<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Comics You Should Own - Hellstorm #12-21 and Druid #1-4</title>
	<atom:link href="http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/</link>
	<description>Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good!</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:18:39 -0800</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-743053</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-743053</guid>
		<description>Hi,
Yes I allways remember those comics, great Ellis&#039;, and Manco was the perfect horror artist, I was looking for Manco original art for years and at last I got two GREAT original splash pages from Hellstorm you can see them at: http://www.comicartfans.com/my/GalleryRoom.asp?GSub=47527, I put them for sale but I&#039;ll sell only the first one I&#039;ll receive an offer and the other will go to my private collection.
It&#039;s incredible to see the pages, there is some crazy madnees on them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Yes I allways remember those comics, great Ellis', and Manco was the perfect horror artist, I was looking for Manco original art for years and at last I got two GREAT original splash pages from Hellstorm you can see them at: <a href="http://www.comicartfans.com/my/GalleryRoom.asp?GSub=47527" rel="nofollow">http://www.comicartfans.com/my/GalleryRoom.asp?GSub=47527</a>, I put them for sale but I'll sell only the first one I'll receive an offer and the other will go to my private collection.<br />
It's incredible to see the pages, there is some crazy madnees on them...</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-742290</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-742290</guid>
		<description>Hanif: I will be updating the dead links pretty soon.  They were originally posted on another site, and their archives disappeared, so I only have the posts as Word documents.  Over the next few months I&#039;ll get them posted here, and then they&#039;ll never go away!  Bwah-ha-ha-ha!

I&#039;m certainly glad you like what I&#039;ve recommended.  It&#039;s hard to find stuff that&#039;s worth it, especially if you&#039;ve been out of comics for a while, so I&#039;m glad I can help.

Those are some good choices - the ones I&#039;ve read, of course!  It will be a while for some of them, because I do these in alphabetical order, and I&#039;m going through my back issues before starting on the ones I have exclusively in trade.  Luckily, that means I&#039;ll never run out of posts!  But those are some good choices ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hanif: I will be updating the dead links pretty soon.  They were originally posted on another site, and their archives disappeared, so I only have the posts as Word documents.  Over the next few months I'll get them posted here, and then they'll never go away!  Bwah-ha-ha-ha!</p>
<p>I'm certainly glad you like what I've recommended.  It's hard to find stuff that's worth it, especially if you've been out of comics for a while, so I'm glad I can help.</p>
<p>Those are some good choices - the ones I've read, of course!  It will be a while for some of them, because I do these in alphabetical order, and I'm going through my back issues before starting on the ones I have exclusively in trade.  Luckily, that means I'll never run out of posts!  But those are some good choices ...</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: hanif</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-742280</link>
		<dc:creator>hanif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-742280</guid>
		<description>just bought these on ebay. thanks for the heads up. the screen shots clinched it for me.

greg, thanks for all these great analyses. they&#039;re a great boon to me trying to catch up with all the comics i missed out on when i gave up on comics from the late 80s until about two years ago. my ebay addiction is very healthy thanks to your good self!

the last comics i ever bought were,i think, cerebus during mothers &amp; daughters and love and rockets at around issue 36. had to give them all up to save money for university.  i couldn&#039;t justify spending £1.75 on twenty pages of  talking heads in cerebus. - even though it was enthralling. 

[i come back and an ordinary marvel/dc comic is £3.50!]

based upon your recommendations, i now own complete runs of: the heckler, the extremist, hellstorm, atlantis chronicles, alias, dr. fate, arrowsmith, doom patrol, enigma, flex mentallo, four women, planetary, morrisson&#039;s animal man, and have started collecting the hulk visionaries tpbs.

my favourite so far would be the heckler. a really serious funny comic. and jessica jones rivals maggie as the best female character i&#039;ve read in comics.

here&#039;s some suggestions from me for series that deserve the greg burgas treatment:

moonshadow [would love to know your thoughts on this, my favourite comic series],  &#039;mazing man, journey, all of p craig russell&#039;s opera adaptations &amp; the night music series, simonson&#039;s thor,  cerebus, timespirits, stray bullets, strange embrace, madman, yotsuba!, lone wolf &amp; cub, blade of the immortal, plannettes, eden....aaarghh!! there&#039;s too much and my ceiling&#039;s going to fall in with the weight of it all!!

ps. any chance of getting some of the archive links to work again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just bought these on ebay. thanks for the heads up. the screen shots clinched it for me.</p>
<p>greg, thanks for all these great analyses. they're a great boon to me trying to catch up with all the comics i missed out on when i gave up on comics from the late 80s until about two years ago. my ebay addiction is very healthy thanks to your good self!</p>
<p>the last comics i ever bought were,i think, cerebus during mothers &amp; daughters and love and rockets at around issue 36. had to give them all up to save money for university.  i couldn't justify spending £1.75 on twenty pages of  talking heads in cerebus. - even though it was enthralling. </p>
<p>[i come back and an ordinary marvel/dc comic is £3.50!]</p>
<p>based upon your recommendations, i now own complete runs of: the heckler, the extremist, hellstorm, atlantis chronicles, alias, dr. fate, arrowsmith, doom patrol, enigma, flex mentallo, four women, planetary, morrisson's animal man, and have started collecting the hulk visionaries tpbs.</p>
<p>my favourite so far would be the heckler. a really serious funny comic. and jessica jones rivals maggie as the best female character i've read in comics.</p>
<p>here's some suggestions from me for series that deserve the greg burgas treatment:</p>
<p>moonshadow [would love to know your thoughts on this, my favourite comic series],  'mazing man, journey, all of p craig russell's opera adaptations &amp; the night music series, simonson's thor,  cerebus, timespirits, stray bullets, strange embrace, madman, yotsuba!, lone wolf &amp; cub, blade of the immortal, plannettes, eden....aaarghh!! there's too much and my ceiling's going to fall in with the weight of it all!!</p>
<p>ps. any chance of getting some of the archive links to work again?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-693912</link>
		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-693912</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I canâ€™t think of a horror story from before Hellstorm that had somebody usurp, Satan.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m pretty sure it had already happened in the DCU... can&#039;t remember where, possibly in Swamp Thing, but at the start of The Sandman, satan has been replaced and has to share the duties of running hell with two other demons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I canâ€™t think of a horror story from before Hellstorm that had somebody usurp, Satan.</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm pretty sure it had already happened in the DCU... can't remember where, possibly in Swamp Thing, but at the start of The Sandman, satan has been replaced and has to share the duties of running hell with two other demons.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-693911</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-693911</guid>
		<description>Personally I think you don&#039;t give Hellstorm enough credit.  I can&#039;t think of a horror story from before Hellstorm that had somebody usurp, Satan. Afterwards there were plenty with Ghost Rider and then Spawn. Hellstorm was the first far as I know. Plus the Armorer storyline will always stick out in my head as utterly original. Prince of Lies is definetely one of the best ongoing comics ever, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I think you don't give Hellstorm enough credit.  I can't think of a horror story from before Hellstorm that had somebody usurp, Satan. Afterwards there were plenty with Ghost Rider and then Spawn. Hellstorm was the first far as I know. Plus the Armorer storyline will always stick out in my head as utterly original. Prince of Lies is definetely one of the best ongoing comics ever, IMO.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689982</link>
		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689982</guid>
		<description>Got Ellis&#039; Aetheral Mechanics over the weekend, and it was pretty good, if a little familiar feeling.
Some recycled ideas in there, but it can be overlooked for the joy of a steampunk Sherlock Holmes.

I was also thinking about it the other day, and I&#039;m really annoyed DC scrapped the issue that led to him leaving Hellblazer - he was setting it up to be a run that rivaled Ennis&#039; on the book.
Does anyone know where the scrapped issue is available online?
I remember that it was at the time it got canceled, but I never got around to reading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got Ellis' Aetheral Mechanics over the weekend, and it was pretty good, if a little familiar feeling.<br />
Some recycled ideas in there, but it can be overlooked for the joy of a steampunk Sherlock Holmes.</p>
<p>I was also thinking about it the other day, and I'm really annoyed DC scrapped the issue that led to him leaving Hellblazer - he was setting it up to be a run that rivaled Ennis' on the book.<br />
Does anyone know where the scrapped issue is available online?<br />
I remember that it was at the time it got canceled, but I never got around to reading it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689516</link>
		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689516</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This deprived the world of Satana, a sequel of sorts to Hellstorm. I read a few sample pages Ellis had on his old website years ago. It was great, and kept the mood of Hellstorm.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, Ellis had written or plotted the first issue, I believe, and mapped out the rest, and he then took that to Avatar and turned it into Strange Kiss.
It was interesting at the time, as Marvel were going to use his plot and have, I believe, John Ostrander write the Satanna series.
However, Ellis issued a press release telling the story - so that he wasn&#039;t accused of plagiarism - and Marvel decided not to go ahead.
It&#039;s a shame, I remember Ellis saying he was actually quite interested in seeing where his ideas went compared to Ostrander&#039;s.
Would of been interesting seeing two very different, but very good writers, starting from the same point (I think the first issues were going to be very similar) and going on from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This deprived the world of Satana, a sequel of sorts to Hellstorm. I read a few sample pages Ellis had on his old website years ago. It was great, and kept the mood of Hellstorm.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, Ellis had written or plotted the first issue, I believe, and mapped out the rest, and he then took that to Avatar and turned it into Strange Kiss.<br />
It was interesting at the time, as Marvel were going to use his plot and have, I believe, John Ostrander write the Satanna series.<br />
However, Ellis issued a press release telling the story - so that he wasn't accused of plagiarism - and Marvel decided not to go ahead.<br />
It's a shame, I remember Ellis saying he was actually quite interested in seeing where his ideas went compared to Ostrander's.<br />
Would of been interesting seeing two very different, but very good writers, starting from the same point (I think the first issues were going to be very similar) and going on from there.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689512</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689512</guid>
		<description>I get that, Scavenger, but it doesn&#039;t change the fact that Ellis wrote it the way it was published.  I can&#039;t guess what he wanted to do with the character, and I think it&#039;s fascinating that the series wraps up the way it does, given that Dr. Druid was somewhat pathetic to begin with.  It&#039;s a misconception, sure, but the fact remains that the ending of Druid is a good take on the character.

Stupid Marvel and its cancellation policies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get that, Scavenger, but it doesn't change the fact that Ellis wrote it the way it was published.  I can't guess what he wanted to do with the character, and I think it's fascinating that the series wraps up the way it does, given that Dr. Druid was somewhat pathetic to begin with.  It's a misconception, sure, but the fact remains that the ending of Druid is a good take on the character.</p>
<p>Stupid Marvel and its cancellation policies!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Scavenger</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689489</link>
		<dc:creator>Scavenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689489</guid>
		<description>Should be noted...in fact underlined...that your entire review of Druid is based on a misconception on your part.

It wasn&#039;t a mini-series.

It was a regular series that was canceled before issue #1 came out, as part of the same sweep that took out Chaykin&#039;s Fury of SHIELD and, IIRC, Skrull Kill Krew.

It wasn&#039;t going to end with Hellstrom zapping Druid...that was thrown in to tidy the lose ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should be noted...in fact underlined...that your entire review of Druid is based on a misconception on your part.</p>
<p>It wasn't a mini-series.</p>
<p>It was a regular series that was canceled before issue #1 came out, as part of the same sweep that took out Chaykin's Fury of SHIELD and, IIRC, Skrull Kill Krew.</p>
<p>It wasn't going to end with Hellstrom zapping Druid...that was thrown in to tidy the lose ends.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689470</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689470</guid>
		<description>As much as I loved the Ellis work on Hellstorm, I think his predecessors - Raphael Neives and Len Kaminski - ALSO did incredible work on the title, particularly Kaminski.  I loved the whole series so much that I got it (plus Druid) hard bound into a huge hardcover omnibus.  For a book with three writers in 21 issues, the series flows pretty seamlessly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I loved the Ellis work on Hellstorm, I think his predecessors - Raphael Neives and Len Kaminski - ALSO did incredible work on the title, particularly Kaminski.  I loved the whole series so much that I got it (plus Druid) hard bound into a huge hardcover omnibus.  For a book with three writers in 21 issues, the series flows pretty seamlessly.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689456</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689456</guid>
		<description>Actually, I think it WAS his first Marvel work.  Ellis is one of the writers who kept me reading thoughout the 1990&#039;s.  His work was bold and fresh.  Here&#039;s a factoid:  Marvel was going to put out an adult line MUCH earlier, but the new owners who bought Marvel cancelled all adult lines.  This deprived the world of Satana, a sequel of sorts to Hellstorm.  I read a few sample pages Ellis had on his old website years ago.  It was great, and kept the mood of Hellstorm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think it WAS his first Marvel work.  Ellis is one of the writers who kept me reading thoughout the 1990's.  His work was bold and fresh.  Here's a factoid:  Marvel was going to put out an adult line MUCH earlier, but the new owners who bought Marvel cancelled all adult lines.  This deprived the world of Satana, a sequel of sorts to Hellstorm.  I read a few sample pages Ellis had on his old website years ago.  It was great, and kept the mood of Hellstorm.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689418</link>
		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689418</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™m not saying he doesnâ€™t enjoy writing Astonishing X-Men or anything else he churns out for Marvel, but in the past few years, it seems like heâ€™s become â€œWarren Ellis,â€ and everyone knows what theyâ€™re going to get from â€œWarren Ellis,â€ and he doesnâ€™t disappoint. Even though I read this with the full knowledge of what he would write in the next decade, this feels fresher, as if Ellis just couldnâ€™t wait to write the next sentence of his twisted epic.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yup, it sure was good when he wrote that way.
He seemed to lose it for me right around the moment the ink dried on the DC exclusive contract - not because he &#039;sold out&#039; or any such thing, it&#039;s just that around then his work lost something.
Apparat and Fell are the only recent works that have felt as exciting for me (possibly because in both times he was trying something new), and perhaps Desolation Jones (although ironically I like that so much because of how polished and in control of the medium he was with that one).
I have a similar thing with Neil Gaiman - I really like his work, but I don&#039;t enjoy it as much as I did before he was NEIL GAIMAN.
Although he has a much stronger voice, and his stories are probably better crafted now, his first short story collection &#039;Smoke And Mirrors&#039; is much better, in my opinion, than his most recent one, &#039;Fragile Things&#039;.
Smoke And Mirrors was Gaiman trying different genres, taking more risks etc.
The stories were more raw, and were better for it.

Perhaps it&#039;s like rock stars where the latter albums may be technically better, but you struggle to compete with the rawness and energy of their early music.

Either way, Ellis has slipped from a must buy whatever the cost writer, to one whose projects I&#039;ll get if the concept interests me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Iâ€™m not saying he doesnâ€™t enjoy writing Astonishing X-Men or anything else he churns out for Marvel, but in the past few years, it seems like heâ€™s become â€œWarren Ellis,â€ and everyone knows what theyâ€™re going to get from â€œWarren Ellis,â€ and he doesnâ€™t disappoint. Even though I read this with the full knowledge of what he would write in the next decade, this feels fresher, as if Ellis just couldnâ€™t wait to write the next sentence of his twisted epic.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yup, it sure was good when he wrote that way.<br />
He seemed to lose it for me right around the moment the ink dried on the DC exclusive contract - not because he 'sold out' or any such thing, it's just that around then his work lost something.<br />
Apparat and Fell are the only recent works that have felt as exciting for me (possibly because in both times he was trying something new), and perhaps Desolation Jones (although ironically I like that so much because of how polished and in control of the medium he was with that one).<br />
I have a similar thing with Neil Gaiman - I really like his work, but I don't enjoy it as much as I did before he was NEIL GAIMAN.<br />
Although he has a much stronger voice, and his stories are probably better crafted now, his first short story collection 'Smoke And Mirrors' is much better, in my opinion, than his most recent one, 'Fragile Things'.<br />
Smoke And Mirrors was Gaiman trying different genres, taking more risks etc.<br />
The stories were more raw, and were better for it.</p>
<p>Perhaps it's like rock stars where the latter albums may be technically better, but you struggle to compete with the rawness and energy of their early music.</p>
<p>Either way, Ellis has slipped from a must buy whatever the cost writer, to one whose projects I'll get if the concept interests me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike Loughlin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689399</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689399</guid>
		<description>These were among my first non-super-hero comics, and they blew me away. I had never read anything as raw, edgy, and disturbing as Ellis&#039; early work, and Manco was the perfect horror artist. I bought every comic either of them contributed to for several years. Flaws and all, these comics remain favorites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These were among my first non-super-hero comics, and they blew me away. I had never read anything as raw, edgy, and disturbing as Ellis' early work, and Manco was the perfect horror artist. I bought every comic either of them contributed to for several years. Flaws and all, these comics remain favorites.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Johnny Bacardi</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689380</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Bacardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689380</guid>
		<description>Because I&#039;ve always had a soft spot for the Son of Satan character, stretching back to his 1973 debut, I of course bought the new Hellstorm: Prince of Lies series when it premiered. At first, Len Kaminski seemed to be setting up Daimon to be a John Constantine type, ponytail, trenchcoat and all- but really didn&#039;t take it anywhere- I was about to drop the book, but when Ellis came along his stuff was a lot more to my liking, like the work that Moore and Gaiman were doing at DC, and I liked it enough to keep buying, and I&#039;m glad I did. I consider Ellis&#039; Hellstorm and Druid two of the few worthwhile titles that Marvel published in the 1990&#039;s.

Daimon may not have been especially sympathetic (perhaps Jagger could have worked some up, I don&#039;t know), but he was charismatic, and that went a long way with me. Ellis&#039; ideas were so fresh, especially considering the rest of Marvel&#039;s output back then, that it was amazing- and remember, we look at it now with a decade plus of hindsight. As I understand it, Ellis was just preparing a long, multi-part epic when news of the book&#039;s cancellation reached him, so he just tied it all up in one issue, bang-bang-bang, and pulled it off surprisingly well, I thought!

Druid, too, was intended to be an ongoing but was soon truncated into a 4-issue mini, and it shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because I've always had a soft spot for the Son of Satan character, stretching back to his 1973 debut, I of course bought the new Hellstorm: Prince of Lies series when it premiered. At first, Len Kaminski seemed to be setting up Daimon to be a John Constantine type, ponytail, trenchcoat and all- but really didn't take it anywhere- I was about to drop the book, but when Ellis came along his stuff was a lot more to my liking, like the work that Moore and Gaiman were doing at DC, and I liked it enough to keep buying, and I'm glad I did. I consider Ellis' Hellstorm and Druid two of the few worthwhile titles that Marvel published in the 1990's.</p>
<p>Daimon may not have been especially sympathetic (perhaps Jagger could have worked some up, I don't know), but he was charismatic, and that went a long way with me. Ellis' ideas were so fresh, especially considering the rest of Marvel's output back then, that it was amazing- and remember, we look at it now with a decade plus of hindsight. As I understand it, Ellis was just preparing a long, multi-part epic when news of the book's cancellation reached him, so he just tied it all up in one issue, bang-bang-bang, and pulled it off surprisingly well, I thought!</p>
<p>Druid, too, was intended to be an ongoing but was soon truncated into a 4-issue mini, and it shows.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Roquefort Raider</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689375</link>
		<dc:creator>Roquefort Raider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689375</guid>
		<description>I read a few Hellstorm issues and I guess Ellis fans would indeed find something to like in them. IMHO, they suffer from the flaws I often see in the writer&#039;s approach when he uses creations that aren&#039;t his own : no interest in  established characterization, lots of gratuitous violence and death, and a tendency to turn everyone into a cynical bastard (with a trenchcoat if at all possible). Gimme the cheesy and colorful Steve Gerber Son of Satan any day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a few Hellstorm issues and I guess Ellis fans would indeed find something to like in them. IMHO, they suffer from the flaws I often see in the writer's approach when he uses creations that aren't his own : no interest in  established characterization, lots of gratuitous violence and death, and a tendency to turn everyone into a cynical bastard (with a trenchcoat if at all possible). Gimme the cheesy and colorful Steve Gerber Son of Satan any day!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: layne</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689367</link>
		<dc:creator>layne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689367</guid>
		<description>For more proto-Ellisness, you should check out his run on Doom 2099. There&#039;s not much else about it to recommend, IIRC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For more proto-Ellisness, you should check out his run on Doom 2099. There's not much else about it to recommend, IIRC.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689365</link>
		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689365</guid>
		<description>This seems more like &quot;Comics You Should Check Out, If It&#039;s Convenient&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems more like "Comics You Should Check Out, If It's Convenient".</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/28/comics-you-should-own-hellstorm-12-21-and-druid-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-689364</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/?p=19733#comment-689364</guid>
		<description>I read these when they were coming out, and at the time, they seemed great ,but ignored. I&#039;ll grant that they&#039;re not as good as much of his later stuff, but really some of the most effective horror comics of the era.  I liked Hellstorm BECAUSE it was a largely unapologetic look at a bastard.  The sympathetic protagonist is overrated.  Just make him an interesting bastard, and you&#039;ve done your job, and the ending of Druid is probably unlike anything in a comic until that time and still, sadly, sort of the definitive take on the character for me.  I&#039;ll agree that these runs are not as good as Planetary or Transmet or the true Ellis greatness, but they&#039;re still far more moody and atmospheric, putting them, in my heart, above most of his mainstream superhero work, for all their faults (with the possible exception of Nextwave, but apples to oranges and all that).     

And yes, for the next ten years I had sort of a Didn&#039;t-I-read-that-in? moment during many future plots.  But hey, that&#039;s the advantage of having unbelievably low sales on your early stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read these when they were coming out, and at the time, they seemed great ,but ignored. I'll grant that they're not as good as much of his later stuff, but really some of the most effective horror comics of the era.  I liked Hellstorm BECAUSE it was a largely unapologetic look at a bastard.  The sympathetic protagonist is overrated.  Just make him an interesting bastard, and you've done your job, and the ending of Druid is probably unlike anything in a comic until that time and still, sadly, sort of the definitive take on the character for me.  I'll agree that these runs are not as good as Planetary or Transmet or the true Ellis greatness, but they're still far more moody and atmospheric, putting them, in my heart, above most of his mainstream superhero work, for all their faults (with the possible exception of Nextwave, but apples to oranges and all that).     </p>
<p>And yes, for the next ten years I had sort of a Didn't-I-read-that-in? moment during many future plots.  But hey, that's the advantage of having unbelievably low sales on your early stuff!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
