but I didn&#039;t. And once I had publicly committed myself to compiling such a list, I felt obligated to follow through with it and provide occasional updates to boot! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KRose &#8212; I know what you mean about wondering about this sort of thing for a long time. I was in the same boat for many years. Eventually (almost two years ago) I decided to let my fellow fans do some of the research for me, in order to get things rolling. So I posted a request for help, and got things that took me completely by surprise. (For instance, one guy pointed out the &#8220;Magneto&#8221; who was an old one-shot &#8220;Dial H for Hero&#8221; identity, and that caused me to find a website which lists ALL such identities, so I could compare them to lists of names from Marvel continuity.) </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t kidding when I said, near the top of this list, that I originally estimated there wouldn&#8217;t be much more than 30 duplications between the aliases of Marvel and DC characters. If I had realized the true magnitude of the phenomenon of recycling colorful names from the competition, then I might have reconsidered the whole idea . . . but I didn&#8217;t. And once I had publicly committed myself to compiling such a list, I felt obligated to follow through with it and provide occasional updates to boot! <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lorendiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorendiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marvel has only used &quot;Menagerie&quot; for teams rather than individuals, then no, it doesn&#039;t count. I don&#039;t take team names. Otherwise, I&#039;d have (for example) an entry for &quot;Crusaders&quot; from the time in the 1970s when Marvel&#039;s Invaders and DC&#039;s Freedom Fighters had an &quot;unofficial crossover&quot; in which each team met a newly-created group called &quot;the Crusaders&quot; who were closely modelled on the members of the team at the other company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marvel has only used &#8220;Menagerie&#8221; for teams rather than individuals, then no, it doesn&#8217;t count. I don&#8217;t take team names. Otherwise, I&#8217;d have (for example) an entry for &#8220;Crusaders&#8221; from the time in the 1970s when Marvel&#8217;s Invaders and DC&#8217;s Freedom Fighters had an &#8220;unofficial crossover&#8221; in which each team met a newly-created group called &#8220;the Crusaders&#8221; who were closely modelled on the members of the team at the other company.</p>
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