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		<title>By: zodberg neroman</title>
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		<dc:creator>zodberg neroman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this will sure make the event, Final Night, they&#039;ve been building up to for 5+ years, kinda WACKY.</description>
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		<title>By: Future Predictions: DC Comics Is Going to Cancel Detective Comics and Batman at AudioShocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Future Predictions: DC Comics Is Going to Cancel Detective Comics and Batman at AudioShocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been trying to tell everyone about this for a few weeks. Now I&#8217;ve decided to go on record with this futuristic Batman vision in light [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading for a number of years now and I think one of the greatest problems that is faced by DC&#039;s current thinking is the obsession with the SIlver age and the continuity of that era. 
While there have been some sucesses  (eg the return of Hal Jordan), the wholesale drag back has given the line as a whole a sense of confusion.
The original Crisis didn&#039;t get everything right, but it did get most of the books back to the basics. In recent years we have seen so much of that thrown back into the mix and now they just don&#039;t seem to know what they want the DC Universe to be.

And as someone said, the constant events can really screw a book up. Why care about the new status quo which has been set up by a protracted, year-long event when it will be changed and kicked on a different path a few months down the track?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been reading for a number of years now and I think one of the greatest problems that is faced by DC's current thinking is the obsession with the SIlver age and the continuity of that era.<br />
While there have been some sucesses  (eg the return of Hal Jordan), the wholesale drag back has given the line as a whole a sense of confusion.<br />
The original Crisis didn't get everything right, but it did get most of the books back to the basics. In recent years we have seen so much of that thrown back into the mix and now they just don't seem to know what they want the DC Universe to be.</p>
<p>And as someone said, the constant events can really screw a book up. Why care about the new status quo which has been set up by a protracted, year-long event when it will be changed and kicked on a different path a few months down the track?</p>
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		<title>By: sgt rawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgt rawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many reboots has DC done since The First Crisis? (ie - The Crisis On Earth Two, which was, what, the 1960&#039;s?) DC lives and dies by the reboot. They will not reboot their entire universe. Or they will. It won&#039;t matter. If the reboot doesn&#039;t work, they&#039;ll just reboot it again. DC is all about the reboot. 

The only DC book I buy is Jonah Hex. And if they throw him into some post-apocalyptic future, I&#039;ll stop buying it. Just like I did the first time they tried that. 

Marvel&#039;s no better, only they call it &quot;re-interpretation&quot; rather than reboot. Luke Cage - supercool Superfly or O.G. bad muthaf*cka? One and the same, baby. Sweet Christmas! Danny Rand - Kung-Fu&#039;sploitation-wearing-little-yellow-booties or Full-On-Awesome martial arts comic? Both. 

If you think Steve Rogers is dead, I have some real estate you may be interested in. The GIANT-SIZED MAN-THING lives there but I wouldn&#039;t worry about it too much. You&#039;re not afraid, are you? Because that would be a bad thing ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many reboots has DC done since The First Crisis? (ie - The Crisis On Earth Two, which was, what, the 1960's?) DC lives and dies by the reboot. They will not reboot their entire universe. Or they will. It won't matter. If the reboot doesn't work, they'll just reboot it again. DC is all about the reboot. </p>
<p>The only DC book I buy is Jonah Hex. And if they throw him into some post-apocalyptic future, I'll stop buying it. Just like I did the first time they tried that. </p>
<p>Marvel's no better, only they call it "re-interpretation" rather than reboot. Luke Cage - supercool Superfly or O.G. bad muthaf*cka? One and the same, baby. Sweet Christmas! Danny Rand - Kung-Fu'sploitation-wearing-little-yellow-booties or Full-On-Awesome martial arts comic? Both. </p>
<p>If you think Steve Rogers is dead, I have some real estate you may be interested in. The GIANT-SIZED MAN-THING lives there but I wouldn't worry about it too much. You're not afraid, are you? Because that would be a bad thing ...</p>
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		<title>By: Zee</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/30/whats-next-for-dc/comment-page-2/#comment-689907</link>
		<dc:creator>Zee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;...address what itâ€™s like to live in the DCU as a villain...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
Going for real deep, relevant stuff.  Really, speaking to the common human experience.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;...give the lay of the land of the DCU and the various titles, and allow for the books to all have great jumping on points...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
They couldn&#039;t pull their s*** together for One Year Later, but they&#039;ll get it right this time! Promise!

I think marketing for these guys is making promises they don&#039;t even intend to fulfill.  They acknowledge what they think the audience wants and &lt;i&gt;say&lt;/i&gt; they&#039;ll deliver instead of just putting it in the damn comics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>"...address what itâ€™s like to live in the DCU as a villain..."</i><br />
Going for real deep, relevant stuff.  Really, speaking to the common human experience.</p>
<p><i>"...give the lay of the land of the DCU and the various titles, and allow for the books to all have great jumping on points..."</i><br />
They couldn't pull their s*** together for One Year Later, but they'll get it right this time! Promise!</p>
<p>I think marketing for these guys is making promises they don't even intend to fulfill.  They acknowledge what they think the audience wants and <i>say</i> they'll deliver instead of just putting it in the damn comics.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan DiDio has all ready stated in an interview what has post-crisis plans are.

&quot;Hereâ€™s the way it works right now, and the reason why things will pick up from Final Crisis in March: where we stand right now in January, weâ€™re addressing a common tonality in the DCU. Thatâ€™s one of the reasons we created â€œFaces of Evil,â€ because we wanted to give a sense that the universe was coming back together again at the start of the New Year. Those stories are all stand alone, but tonally, address what itâ€™s like to live in the DCU as a villain in regards to whatâ€™s happening in those issues. 

In February, again, weâ€™re bringing the line back closer together and working to bring the continuity back in synch. In that month, weâ€™ll have a series of books â€“ I think weâ€™re up to about 19 in all now â€“ that will have six page stories as backups, and each book will be branded â€œOrigins and Omens.â€ What youâ€™re going to see in those stories is a little of the origin of each character, whatâ€™s essential to know about each character to date, and more importantly, a little foreshadowing of whatâ€™s to come with the character. Each one of the â€œOrigins and Omensâ€ installments will have a common narrator, and that narrator has direct ties to Blackest Night later in the year. 

So thatâ€™s why I said that the DCU will reflect ,b&gt;Final Crisis starting in March â€“ not only because we wanted to reach a point where we could give the lay of the land of the DCU and the various titles, and allow for the books to all have great jumping on points. Readers can get caught up with the six page stories, and then follow through in March and the rest of the year.&quot;

Case closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan DiDio has all ready stated in an interview what has post-crisis plans are.</p>
<p>"Hereâ€™s the way it works right now, and the reason why things will pick up from Final Crisis in March: where we stand right now in January, weâ€™re addressing a common tonality in the DCU. Thatâ€™s one of the reasons we created â€œFaces of Evil,â€ because we wanted to give a sense that the universe was coming back together again at the start of the New Year. Those stories are all stand alone, but tonally, address what itâ€™s like to live in the DCU as a villain in regards to whatâ€™s happening in those issues. </p>
<p>In February, again, weâ€™re bringing the line back closer together and working to bring the continuity back in synch. In that month, weâ€™ll have a series of books â€“ I think weâ€™re up to about 19 in all now â€“ that will have six page stories as backups, and each book will be branded â€œOrigins and Omens.â€ What youâ€™re going to see in those stories is a little of the origin of each character, whatâ€™s essential to know about each character to date, and more importantly, a little foreshadowing of whatâ€™s to come with the character. Each one of the â€œOrigins and Omensâ€ installments will have a common narrator, and that narrator has direct ties to Blackest Night later in the year. </p>
<p>So thatâ€™s why I said that the DCU will reflect ,b&gt;Final Crisis starting in March â€“ not only because we wanted to reach a point where we could give the lay of the land of the DCU and the various titles, and allow for the books to all have great jumping on points. Readers can get caught up with the six page stories, and then follow through in March and the rest of the year."</p>
<p>Case closed.</p>
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		<title>By: John Trumbull</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Trumbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark me down as a big NO on a DCU reboot.  I want to see DC telling new stories, not constantly retelling old ones.  It was fun in 1986.  In 2008 it&#039;s just old news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark me down as a big NO on a DCU reboot.  I want to see DC telling new stories, not constantly retelling old ones.  It was fun in 1986.  In 2008 it's just old news.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Whatâ€™s next?

More sales drops, more apathy, more lateness, more botched events, more online outrage over tacky cannon fodder, gore and sex.

Business as usual under Didio.&quot;

&quot;DC has already found a quick and easy way to alienate readers. Itâ€™s called Dan Didio.&quot;
I&#039;d like to hear the reasoning behind these 2 quotes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Whatâ€™s next?</p>
<p>More sales drops, more apathy, more lateness, more botched events, more online outrage over tacky cannon fodder, gore and sex.</p>
<p>Business as usual under Didio."</p>
<p>"DC has already found a quick and easy way to alienate readers. Itâ€™s called Dan Didio."<br />
I'd like to hear the reasoning behind these 2 quotes.</p>
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		<title>By: Spike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on.  Morrisons stories are anything but &quot;phoned in&quot;.   His stories are vast and so interconnected that they lose the random reader.   They work so much better when the whole picture is finally revealed.   Its fantastic, but doesn&#039;t work all the time for comics that are monthly.   His vision can be so large that we don&#039;t want to wait to see it.   And DC and Marvel both have problems with getting books out on time.  Look at Astonishing X-men.  A story that could be told in half the books that took twice as long to come out.
  The problem with BOTH companies are they put to much in the &quot;golden boys&quot; of the time.  They let Morrisson, Johns, Bendis and Millar write so many titles or company direction stories that they forget all the old and new writers that have stories to tell.   Johns and Bendis are much worse than Morrison in this.   There is no reason for them to write more than 2 or three books at the most.    The problem with DC is they had such earth moving events that seem to cry for follow up in other comics..but are never mentioned.  Amazon Attacks.. it was bad.. but it should have been more shaking in other  comics.   The Kryptonians from the Phantom Zone..  they could have destroyed the world.. but never mentioned in other books.. even now the 100,00 Kryptons.. wil that be mentioned anywhere.    Marvel kinda has the right idea.   There big events are affecting the other books.,..and in a much more interesting way.  Marvels main event lead comics are usually the problem.  Millar ( Cival War) and Bendis ( Secret Invasion) are boring in the main stories.. its the other writers in their own books that pick up the ball and bring an inteesting view to the events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on.  Morrisons stories are anything but "phoned in".   His stories are vast and so interconnected that they lose the random reader.   They work so much better when the whole picture is finally revealed.   Its fantastic, but doesn't work all the time for comics that are monthly.   His vision can be so large that we don't want to wait to see it.   And DC and Marvel both have problems with getting books out on time.  Look at Astonishing X-men.  A story that could be told in half the books that took twice as long to come out.<br />
  The problem with BOTH companies are they put to much in the "golden boys" of the time.  They let Morrisson, Johns, Bendis and Millar write so many titles or company direction stories that they forget all the old and new writers that have stories to tell.   Johns and Bendis are much worse than Morrison in this.   There is no reason for them to write more than 2 or three books at the most.    The problem with DC is they had such earth moving events that seem to cry for follow up in other comics..but are never mentioned.  Amazon Attacks.. it was bad.. but it should have been more shaking in other  comics.   The Kryptonians from the Phantom Zone..  they could have destroyed the world.. but never mentioned in other books.. even now the 100,00 Kryptons.. wil that be mentioned anywhere.    Marvel kinda has the right idea.   There big events are affecting the other books.,..and in a much more interesting way.  Marvels main event lead comics are usually the problem.  Millar ( Cival War) and Bendis ( Secret Invasion) are boring in the main stories.. its the other writers in their own books that pick up the ball and bring an inteesting view to the events.</p>
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		<title>By: David VanDyke</title>
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		<dc:creator>David VanDyke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely disagree with starting from #1 on all the issues.  Its confusing and pointless.  In the early 90&#039;s the thing was to crank out a bunch fo #1&#039;s and most of those books don&#039;t exist now.  The problem with DC is this.  First off, there seems to be no one in charge anymore.  If the landmark summer event book is late, there&#039;s a major problem.  Someone should be fired for that in and of itself.  Secondly, they&#039;ve pumped up Morrison so much that he&#039;s phoning in the stories on Batman and Final Crisis.  Both of which are complete crap.  There&#039;s a problem when Nightwing and Robin have the best stories of the landmark R.I.P series.  DC needs someone to step in and take control of the situation.  If you can&#039;t get your books out on time then they should find someone who can.  Hell, Marvel isn&#039;t behind on Secret Invasion because they understand that you can&#039;t get behind on what&#039;s supposed to be the top selling event of the year.  Content wise, they need to find some new names in the writing pool.  Hold a nationwide search or something because Morrison has lost it and doesn&#039;t deserve to have the top two arcs under his control.  DC also needs to open up a creative summit that ends with a who new Rogues Gallery for many of the major characters.  Batman is the only one in the DC universe who has a great Rogues Gallery.  Superman has a few but everything they add a good one to his books, a few years later they go back and make them weak write off their initial defeating of Superman as a fluke.  DC needs new writers and a new Rogues Gallery and then, maybe they can contend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely disagree with starting from #1 on all the issues.  Its confusing and pointless.  In the early 90's the thing was to crank out a bunch fo #1's and most of those books don't exist now.  The problem with DC is this.  First off, there seems to be no one in charge anymore.  If the landmark summer event book is late, there's a major problem.  Someone should be fired for that in and of itself.  Secondly, they've pumped up Morrison so much that he's phoning in the stories on Batman and Final Crisis.  Both of which are complete crap.  There's a problem when Nightwing and Robin have the best stories of the landmark R.I.P series.  DC needs someone to step in and take control of the situation.  If you can't get your books out on time then they should find someone who can.  Hell, Marvel isn't behind on Secret Invasion because they understand that you can't get behind on what's supposed to be the top selling event of the year.  Content wise, they need to find some new names in the writing pool.  Hold a nationwide search or something because Morrison has lost it and doesn't deserve to have the top two arcs under his control.  DC also needs to open up a creative summit that ends with a who new Rogues Gallery for many of the major characters.  Batman is the only one in the DC universe who has a great Rogues Gallery.  Superman has a few but everything they add a good one to his books, a few years later they go back and make them weak write off their initial defeating of Superman as a fluke.  DC needs new writers and a new Rogues Gallery and then, maybe they can contend.</p>
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		<title>By: AERose</title>
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		<dc:creator>AERose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;â€œThe Didioâ€™s and Quesadaâ€™s of the world will play in their editorially mandated sand boxes, unnoticed by the sane world and underwritten by vast licensing empires perpetuated by the iconic strengths of their characters along with TV and movie adaptations.â€

Sadly, mainstream press does pick up on what they are doingâ€¦&quot;

I believe you mean, &quot;unsurprisingly the mainstream press doesn&#039;t care about a small niche that at this point is only relevant to the mainstream as a Hollywood IP farm.&quot;

The superhero comic book industry has to give the rest of the world a reason to care. It&#039;s not everybody elses&#039; responsibility to give a shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"â€œThe Didioâ€™s and Quesadaâ€™s of the world will play in their editorially mandated sand boxes, unnoticed by the sane world and underwritten by vast licensing empires perpetuated by the iconic strengths of their characters along with TV and movie adaptations.â€</p>
<p>Sadly, mainstream press does pick up on what they are doingâ€¦"</p>
<p>I believe you mean, "unsurprisingly the mainstream press doesn't care about a small niche that at this point is only relevant to the mainstream as a Hollywood IP farm."</p>
<p>The superhero comic book industry has to give the rest of the world a reason to care. It's not everybody elses' responsibility to give a shit.</p>
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		<title>By: stealthwise</title>
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		<dc:creator>stealthwise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that the biggest problems with DC (and Marvel) nowadays is that everything must be SERIOUS and UNIFORM.  It all has to fit into one box, and nothing that strays will survive or last very long, and if it does, you can be sure neither company will have much interest in or luck with promoting it to the outside world.

Superhero comics are very insular now, to the point where they&#039;ve developed an &quot;us or them&quot; mantra, and the majority of people who have various entertainment options would rather turn to those than spend $3 (or now 4?) a pop for something that&#039;s completely marginalized and self-reflexive more than anything else.   Look at the current product: you&#039;ve got Final Crisis/Secret Invasion tie-ins, Ultimate universes that are basically just rehashes of the originals, Batman RIP, a weekly Trinity that you need to get in on the ground floor with to understand, a nearly-weekly Spider-Man that&#039;s just a rehash of the 70s stories, Captain whatshisnuts part 3 of 5 (which is part of a much larger arc), and when it all comes down to it, the most important point to grok, in my mind, is that QUALITY DOESN&#039;T MATTER.

It doesn&#039;t matter how good your comic is if it&#039;s lumped in with a maelstrom of self-indulgent, nerd-servicing crap that&#039;s created merely to hit all the sweet spots, fulfill the requirements of the &quot;summer crossover&quot; or the &quot;intelligent reader&#039;s superhero book&quot; or &quot;the cape and tights satire,&quot; etc, that exist merely to provide the current readership with a reason to get off of their asses and buy comic books.  Because that&#039;s what the majority of the direct market audience appears to be: people who like buying comic books, and just need a reason to put their money down on the counter and leave the shop with a stack of books, no matter how many of them Jeph Loeb writes.

It doesn&#039;t matter how</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the biggest problems with DC (and Marvel) nowadays is that everything must be SERIOUS and UNIFORM.  It all has to fit into one box, and nothing that strays will survive or last very long, and if it does, you can be sure neither company will have much interest in or luck with promoting it to the outside world.</p>
<p>Superhero comics are very insular now, to the point where they've developed an "us or them" mantra, and the majority of people who have various entertainment options would rather turn to those than spend $3 (or now 4?) a pop for something that's completely marginalized and self-reflexive more than anything else.   Look at the current product: you've got Final Crisis/Secret Invasion tie-ins, Ultimate universes that are basically just rehashes of the originals, Batman RIP, a weekly Trinity that you need to get in on the ground floor with to understand, a nearly-weekly Spider-Man that's just a rehash of the 70s stories, Captain whatshisnuts part 3 of 5 (which is part of a much larger arc), and when it all comes down to it, the most important point to grok, in my mind, is that QUALITY DOESN'T MATTER.</p>
<p>It doesn't matter how good your comic is if it's lumped in with a maelstrom of self-indulgent, nerd-servicing crap that's created merely to hit all the sweet spots, fulfill the requirements of the "summer crossover" or the "intelligent reader's superhero book" or "the cape and tights satire," etc, that exist merely to provide the current readership with a reason to get off of their asses and buy comic books.  Because that's what the majority of the direct market audience appears to be: people who like buying comic books, and just need a reason to put their money down on the counter and leave the shop with a stack of books, no matter how many of them Jeph Loeb writes.</p>
<p>It doesn't matter how</p>
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		<title>By: KMFPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>KMFPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the post-Crisis DC Universe is the problem you have now. 

DC is built on legacy superheroes, so how do you reboot, for example, Nightwing? Or any of the Teen Titans?  Do you reboot Hal Jordan, but ignore Guy, Kyle, and John?  Who is the Flash?

DC&#039;s solution post-Crisis was selective reboots: Superman and Wonder Woman started from scratch, Batman got darker (in part through John Byrne re-vamping his relationship with Superman).  The Titans just kept rolling along.  And the LSH and JSA were messes that never got better.

So you got yer choice (A) start the Universe from scratch, without any legacy heroes.  You got yer choice (B) try to ignore what doesn&#039;t fit and just tell good stories, or you got yer choice (C) partial reboot, with an explanation of why everything&#039;s better now.

I&#039;m betting on (C).  I&#039;d like to see what they&#039;d do with (A), but it&#039;s a bad business move.  I like (B) best, but it&#039;s not a very good ending for FC, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the post-Crisis DC Universe is the problem you have now. </p>
<p>DC is built on legacy superheroes, so how do you reboot, for example, Nightwing? Or any of the Teen Titans?  Do you reboot Hal Jordan, but ignore Guy, Kyle, and John?  Who is the Flash?</p>
<p>DC's solution post-Crisis was selective reboots: Superman and Wonder Woman started from scratch, Batman got darker (in part through John Byrne re-vamping his relationship with Superman).  The Titans just kept rolling along.  And the LSH and JSA were messes that never got better.</p>
<p>So you got yer choice (A) start the Universe from scratch, without any legacy heroes.  You got yer choice (B) try to ignore what doesn't fit and just tell good stories, or you got yer choice (C) partial reboot, with an explanation of why everything's better now.</p>
<p>I'm betting on (C).  I'd like to see what they'd do with (A), but it's a bad business move.  I like (B) best, but it's not a very good ending for FC, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Walid</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/30/whats-next-for-dc/comment-page-2/#comment-689844</link>
		<dc:creator>Walid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Didioâ€™s and Quesadaâ€™s of the world will play in their editorially mandated sand boxes, unnoticed by the sane world and underwritten by vast licensing empires perpetuated by the iconic strengths of their characters along with TV and movie adaptations.&quot;

Sadly, mainstream press does pick up on what they are doing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The Didioâ€™s and Quesadaâ€™s of the world will play in their editorially mandated sand boxes, unnoticed by the sane world and underwritten by vast licensing empires perpetuated by the iconic strengths of their characters along with TV and movie adaptations."</p>
<p>Sadly, mainstream press does pick up on what they are doing...</p>
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		<title>By: AERose</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/30/whats-next-for-dc/comment-page-2/#comment-689831</link>
		<dc:creator>AERose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a fanbase that is at least partly dedicated to (right or wrong) hating the everliving fuck out of Dan Didio, it seems odd (not really) a large portion of the commenters seem to use the exact same thought process as Didio with regards to how to run a superhero comic book concern.

To wit, the only viable solutions for improving the quality/profitability of a line of comic books involve one word adjectives.

&quot;Darker.&quot; (A favorite among the current editorial heads of state.) &quot;Lighter.&quot; &quot;Tighter.&quot; (with regards to continuity.) &quot;Looser.&quot; &quot;Newer.&quot; (What Burgas advocates.) &quot;Older.&quot; etc.

If the audience for mainstream super hero comics is truly shrinking (and despite what Greg Hatcher says, there&#039;s no direct public gauge on the number of superhero comics readers; unless you&#039;re a market analyst you&#039;re only getting parts of the picture), then it&#039;s ludicrous to suggest that applying a general fix to a one of a dozen specific problems is going to have any appreciable effect in the short run, much less the long run.

Suppose you make everything newer. New number 1 issues, new origins, new... whatever. Even if the project can turn a profit, despite the fact that most of the material will simply be rehashes of material that&#039;s already been rehashed more times than necessary, you still have to A.) keep the continuity straight enough that the project&#039;s original goals aren&#039;t completely in vain, B.) keep the project&#039;s quality high enough above the previous status quo to justify the reboot, and C.) find creators that are willing and able to bring relevance to characters that haven&#039;t had any cross-medium relevance in a decade and a half.

It&#039;s idiotic to expect that you can reboot Nightwing and it&#039;ll become a quality comic book; no matter what issue number you put on it Peter Tomasi&#039;s still a mediocre writer. And though he may be able to accomplish A; B and C are going to be ignored because Peter Tomasi just isn&#039;t that good. You can&#039;t improve your creative assets through editorial mandate, and if you think you can you might as well just cross your fingers or knock on wood for all the good it&#039;ll do.

Of course, that&#039;s just the creative problems. Nevermind that both of the major universes are still hamstrung by their distribution arrangements and facing hard competition from every other entertainment medium, we&#039;re going to fix everything through the power of #1 issues!

The reason why Dan Didio has largely failed as an Editor in Chief is that his changes have been simplistic and poorly thought out. True to form, the internet (which, much like the real world, is mostly populated by idiots) has agitated almost every step of the way for &lt;i&gt;different&lt;/i&gt; simplistic and poorly thought out changes. Simply put, Dan Didio is a fanboy who made it big, who is now hounded by fanboys who have not. Mind you, there&#039;s no value judgment there, except that both Didio and his critics are by and large neanderthals.

As Grant Morrison would say, the comic book industry doesn&#039;t need to be saved. The Didio&#039;s and Quesada&#039;s of the world will play in their editorially mandated sand boxes, unnoticed by the sane world and underwritten by vast licensing empires perpetuated by the iconic strengths of their characters along with TV and movie adaptations. Meanwhile the worthwhile from both companies will rise above and find acceptance through other distribution mediums; Marvel will put out highly lucrative Marvel Adventures titles for the little ones, DC will squeeze out the occasional bit of literary superheroics (ex: All Star Superman) for the bookshelves, and the Rob Kirkman types will get indy street cred by raging against the mainstream superhero shared universe machine.

All will continue to be right and as it should be in this best of all possible worlds, except for the fact that people will still accept mediocrity as worthwhile reading material, but ain&#039;t that just the way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a fanbase that is at least partly dedicated to (right or wrong) hating the everliving fuck out of Dan Didio, it seems odd (not really) a large portion of the commenters seem to use the exact same thought process as Didio with regards to how to run a superhero comic book concern.</p>
<p>To wit, the only viable solutions for improving the quality/profitability of a line of comic books involve one word adjectives.</p>
<p>"Darker." (A favorite among the current editorial heads of state.) "Lighter." "Tighter." (with regards to continuity.) "Looser." "Newer." (What Burgas advocates.) "Older." etc.</p>
<p>If the audience for mainstream super hero comics is truly shrinking (and despite what Greg Hatcher says, there's no direct public gauge on the number of superhero comics readers; unless you're a market analyst you're only getting parts of the picture), then it's ludicrous to suggest that applying a general fix to a one of a dozen specific problems is going to have any appreciable effect in the short run, much less the long run.</p>
<p>Suppose you make everything newer. New number 1 issues, new origins, new... whatever. Even if the project can turn a profit, despite the fact that most of the material will simply be rehashes of material that's already been rehashed more times than necessary, you still have to A.) keep the continuity straight enough that the project's original goals aren't completely in vain, B.) keep the project's quality high enough above the previous status quo to justify the reboot, and C.) find creators that are willing and able to bring relevance to characters that haven't had any cross-medium relevance in a decade and a half.</p>
<p>It's idiotic to expect that you can reboot Nightwing and it'll become a quality comic book; no matter what issue number you put on it Peter Tomasi's still a mediocre writer. And though he may be able to accomplish A; B and C are going to be ignored because Peter Tomasi just isn't that good. You can't improve your creative assets through editorial mandate, and if you think you can you might as well just cross your fingers or knock on wood for all the good it'll do.</p>
<p>Of course, that's just the creative problems. Nevermind that both of the major universes are still hamstrung by their distribution arrangements and facing hard competition from every other entertainment medium, we're going to fix everything through the power of #1 issues!</p>
<p>The reason why Dan Didio has largely failed as an Editor in Chief is that his changes have been simplistic and poorly thought out. True to form, the internet (which, much like the real world, is mostly populated by idiots) has agitated almost every step of the way for <i>different</i> simplistic and poorly thought out changes. Simply put, Dan Didio is a fanboy who made it big, who is now hounded by fanboys who have not. Mind you, there's no value judgment there, except that both Didio and his critics are by and large neanderthals.</p>
<p>As Grant Morrison would say, the comic book industry doesn't need to be saved. The Didio's and Quesada's of the world will play in their editorially mandated sand boxes, unnoticed by the sane world and underwritten by vast licensing empires perpetuated by the iconic strengths of their characters along with TV and movie adaptations. Meanwhile the worthwhile from both companies will rise above and find acceptance through other distribution mediums; Marvel will put out highly lucrative Marvel Adventures titles for the little ones, DC will squeeze out the occasional bit of literary superheroics (ex: All Star Superman) for the bookshelves, and the Rob Kirkman types will get indy street cred by raging against the mainstream superhero shared universe machine.</p>
<p>All will continue to be right and as it should be in this best of all possible worlds, except for the fact that people will still accept mediocrity as worthwhile reading material, but ain't that just the way?</p>
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		<title>By: AERose</title>
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		<dc:creator>AERose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 04:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well, my theory is that DiDio is going to simply reboot the entire DCU.&quot;

Right, well, on the other hand that&#039;s a terrible theory unsupported by anything, ever.

Just thought I should bring that up.

You know, &lt;i&gt;for balance&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Well, my theory is that DiDio is going to simply reboot the entire DCU."</p>
<p>Right, well, on the other hand that's a terrible theory unsupported by anything, ever.</p>
<p>Just thought I should bring that up.</p>
<p>You know, <i>for balance</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Aito Steele</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/10/30/whats-next-for-dc/comment-page-2/#comment-689822</link>
		<dc:creator>Aito Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that part of the popularity of &quot;mainstream&quot; iterations of comic book stories, namely &quot;Smallville&quot; and &quot;Batman Begins&quot;, is that they give a wide audience an in to these characters without bogging them down in continuity - and they throw in bones for fanboys that make us feel appreciated. I totally geeked out on Lucius Fox in a movie, which my wife didn&#039;t understand at all, though she loved the movie.

With comic book readership dwindling - I haven&#039;t bought any comic books except for trades in years - giving a continuity clean reboot may open the door to that wider audience that made &quot;The Dark Knight&quot; such a huge hit, something that can&#039;t be ignored. It may cheese off the bird in hand but if it lures any of the 500 million or so birds in the bush, that would seem like a good business decision.

With 007 getting an enormously popular reboot, the reboot has gone mainstream and while unlikely a company wide reboot is probably not as frightening to DC corporate as one might imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that part of the popularity of "mainstream" iterations of comic book stories, namely "Smallville" and "Batman Begins", is that they give a wide audience an in to these characters without bogging them down in continuity - and they throw in bones for fanboys that make us feel appreciated. I totally geeked out on Lucius Fox in a movie, which my wife didn't understand at all, though she loved the movie.</p>
<p>With comic book readership dwindling - I haven't bought any comic books except for trades in years - giving a continuity clean reboot may open the door to that wider audience that made "The Dark Knight" such a huge hit, something that can't be ignored. It may cheese off the bird in hand but if it lures any of the 500 million or so birds in the bush, that would seem like a good business decision.</p>
<p>With 007 getting an enormously popular reboot, the reboot has gone mainstream and while unlikely a company wide reboot is probably not as frightening to DC corporate as one might imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A total reboot?

Ain&#039;t happening.

For one thing, &quot;Darkest Night&quot; won&#039;t be done with by February, will it?  Will even the Superman New Krypton arc be done?

A partial reboot I could see.  Another case of selectively changing what they need to (or just plain want to) and leaving the rest of the dreck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A total reboot?</p>
<p>Ain't happening.</p>
<p>For one thing, "Darkest Night" won't be done with by February, will it?  Will even the Superman New Krypton arc be done?</p>
<p>A partial reboot I could see.  Another case of selectively changing what they need to (or just plain want to) and leaving the rest of the dreck.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that some of DC&#039;s biggest commercial successes recently have come as a result of Johns&#039; &#039;include and transcend&#039; method, it seems pretty unlikely that that the company would go for a hard reboot now.

It&#039;d be pretty stupid of them to do so, IMO, at least while Johns is still in good form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that some of DC's biggest commercial successes recently have come as a result of Johns' 'include and transcend' method, it seems pretty unlikely that that the company would go for a hard reboot now.</p>
<p>It'd be pretty stupid of them to do so, IMO, at least while Johns is still in good form.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;m all about the reboot.

But you don&#039;t do it all at once.  You create a new line, like &quot;DC 2.0&quot;.  You put a big &quot;2.0&quot; at the top of every book that takes place in the new continuity.  And then slowly, over time, you migrate everything over to that line.  It starts with Superman and Batman, and then over time, as other books reach a good ending place, you end them, and re-launch them in the 2.0 imprint (if they want to).  So things like &quot;Blackest Night&quot; have time to play out.

@John: &quot;Supergirlâ€™s dead! The Flash is dead. Oh, wait, now theyâ€™re back. Jason Todd is dead and will never be brought back. Oh, wait, now heâ€™s backâ€¦ but from another universe. But the multiverse doesnâ€™t exist any more. Oh, wait, it does exist. Letâ€™s have another â€œCrisisâ€ series and fix itâ€¦ again.&quot;

You&#039;re ignoring the fact that in most cases, there were years and years of time between the &quot;death&quot; and the &quot;rebirth&quot;.   You make it sound like DC is constantly flip-flopping, when there are entirely different editorial teams dealing with the &quot;death&quot; and the &quot;rebirth&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it's worth, I'm all about the reboot.</p>
<p>But you don't do it all at once.  You create a new line, like "DC 2.0".  You put a big "2.0" at the top of every book that takes place in the new continuity.  And then slowly, over time, you migrate everything over to that line.  It starts with Superman and Batman, and then over time, as other books reach a good ending place, you end them, and re-launch them in the 2.0 imprint (if they want to).  So things like "Blackest Night" have time to play out.</p>
<p>@John: "Supergirlâ€™s dead! The Flash is dead. Oh, wait, now theyâ€™re back. Jason Todd is dead and will never be brought back. Oh, wait, now heâ€™s backâ€¦ but from another universe. But the multiverse doesnâ€™t exist any more. Oh, wait, it does exist. Letâ€™s have another â€œCrisisâ€ series and fix itâ€¦ again."</p>
<p>You're ignoring the fact that in most cases, there were years and years of time between the "death" and the "rebirth".   You make it sound like DC is constantly flip-flopping, when there are entirely different editorial teams dealing with the "death" and the "rebirth".</p>
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