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Comic Critics #22!

Here is the latest installment of the Comic Critics strip, courtesy of Sean Whitmore (writer) and Brandon Hanvey (artist)! You can check out the first twenty-one strips at the archive here and read more about Sean and Brandon at the Comic Critics blog here!

Enjoy!

Let us know what you think, either here or at the ComicCritics blog!

  • Posted on November 12, 2008 @ 08:00 AM

24 Comments

Not as funny as the recent batch of installments, but still funny and still waaaay better than the early installments. I do wish they would bash superhero comic fans less, not because the crticisms are untrue but rather because all the criticisms of superhero fans have been done to death on the internet to the point they can be too easy a target. A few strips poking fun at indie comic fans, Morrison fans, Vertigo goths, etc. would be cool too I think, just to shake it up a little. Otherwise it's gonna get predictable.

Man, i love Kirkman's comics (his run on Ultimate X-Men aside) but he sure does come off as an asshole sometimes.

After a couple of upticks, we're back to 'Superhero fans am sooo stupid!"

ah well....

Can Robert Kirkman run?

I wasn't aware the man even wore shoes anymore...

With the get-up, her line should have been "Mr Kirkman, Come with me if you want to live!"
I'm glad to see Messrs Whitmore and Hanvey are getting into their stride now the first few ice-breakers are out of the way! Really starting to enjoy this. Looking forward to the first printed collection in a year or so...

Funny, I was watching a Doctor Who Confidential episode the other day where they were talking to everyone on the production team and the overriding feeling was "I got into the business because I wanted to work on this show!" Everyone from Davies to Tennant to Moffat had the same thoughts.

Kinda funny, given Kirkman's ironclad belief that such things only happen in comics. Geeks are geeks no matter the medium (my guess is you'd get the same type of answers if you asked around at ILM).

Awesome!! I particularly enjoy how well defined are the characters, so after 22 strips we know how they think or feel about some particular subjects. In fact, you have created a very enjoyable Storytelling Engine!â„¢ :D

"after ONLY 22 strips" I should have written on my previous post. It's a meager amount of space, and you have used it succesfully to define the characters. Well done!

Wah, wah, I hate superhero comics but I read enough of them to continually bash them and their readers.

Can't anyone enjoy indies AND superhero comics? Or are we automatically divided into pretentous indie pricks and slovenly superhero clones as Comic Critics is always quick to point out?

Well, Ryan, Profound Emotions (tm) are incompatible with Just Plain Fun (tm). Duh!

There's Just Plain Fun and then there is Beating a Dead Horse

Blackjak:
With the get-up, her line should have been “Mr Kirkman, Come with me if you want to live!”

Yup..my exact thoughts.

Not as good as the past few, but still pretty good.

Now, had it been pirate werewolf lesbians.....

Kirkman's line is amusing, since Pulp Fiction was basically Tarantino remaking his favorite noir movies.

I'm guessing the joke is that pirate werewolves are as cliche as superheroes, just like how the counter-culture kids all want to non-conform and all end up non-conforming in the same why. Because the idea of pirate werewolves doesn't seem that original to me. I mean that particular combination probably hasn't been done before but it seems like we're constantly getting combinations of pirates and ninja and vampires and monkeys and I for one am getting kind of sick of it. Too me there doesn't seem much difference between being slaves to the tropes of the 1970s and eing slaves to the tropes of the 2000s.

I never watched his little video. Did he actually say that? That's incredibly dumb. Movie fans wanting to make Pulp Fiction 2 would be like comic fans wanting to make Watchmen 2. It's more like someone growing up wanting to write the next Bond movie.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

November 12, 2008 at 9:11 pm

A few strips poking fun at indie comic fans, Morrison fans, Vertigo goths, etc. would be cool too I think, just to shake it up a little. Otherwise it’s gonna get predictable.

So stop poking fun of people like you then?

Also, when was the last time Vertigo catered to the goth market?
I thought Gaiman was the only time they did that - and that was a decade ago.

So stop poking fun of people like you then?

Where the hell did this response come from? All I'm saying is that it's getting repetitive by using the same jokes about the same targets over and over again, and that it could stand to diversify the targets given that comics have so many subgenre of fans worth picking on. Why that offends you or makes you play armchair psychologist with me is beyond me.

I’m guessing the joke is that pirate werewolves are as cliche as superheroes, just like how the counter-culture kids all want to non-conform and all end up non-conforming in the same why.

No, she wants to make sure the "zombies" didn't infect Kirkman, so she wants to make sure that he's still true to his mission. She asks him what he's working on next as a test. When he responds with pirate werewolves, she is relieved that the encounter with superhero "zombies" hasn't infected him into becoming a superhero zombie himself. Since he didn't get infected and is still true to his mission statement, she gives him the OK to climb on the bike.

>>When he responds with pirate werewolves, she is relieved that the encounter with superhero “zombies” hasn’t infected him into becoming a superhero zombie himself.<<

Never mind that Kirkman has written 54 or so issues of the (admittedly creator-owned) superhero comic INVINCIBLE, wrote 25 issues of the superhero comic MARVEL TEAM-UP, wrote a dozen or so ishes of the superhero comic IRREDEEMABLE ANTMAN, wrote I have no idea how many issues of the superhero comic ULTIMATE X-MEN (I think), etc. Probably that's all part of the joke, especially since the MTU & X-MEN stints are referenced in the dialogue.

Good comic this time around!

Okay, I should probably rephrase to say "She's testing to make sure he didn't revert (or revert back HAHA) into a superhero zombie."

Hasn't he seen how many "Pulp Fiction"-lite scripts were (and still are) being made? People grow up wanting to work in their favorite genres all the time. Not much call for a Harryhausen acolyte in a Merchant Ivory production after-all.

@T

Yeah I got that, I just thought that maybe they were going for some dramatic irony, in that the indy fan thinks that a comic about pirate werewolves is so much more brave and worthy than that cliched superhero muck, while we in the audience realise that pirate werewolves are as cliched an idea as superheroes, but it was subtle enough a joke that I couldn't be sure it wasn't just in my head. If the entire joke is that the indy fan thinks that superhero fans are like zombies, yeah then that's not so funny.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

November 13, 2008 at 5:12 pm

Where the hell did this response come from?

Just made me laugh as I get the vibe you're predominantly a superhero guy, and don't think all that much of Morrison, so it just made me laugh that you suggested moving from superhero fans to Morrison fans specifically.
Nothing more to it than that.

"Movie fans wanting to make Pulp Fiction 2 would be like comic fans wanting to make Watchmen 2."

Plenty of comics professionals are trying to make Watchmen 2. So far, all of them have failed.

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