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		<title>By: clint adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>clint adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZERO HOUR LEGION - the only Legion that was fan friendly right off the bat.  You NEVER had to read a buch of other comics to enjoy the issues.  Plus, Sprouse/Moy/Immonens art is fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZERO HOUR LEGION &#8211; the only Legion that was fan friendly right off the bat.  You NEVER had to read a buch of other comics to enjoy the issues.  Plus, Sprouse/Moy/Immonens art is fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Basara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One also has to consider that there were a lot of dimensional ramifications in the earlier series - all the one-shot stories of them in alternate realities. Consider that one incarnation of the Time Trapper was actually Cos! While I liked the SW6 bunch, the ways they took some of the older characters in the 5YL storyline really grated on me, as  I started reading the series in earnest a year before COIE. 

I particularly loathe (though still read, until my local comic store closed) the most recent version of the Legion, as it was based on a REALLY bad premise. 

I really do feel that there is room for the pre-Zero-hour &amp; post-Zero-hour LSH to exist as JLA/JSA type analogues of each other. I just wish I had the ability to read the Legion of 3 worlds comics, as the comic store went belly-up the week before it shipped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One also has to consider that there were a lot of dimensional ramifications in the earlier series &#8211; all the one-shot stories of them in alternate realities. Consider that one incarnation of the Time Trapper was actually Cos! While I liked the SW6 bunch, the ways they took some of the older characters in the 5YL storyline really grated on me, as  I started reading the series in earnest a year before COIE. </p>
<p>I particularly loathe (though still read, until my local comic store closed) the most recent version of the Legion, as it was based on a REALLY bad premise. </p>
<p>I really do feel that there is room for the pre-Zero-hour &amp; post-Zero-hour LSH to exist as JLA/JSA type analogues of each other. I just wish I had the ability to read the Legion of 3 worlds comics, as the comic store went belly-up the week before it shipped.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Frey</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/11/02/112-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-2/#comment-690242</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Frey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Levitz had the balance right, able to tell every kind of story: fun, serious, quick stories, long, epic tales.  Everyone since has taken it too seriously, with only occasional forays into more light-hearted storytelling or tried to use them to make some big point (at which point they become a big bore).  I *hated* this current run until Shooter came along.  He&#039;s the best writer they&#039;ve had since Levitz and it&#039;s too bad he didn&#039;t get to either reboot or pick up with the &quot;real&quot; Legion.  Still, he did amazing things with a lousy setup.  

So, if I had to choose, I&#039;d pick up where Levitz left off, with the original characters, un-&quot;growed up&quot; and un-altered by timestream shifting or reboots.  The original characters that stretched back to the first appearance of Mon-El.  We&#039;ve pretty much got them back with the recent Action/Legion of Three Worlds stuff, so I&#039;d shift it to them.  They are, after all, the original characters and I&#039;d like them back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levitz had the balance right, able to tell every kind of story: fun, serious, quick stories, long, epic tales.  Everyone since has taken it too seriously, with only occasional forays into more light-hearted storytelling or tried to use them to make some big point (at which point they become a big bore).  I *hated* this current run until Shooter came along.  He&#8217;s the best writer they&#8217;ve had since Levitz and it&#8217;s too bad he didn&#8217;t get to either reboot or pick up with the &#8220;real&#8221; Legion.  Still, he did amazing things with a lousy setup.  </p>
<p>So, if I had to choose, I&#8217;d pick up where Levitz left off, with the original characters, un-&#8221;growed up&#8221; and un-altered by timestream shifting or reboots.  The original characters that stretched back to the first appearance of Mon-El.  We&#8217;ve pretty much got them back with the recent Action/Legion of Three Worlds stuff, so I&#8217;d shift it to them.  They are, after all, the original characters and I&#8217;d like them back.</p>
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		<title>By: Tungsten Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tungsten Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tried really hard to get into the Legion, but as someone who never read DC as a kid, it&#039;s impossible. Too many characters rewritten too many times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried really hard to get into the Legion, but as someone who never read DC as a kid, it&#8217;s impossible. Too many characters rewritten too many times.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackjak</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/11/02/112-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-2/#comment-690225</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackjak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L.E.G.I.O.N.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L.E.G.I.O.N.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob T. Levy</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/11/02/112-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-2/#comment-690214</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob T. Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think a reboot or restart or continuity jigger is a good idea.  But if it were being written just for my amusement, and we can do what lots of people have wanted and pick a &quot;just before it all went wrong&quot; moment, I&#039;d say:

Put the post-ZH but pre-Legion Lost reboot Legion into an all-ages book.

Put the post-Magic Wars, pre-5YL Legion into a standard book which would be the main title.  (Am I the only one who&#039;s sad to see Geoff Johns wipe out the Baxter era?  There was a lot of good stuff in there, dammit!  And I know it was out of continuity before, but somehow this feels worse-- it&#039;s an alternate future for ostensibly the same Levitz-era characters.)

And put the post-liberation of earth, pre-earth blowing up Giffen Legion, without SW6, into a mature-readers book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think a reboot or restart or continuity jigger is a good idea.  But if it were being written just for my amusement, and we can do what lots of people have wanted and pick a &#8220;just before it all went wrong&#8221; moment, I&#8217;d say:</p>
<p>Put the post-ZH but pre-Legion Lost reboot Legion into an all-ages book.</p>
<p>Put the post-Magic Wars, pre-5YL Legion into a standard book which would be the main title.  (Am I the only one who&#8217;s sad to see Geoff Johns wipe out the Baxter era?  There was a lot of good stuff in there, dammit!  And I know it was out of continuity before, but somehow this feels worse&#8211; it&#8217;s an alternate future for ostensibly the same Levitz-era characters.)</p>
<p>And put the post-liberation of earth, pre-earth blowing up Giffen Legion, without SW6, into a mature-readers book.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, there&#039;s no version that couldn&#039;t be made to work. I like them all in different ways. What I&#039;d do, myself, is make one big Legion by keeping the existing three together after FC:L3W, and find a way to make that work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, there&#8217;s no version that couldn&#8217;t be made to work. I like them all in different ways. What I&#8217;d do, myself, is make one big Legion by keeping the existing three together after FC:L3W, and find a way to make that work.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/11/02/112-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-2/#comment-690133</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I do wonder what was wrong with the latest one that DC felt like they had to start messing around with it AGAIN.&quot;

They seem to be one of the more egregious examples recently of it&#039;s-not-what-I-read-as-a-kid-therefore-it&#039;s-bad syndrome, of which Johns has become more and more enraptured by as time goes on.

I liked &#039;em just fine, personally. Even Supergirl didn&#039;t bug me, since Waid found a good story hook for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I do wonder what was wrong with the latest one that DC felt like they had to start messing around with it AGAIN.&#8221;</p>
<p>They seem to be one of the more egregious examples recently of it&#8217;s-not-what-I-read-as-a-kid-therefore-it&#8217;s-bad syndrome, of which Johns has become more and more enraptured by as time goes on.</p>
<p>I liked &#8216;em just fine, personally. Even Supergirl didn&#8217;t bug me, since Waid found a good story hook for her.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I can only have one I have to go with the Waid Legion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I can only have one I have to go with the Waid Legion.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Five Year Later all the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Five Year Later all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Sijo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sijo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last thing Legion needs is ANOTHER reboot... but DC seems to have no faith in the series. The Threeboot was really unnecessary.

IF I could have Legion my way, I&#039;d do a combination- one where the history OF EACH INDIVIDUAL CHARACTER is studied, and the best elements of each is used. (The TV series was kind of like that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last thing Legion needs is ANOTHER reboot&#8230; but DC seems to have no faith in the series. The Threeboot was really unnecessary.</p>
<p>IF I could have Legion my way, I&#8217;d do a combination- one where the history OF EACH INDIVIDUAL CHARACTER is studied, and the best elements of each is used. (The TV series was kind of like that.)</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Vingoe</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/11/02/112-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-2/#comment-690035</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Vingoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m quite content to see what DC have come up with for the Legion. The Waid /Kitson reboot lost its appeal to me due to its slow pace and the introduction of Supergirl , and I have plans to read the Shooter/Manapul run in trade form. All I ask is that its entertaining and in the spirit of the previous Legions irespective of era</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m quite content to see what DC have come up with for the Legion. The Waid /Kitson reboot lost its appeal to me due to its slow pace and the introduction of Supergirl , and I have plans to read the Shooter/Manapul run in trade form. All I ask is that its entertaining and in the spirit of the previous Legions irespective of era</p>
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		<title>By: Beta Ray Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beta Ray Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the Levitz Legion, it had a good balance of fun and serious.
And someday, after they get string theory, with it&#039;s 11 dimensions, squared away, maybe the geniuses could tackle Legion continuity, because it is such a train wreck it makes it a challenge for people who like the Legion to follow it, what with the reboots every few years. 
DC just needs to do a Legion Year One and stick to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the Levitz Legion, it had a good balance of fun and serious.<br />
And someday, after they get string theory, with it&#8217;s 11 dimensions, squared away, maybe the geniuses could tackle Legion continuity, because it is such a train wreck it makes it a challenge for people who like the Legion to follow it, what with the reboots every few years.<br />
DC just needs to do a Legion Year One and stick to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any version, as long as Infectious Lass is present &amp; accounted for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any version, as long as Infectious Lass is present &amp; accounted for.</p>
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		<title>By: Bat2supe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bat2supe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitly, the Waid/Kitson era because it&#039;s he most recent, not embued in a long continuity &amp; logically doesn&#039;t need a reintroduction that would have you look at lost comics.

At that point, that seems like another bad move from DC to reboot a title after 50 issues, odd editorial logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitly, the Waid/Kitson era because it&#8217;s he most recent, not embued in a long continuity &amp; logically doesn&#8217;t need a reintroduction that would have you look at lost comics.</p>
<p>At that point, that seems like another bad move from DC to reboot a title after 50 issues, odd editorial logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Walid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The DnA Legion was good because it had its own characters such as Gates and XS.&quot;

But they didn&#039;t come up or introduce those characters...they were introduced in the post-ZH, before the DnA run began.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The DnA Legion was good because it had its own characters such as Gates and XS.&#8221;</p>
<p>But they didn&#8217;t come up or introduce those characters&#8230;they were introduced in the post-ZH, before the DnA run began.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Rook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Rook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post-Zero Hour (or, as called by idiots incapable of doing anything but looking at the so-called &quot;ugly pikshurs&quot;, the &#039;Archie Legion&#039;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post-Zero Hour (or, as called by idiots incapable of doing anything but looking at the so-called &#8220;ugly pikshurs&#8221;, the &#8216;Archie Legion&#8217;).</p>
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		<title>By: RAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 05:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far back as the Seventies, I personally heard fans tell me their elaborate plans to erase everything after &lt;i&gt;Adventure Comics&lt;/i&gt; #346 so that the book could finally get back to the &quot;real&quot; Legion before Jim Shooter &quot;spoiled&quot; it...or everything after Dave Cockrum started redesigning the costumes and they were no longer &quot;the team I grew up with&quot;...or everything after Paul Levitz/Gerry Conway/your name here came along and ruined what used to be so great.  This is a long-standing tradition.

And yes, there are also the fans Greg describes, who seem to follow any incarnation of the book with equal loyalty.  To be honest, that&#039;s as inexplicable to me as the above: if I like a comic it&#039;s because of the work by a writer and/or an artist, so I follow &lt;i&gt;them&lt;/i&gt; rather than a title or a character.

People who are asking for one particular era to come back are bound to be disappointed; it&#039;s like asking for your childhood back.  (If you&#039;re saying you&#039;d like to see Keith Giffen or Mark Waid or Paul Levitz themselves come back to the book, that&#039;s another matter.  I myself was interested both times Jim Shooter returned to the series, and both times I enjoyed the results immensely.  Obviously I was in a minority there!)  But no one incarnation of the series had a monopoly on being the &quot;real&quot; thing.  Going back to an earlier version won&#039;t suddenly make you the person who read that version, so don&#039;t expect that.

If I must take a side here, I have to agree with Michael that there&#039;s no creative point whatsoever to an aged Legion: that would be losing one of the critical elements that made the premise work in the first place.  The prospect of old, surly, stubbly Legionnaires dealing with prostate exams and telling those obnoxious kids to get their damn flight rings off my lawn fills me with deep despair.  Of all the things that wouldn&#039;t be the &quot;real&quot; Legion, that would be the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far back as the Seventies, I personally heard fans tell me their elaborate plans to erase everything after <i>Adventure Comics</i> #346 so that the book could finally get back to the &#8220;real&#8221; Legion before Jim Shooter &#8220;spoiled&#8221; it&#8230;or everything after Dave Cockrum started redesigning the costumes and they were no longer &#8220;the team I grew up with&#8221;&#8230;or everything after Paul Levitz/Gerry Conway/your name here came along and ruined what used to be so great.  This is a long-standing tradition.</p>
<p>And yes, there are also the fans Greg describes, who seem to follow any incarnation of the book with equal loyalty.  To be honest, that&#8217;s as inexplicable to me as the above: if I like a comic it&#8217;s because of the work by a writer and/or an artist, so I follow <i>them</i> rather than a title or a character.</p>
<p>People who are asking for one particular era to come back are bound to be disappointed; it&#8217;s like asking for your childhood back.  (If you&#8217;re saying you&#8217;d like to see Keith Giffen or Mark Waid or Paul Levitz themselves come back to the book, that&#8217;s another matter.  I myself was interested both times Jim Shooter returned to the series, and both times I enjoyed the results immensely.  Obviously I was in a minority there!)  But no one incarnation of the series had a monopoly on being the &#8220;real&#8221; thing.  Going back to an earlier version won&#8217;t suddenly make you the person who read that version, so don&#8217;t expect that.</p>
<p>If I must take a side here, I have to agree with Michael that there&#8217;s no creative point whatsoever to an aged Legion: that would be losing one of the critical elements that made the premise work in the first place.  The prospect of old, surly, stubbly Legionnaires dealing with prostate exams and telling those obnoxious kids to get their damn flight rings off my lawn fills me with deep despair.  Of all the things that wouldn&#8217;t be the &#8220;real&#8221; Legion, that would be the worst.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 05:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not me, Greg, I&#039;m strident.  I love everything up to the five years later gap, then hated the 5YL stories so much that I&#039;ve never read any subsequent Legion stories.  Who needs them?  I&#039;ve got a great 34 year saga that comes to its permanent and final end with the last issue of the Magic Wars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not me, Greg, I&#8217;m strident.  I love everything up to the five years later gap, then hated the 5YL stories so much that I&#8217;ve never read any subsequent Legion stories.  Who needs them?  I&#8217;ve got a great 34 year saga that comes to its permanent and final end with the last issue of the Magic Wars.</p>
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		<title>By: buttler</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/11/02/112-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-689989</link>
		<dc:creator>buttler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely the pre-reboot Legion. I&#039;d take it from where Giffen left off because I&#039;d hate to lose those stories, but I wouldn&#039;t grumble too much about leaving it at Levitz either.  Never had any interest in the various reboots, but I&#039;ve been excited to have at least some version of &quot;my&quot; Legion back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely the pre-reboot Legion. I&#8217;d take it from where Giffen left off because I&#8217;d hate to lose those stories, but I wouldn&#8217;t grumble too much about leaving it at Levitz either.  Never had any interest in the various reboots, but I&#8217;ve been excited to have at least some version of &#8220;my&#8221; Legion back.</p>
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