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What I bought – 26 November 2008
One book overshadows them all this week! I am speaking, of course, of … True Believers #5! What, you thought I was going to say something else? What else could there be?
Batman #681 by Grant “You fell for it, fanboys!” Morrison (writer), Tony Daniel (penciller), Sandu Florea (inker), Guy Major (colorist), and Jared K. Fletcher (letterer). $3.99, 32 pgs, FC, DC.
Well, I guess there’s this one. Minor SPOILERS, I suppose. Our Dread Lord and Master has weighed in on this issue, and while he makes some trenchant points, I cannot agree with his conclusion. This is not a good issue. It’s mediocre, which is, unfortunately, all too indicative of the God of All Comics’ run on Batman. It’s a perfectly okay superhero comic, but part of the “disappointment,” as Brian puts it, is that Morrison is not a perfectly okay superhero writer. Yes, we expect more out of Morrison, not only from this run on the title, but from everything else he writes. So although it’s not a bad comic, it’s worse for being written by G-Mozz.
The problem is not that DC has hyped this to the skies, but that it’s clearly the culmination of a section of Morrison’s run. I don’t know whether he’s returning to the book or not, but it’s still clear that this is the “end” of a part of it. Therefore, the fact that he leads into other story arcs isn’t that big a deal, but he himself was the one who set this up as “the big ending,” so the fact that he still can’t commit to anything makes it much more frustrating. Is Hurt the devil? Is Bruce insane? Did Bruce cause all of this? Morrison wants to bring ambiguous storytelling to a mainstream superhero comic, but that’s not what mainstream superhero comics are all about. If this were his own creation or a completely minor character, he could leave it with ambiguity (as he’s done in the past to very good effect). But it’s not. And that’s where this falls apart a bit. Morrison wants to write a top-selling book, but he also wants to experiment. Unfortunately, he doesn’t go far enough with this and turn it into something truly experimental like Seaguy or even Seven Soldiers, and therefore we get this mess, where there are several interesting moments but the overall vision doesn’t cohere.
Consider the insanity of Batman, as there’s so much to consider about the run that it’s too big to deal with here. The single most interesting part of Morrison’s run has been delving into whether Bruce is insane or not. And until a few issues ago, he was doing a good job with it. Last issue he changed the focus back to the Black Glove organization, and in this issue, he reveals that Batman was in complete control all the time and anticipated pretty much everything, including the fact that Hurt wouldn’t blow his brains out when he had him helpless. The return of Morrison’s SUPER-BATMAN! is kind of annoying, because when he was in the JLA, it was neat to see him outthink and often outfight all the superpowered individuals around him, but here, it’s less impressive because he has no foil. The hints that he really was (and is) insane are there, to a degree, but it’s not as good as actually seeing him fall apart from the pressure of maintaining this dual life. Ironically, this makes “Knightfall” – the last time Batman gave up being Batman for a while – more interesting that “R.I.P.” As goofy as that story was (and it was extremely goofy), at least Batman was shown as human, with human frailties, and when Bane snapped him like a twig, it felt more important than Morrison’s ambiguous helicopter explosion. With that story, you could actually see Batman losing focus and becoming more and more desperate until he was just burned out. With this, Morrison fakes us out – Batman is in complete control all the time, and the Black Glove becomes far less imposing. As a certain pale-skinned dude once said to a dude with teeth in his eye sockets, it’s just “something else for people to be scared of.” Not terribly impressive, in the final analysis.
Morrison also forces us to connect the dots far too much, but doesn’t fill the space that he does have with anything interesting. Robin saves the city? When? There’s a lack of completion in this comic, and while it tends to work in Final Crisis, which leaves things off-panel to show the all-encompassing evil of Darkseid, here it isn’t excised for anything more than blather between the Joker and Hurt and Batman. While in FC it’s somewhat ominous that so much is happening off-panel, it’s less effective here because it means the Morrison has to fall into the worst trap a storyteller can fall into – he starts telling us stuff instead of showing it, and throughout this run, the lack of showing the extraneous stuff, along with Daniel’s poor storytelling skills, means he has to explain too much. Yes, much of this is deliberately ambiguous, and the final page returns to this idea of Bruce being insane (which, if Morrison does continue writing after the O’Neil/Gaiman hiatus, would be something I’d like to see further explored), but too much ambiguity is not good for a Batman book. This isn’t real life, after all (as much as the Joker insists otherwise).
I’m not certain I’ll come back to the book, because this is a disappointment, no matter how Brian wants to spin it. I didn’t expect it to “cure cancer,” but I did expect Morrison to deliver a better story. Stringing words together that explain absolutely nothing isn’t a good story. Creating weird characters, updating others, and bringing old Batman continuity into sync with the modern incarnation is interesting, but not to the point where it makes this a good story. Always remember – when Morrison is great, the weirdness works in service of the story. When he’s not good, he’s still interesting, but ultimately disappointing. I haven’t re-read this run (Morrison’s stories always read better in one chunk), but so far, Batman has been an ambitious and interesting failure.
Sales figures for the previous two issues (#679 and 680, August and October): 103,588 (rank: 4) and 103,941 (rank: 4). Hey, this sells well. What do you know?
Battlefields: The Night Witches #2 (of 3) by Garth Ennis (writer), Russ Braun (artist), Tony Aviña (colorist), and Simon Bowland (letterer). $3.50, 22 pgs, FC, Dynamite Entertainment.
While the first issue of this series was a fairly typical Ennis war story, which isn’t a bad thing, this issue is measurably better, as Ennis focuses on the Germans on the ground and the horror of war. Yes, he always focuses on the horror of war, but the way the Germans deal with a prisoner is horrifying on a lot of levels, not the least of which is the way the German commander wants to make sure everyone in his unit shares in his crimes and becomes something less than human. It’s this aspect of war that often gets overlooked in war comics – not that individuals become monsters, but that the mob mentality can even infect a well trained, disciplined unit of men. It’s not even about looking the other way when an individual does something terrible, it’s that everyone actively participates in the terrible events. Ennis does a very good job in a short period of time showing how the Germans have become brutalized by the invasion of Russia and therefore become brutalizers to hide their fear about dying in a strange country for reasons they don’t understand. They have no control, so they seize it in the most horrifying way.
This is an unpleasant issue, but it’s quite good. Next issue, things will go poorly for all involved, I’m sure, but I’ll be there to read it!
Sales figures for the previous issue (#1, October): 13,097 (rank: 166). Again, I don’t know if this is any good for a Dynamite book. It seems pretty good, but I don’t know. It’s better than Blue Beetle (see below)!
Blue Beetle #33 by Matthew Sturges (writer), Rafael Albuquerque (artist), Guy Major (colorist), and Sal Cipriano (letterer). $2.99, 22 pgs, FC, DC.
Well, it’s canceled, so who cares, right? It’s too bad, because Albuquerque is fantastic, as usual (get him a bigger book, DC!), and Sturges has done a nice job with the characters. Occasionally in this issue, the backgrounds fall away and it’s tough to figure out exactly where everyone is in El Paso, but that’s a minor point. There’s just a lot to like about this comic, and it’s too bad it never really found an audience. But that’s okay – three years with a third-generation character and no big names on the book is pretty impressive. As others have pointed out, the timing is awfully strange. DC could have pulled the plug with issue #25 and Rogers’ last issue, because it was the end of his huge storyline. Then they had guest writers, which killed any momentum the book might have had from the end of Rogers’ run. Now, Jaime is featured prominently in a new Justice League cartoon (it’s the Justice League, right? I don’t watch cartoons), which means a higher profile … just in time to get canceled. It just seems weird. I would imagine this comic would do well with teenagers, probably in library collections, but of course that doesn’t make much money for DC. I’m not saying that Blue Beetle is the greatest comic ever written, but it seems to speak, once again, to a lack of long-term strategy by the Big Two. As a teen-friendly, non-traditional superhero book (Jaime’s Hispanic and lives in El Paso, after all), this seems like a good gateway comic. I know it doesn’t make any money, but it’s too bad DC couldn’t figure out a way to keep it going. Oh well. Life goes on.
Sales figures for the previous two issues (#31 and 32, September and October): 12,302 (rank: 161) and 11,828 (rank: 175). The last time I checked its numbers, I wondered why it hadn’t been canceled yet. I guess that answers my question!
Golly! #3 by Phil Hester (writer), Brook Turner (artist), Rick Hiltbrunner (colorist), and Sean Konot (letterer). $3.50, 26 pgs, FC, Image.
As much as I enjoy circus freaks attempting to douse a were-hog in holy water, I’m not sure if I want to keep buying this series. I may have to give it another few issues, because the first three issues are kind of fun. I mean, who doesn’t love a were-hog? Especially when it gets set on fire and runs rampant through the countryside? It’s a fun comic with plenty of action, but the issue I have with this issue, and this entire story arc, is that it feels like Hester wrote the entire thing to set up a puerile joke. Maybe he didn’t do it the first two issues, but this issue seems like it’s moving inexorably toward an unfunny joke, and we can see it coming a mile away. It’s frustrating, because it’s a neat idea, but if it’s just a vehicle for dumb jokes, what’s the point?
I will check out another issue or two, mainly because I pre-ordered them. But I also want to see if Hester is going to rise above the urge to do silly things. Funny, I can deal with. Silly, I don’t really care for.
The were-hog on fire is pretty cool, though.
Sales figures for the previous two issues (#1 and 2, August and September): 5,232 (rank: 225) and 2,896 (rank: 299). That’s a big drop, so maybe soon I won’t have to worry about whether I should buy it or not.
The Incredible Hercules #123 by Greg Pak (writer), Fred van Lente (writer), Clayton Henry (penciler), Salva Espin (inker), Raúl Treviño (colorist), and Joe Caramagna (letterer). $2.99, 22 pgs, FC, Marvel.
All is explained, from what went on in Atlantis back in the day to what the Amazons are looking for to who is behind it all. Plus, Amadeus gets stupid! Okay, that’s not a very good part of the book. I don’t have a problem with his intelligence being enhanced by junk food and whatnot, but man! he’s dumb. But that shouldn’t distract us from yet another marvelous issue of The Incredible Hercules, as Pak and Van Lente bring us more delightful dialogue, and interesting story, and nasty tentacled creatures. Yay, nasty tentacled creatures! There’s even a tragis death which kind of bothered me, mainly because I liked the character who ends up dead. But it’s kind of testament to the writers that they’ve made the character so interesting in so short a time. And Henry’s art is very nice – the book can’t keep a regular artist, it seems (perhaps by design), but each artist that comes on has done a fine job.
Van Lente and Pak have kept up the quality of this book without sacrificing the fantastic action. It really is an amazingly fun book, month after month. And, of course, it has the best recap pages in the Marvel world!
Sales figures for the previous two issues (#121 and 122, September and October): 47,363 (rank: 41) and 42,876 (rank: 60). That’s a big drop. I hope it doesn’t portend something. That would suck, although I would imagine 42,000 is a good number for a book like this.
Northlanders #12 by Brian Wood (writer), Ryan Kelly (artist), Dave McCaig (colorist), and Travis Lanham (letterer). $2.99, 18 pgs (or 24!), FC, DC/Vertigo.
I wonder if you write Brian Wood’s name five times, he’ll appear on the blog … like the Candyman! (Let’s try – Brian Wood Brian Wood Brian Wood Brian Wood Brian Wood!) I do have a question about this issue, but perhaps it’s not for him to answer. Here’s what’s going with my copy, and I wonder if it’s going on with yours – you did buy this, didn’t you? It’s quite excellent, you know!
Okay, page 6 shows us Magnus about to attack a farm. The Vikings try to stop him, but he’s indomitable! He jumps them and starts the beating. This takes place over pages 7, 8, and 9. Then those three pages are repeated! On page 10 (or page 13, if we’re being specific) we go back to Ragnar’s camp, where one of the Vikings who escaped tells him about the attack and Ragnar takes it, well, not well. This scene takes place over pages 10, 11, and 12 (or 13, 14, and 15) … and then is repeated! Finally page 13 (or, by now, page 19) moves us on. What, indeed, the fuck? The story is seamless, so I don’t think we’ve missed any pages (although the main story is only 18 pages long), but is that true? Did we miss some actual pages while DC was repeating pages? Did I miss any ass-kicking? Burgas get angry when he miss ass-kicking!!!!!
Anyway, Magnus does his thing, Ragnar tries to figure out why he attacked this particular group of Vikings, all the while trying to get back to the fighting against Brian Boru. Who doesn’t want to fight those filthy Irish? So there’s Magnus killing Vikings against the backdrop of a bigger fight. It’s a quick issue (partly because of the weird page thing), but Wood packs a lot into it. Kelly’s art is absolutely stunning, especially the panel where Magnus looks out at the farm from the bushes and the page where the Viking armies organize at Clontarf. The entire book looks great, but Kelly’s attention to detail in several panels is staggering.
I’m still not sure what Wood is doing with Magnus and Brigid (his daughter), especially as the name of the arc is “The Cross and the Hammer.” I don’t really care to speculate, because I enjoy reading each chapter individually. But what’s going on with the pages, Brian Wood? Or associate editor Mark Doyle? Or editor Will Dennis? Please help me make sense of my crazy world!
Sales figures for the previous two issues (#10 and 11, September and October): 10,738 (rank: 173) and 10,353 (rank: 192). Holding steady, which is nice, and selling far more than Scalped, which is up to issue #23, so I guess that’s a good sign.
She-Hulk #35 by Peter David (writer), Pasquale Qualano (penciler), Vincenzo Acunzo (inker), Barbara Ciardo (colorist), and Dave Sharpe (letterer). $2.99, 22 pgs, FC, Marvel.
Another book that is canceled, so there’s no point in discussing it. You can’t save it now! I do like that the Russian heroes decide to act like it when they’re confronted with the reality of the situation in earthquake-ravaged Marinmer, and I do not like that She-Hulk implies that she’s going to kill the ruler of that selfsame country. Jen won’t do that, I think we can all agree, especially not with malice aforethought. Anyway, in the comments announcing its cancellation, many people spoke about their disdain for the change in direction David took the book in after Slott left. That’s kind of what bugs me about comics fans. I understand if people read David’s first few issues and didn’t find them to their liking, because I was about to drop the book a few issues into his run, but stuck with it and watched it get better. So if you just didn’t like what David was doing, fine. But it bugs me when people say they want whatever is working to continue indefinitely, especially if a new writer comes on. The law firm’s schtick was losing its charm even before Slott left, as he even lost some interest in it. Yes, it was clever, but it obviously wasn’t winning a lot of readers (as it had already been canceled once). David tried something different, and it didn’t work either. If Slott had stayed or David had continued at the law firm, I bet the book would be getting canceled about now if it hadn’t been already. So Marvel tried something else to save the book and it didn’t work. That’s fine. Fifty issues of the latest incarnation of the Jade Giantess is okay.
Sales figures for the previous two issues (#33 and 34, September and October): 32,862 (rank: 70) and 22,763 (rank: 122). That’s a huge drop between issues, and it came before the cancellation notice, so I wonder why it happened. Anyway, it’s interesting that this is still over 20,000 and is getting the axe while our friend Blue Beetle has been down in the 12,000s for a while yet survived a little bit.
The Straw Men #3 (of 12) by Joe Brusha (adapter) and Brett Weldele (artist). $2.99, 24 pgs, FC, Zenoscope.
If you’re not buying this, you’re really missing out on a creepy story, or stories as the case may be, as two seemingly disparate stories continue along, presumably to meet down the road (and perhaps there’s a clue in this issue as to how they’re connected?). This issue, we mainly focus on Ward and the fact that he now believes his parents aren’t dead. He finds a videotape that moves back and forth over his and his parents’ lives and ends with a truly haunting image that gives Ward more questions about his parents than he had already. Brusha also checks in on the killer and his captive, Sarah, for a few pages. Sarah puts on a brave face and taunts her captor, but in one nice full-page panel, we see not only how scared she really is, but how scared she really should be. It’s a disturbing comic all the more because Brusha creates a mood with dialogue and some caption boxes, allowing Weldele to do a lot of work. Of course, Weldele is completely up to it, from the way he obscures the bad guy’s face to the eerie use of the videotape. This is really a wonderfully terrifying comic, and you really ought to check it out.
Sales figures for the previous two issues (#1 and 2, June and September): N/A. Not surprisingly, this is not among the top 300.
True Believers #5 (of 5) by Cary Bates (writer), Paul Gulacy (artist), Rain Beredo (colorist), and Dave Lanphear (letterer). $2.99, 22 pgs, FC, Marvel.
This nifty little mini-series comes to an end, and while it’s a bit anticlimactic, it’s still a good story that uses the reality of the Marvel Universe as a good framework. What do I mean? Well, a crucial part of the plot has to do with Civil War, and it’s nice to see books actually using this reality to generate stories, unlike a few of the issues of Avengers I’ve read, in which the reality is addressed by Carol Danvers letting everyone go and telling them that next time, she’ll really arrest them, honest and for true! The biggest problem I have with this series is that the killer of Mavis’ father is fairly obvious, but Bates isn’t really writing a true murder mystery, so I can forgive it. This series has been more about keeping and exposing secrets, and it’s been interesting to read. It’s not the greatest mini-series, but it is entertaining and gives us some interesting new characters that Marvel can now ignore or kill off at their leisure. So there’s that. Look for the trade, people!
Sales figures for the previous two issues (#3 and 4, September and October): 10,806 (rank: 172) and 8,929 (rank: 211). Yikes. Well, I guess it’s good Marvel even allowed it to reach five issues.
The Umbrella Academy: Dallas #1 by Gerard Way (writer), Gabriel Bá (artist), Dave Stewart (colorist), and Nate Piekos (letterer). $2.99, 32 pgs, FC, Dark Horse.
I loved the first Umbrella Academy series, although upon reflection I’ve decided it’s not quite as great as I initially thought. But even that isn’t that big a deal, because it was still a very cool superhero comic by a guy who hadn’t written a comic in years and was off writing goth music (is My Chemical Romance goth? it sounds like it should be, based on the name). Writers who have been working for years can’t write a decent superhero story, but Way did it his first time out. Plus, Bá’s art was truly wonderful. And now there’s a new series, and it seems like Way, having gotten some of the necessities of an introductory series out of the way, is ready to up the ante even more.
For much of the issue, we get a re-introduction to what the gang is up to now, as Spaceboy sits around watching television, the Séance gets a new hair style, Kraken brutally fights crime, and the Rumor treats the White Violin, who has no memory of almost destroying the world, poorly. The plot really ratchets up in the final pages, when Number Five is attacked by dozens, if not hundreds, of bad guys in a parking lot, and when he’s done dispatching them (bloodily), he hears something that fills him with dread. Way doesn’t do anything too revolutionary with this issue, but because we already know who’s who (unless we’ve forgotten!), the issue feels a bit tighter and more urgent. And, of course, the book begins with bang, as we’ll let the young Kraken vent: “Are we really fighting another monument?!” The sheer joy you get from reading that sentence and what it implies is why this is such a fun comic.
Oh, and Bá is brilliant. Do you really need me to tell you that? And, not to be too snooty (although I certainly enjoy being snooty), but someone involved with this comic ought to learn the difference between “discreet” and “discrete.” Yes, this makes me grumpy.
Sales figures for the previous two issues (#5 and 6, January and February): 29,736 (rank: 74) and 28,879 (rank: 66). That has to be pretty decent. I wonder how many Gerard Way fans are accounted for in these numbers, and whether they’ll come back to comics now that a new series is under way.
Unknown Soldier #2 by Joshua Dysart (writer), Alberto Ponticelli (artist), Oscar Celestini (colorist), and Clem Robins (letterer). $2.99, 23 pgs, FC, DC/Vertigo.
After a solid first issue that was hampered a bit by the need to set things up, Dysart does a good job following it up, as we get a bit more about what’s going on with Moses (not much, but a little) and some information about what must be the bigger picture and why Moses can do what he can. As usual, it involves high-level U.S. government stuff, because we don’t get enough of that in comics, but the few pages in which this is discussed have a nice, street-level feel to it, and thankfully Dysart grounds it in more real-world stuff (the horrific war in Congo, to be specific). And of course, there are sympathetic characters who aren’t long for the world, another cliché that Dysart can’t escape. But the issue crackles along, and Dysart does a nice job with the details, like what happens when kids find a rifle. So far, it’s been a interesting war comic with fine art, so I’m sticking around for a while to see where Dysart goes with it.
Sales figures for the previous issue (#1, October): 16,038 (rank: 147). I’m sure that will drop for issue #2, but it’s a decent debut.
Wasteland #22 by Antony Johnston (writer), Christopher Mitten (artist), and Douglas E. Sherwood (letterer). $3.50, 23 pgs, BW, Oni Press.
If you figure I won’t have much to say about this because every issue is so damned good, well, you’d be right for the most part. Wasteland keeps moving along, and every issue is a joy to read, because Johnston has such sure command over the narrative and Mitten is so good with the landscapes. We’re in the middle of a story arc, so characters are circling each other warily, not sure what to make of the situation, and Michael and Abi are chained to a post in the middle of it all, and Johnston does a wonderful job showing how powerful they are even though they’re chained to a post. The curiosity factor brings the Dog Tribe members to them, and they sow the seeds of dissent simply by talking to their visitors. And, of course, they don’t know that the friendly man who introduces himself on the last page is the assassin sent to kill them. That’s going to be awkward, right?
I hope people are buying this in trades, because it probably reads better in that format and sales are yucky (see below). It’s the kind of comic that you can read over and over and keep finding new and fascinating things that make the overall story more interesting. That’s partly why it’s such a good comic, beside being a grand adventure. A lot of comics are disposable entertainment (even ones I like). Wasteland is something you want to read more than once. That makes it great value as well as being a good read!
Sales figures for the previous two issues (#20 and 21, September and October): N/A. That means it’s selling less than 2,500 an issue, give or take.
Another week in the books! Next week: a day late thanks to the holiday! How will I survive the wait?!?!?!? And, because I have so much fun with this, here are some totally random lyrics:
“I got the Siamese Faith Healer’s Network
The news and weather from Peru
I got celebrity hockey
The Racketball Channel too
Bugs Bunny direct from Atlanta
Mr. Wizard is on at five
I got a satellite dish on the trunk of my car
So I can watch MTV while I drive
I’m talkin’ ’bout real quality programs
The kind you just can’t get for free
Now I never wanna leave my apartment
‘Cause there’s just so much for me to see”
Remember: You still have the weekend to enter my contest! Put down that turkey sandwich and give it a try!


















36 Comments
Stephen
November 28, 2008 at 12:40 pm
“That’s a huge drop between issues, and it came before the cancellation notice, so I wonder why it happened. ”
Was there a Secret Invasion tie-in tag on the higher-selling issue? That would be the most obvious aid to sales.
“Yikes. Well, I guess it’s good Marvel even allowed it to reach five issues.”
Minis are okay at far lower numbers, since I guess they assume they’ll make the money back on the trade. I don’t really understand the thinking – people aren’t likely to buy a low-profile TPB any more than a low-profile monthly, rare exceptions like that spike in Manhunter’s TPB sales that originally saved it aside.
Back on Batman for a second: I really think that Final Crisis is going to be the *real* last appearance of Bruce, since Hurt curses him that the NEXT time he puts on the cowl will be is “last.” Of course, in this case he’s cursing him while Bruce has already taken the cowl off – so Final Crisis will be the impetus for the disappearance, rather than Batman itself.
Dan Bailey
November 28, 2008 at 12:41 pm
>>Sales figures for the previous two issues (#33 and 34, September and October): 32,862 (rank: 70) and 22,763 (rank: 122). That’s a huge drop between issues, and it came before the cancellation notice, so I wonder why it happened.<<
#33 was a Secret Invasion tie-in & crossover with … umm … some book I couldn’t care less about. X-FACTOR? (I also couldn’t care less about Secret Invasion, of course … or, just to be fair to Marvel, Final Crisis or Batman RIP or any other stupid event thing.)
Otherwise, looks like we agree right down the line on everything I happened to buy from the above list — STRAW MEN, BLUE BEETLE, UMBRELLA ACADEMY & INCREDIBLE HERCULES.
Alas, I was done with GOLLY after the first issue. I’ve liked a lot of Hester’s stuff, but deliberately stupid characters simply aren’t the way to win my heart &/or wallet (which I guess explains why, in retrospect, I still haven’t made my way through even half of MAJOR BUMMER run, not that Hester to my knowledge had anything to do with that …).
Michael
November 28, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I’m thinking that She-Hulk drop has to be because of Secret Invasion.
Ian A.
November 28, 2008 at 1:14 pm
It’s Batman: The Brave and The Bold.
I wonder if Albuquerque will be the new artist on Teen Titans. Eddy Barrows is leaving to draw Action Comics, so there will certainly be an opening. And, Albuquerque definitely deserves a shot at a higher profile book.
Ian A.
November 28, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Also: Yeah, She-Hulk #33 was a Secret Invasion tie-in. #34 was the start of the Lady Liberators arc.
Greg Burgas
November 28, 2008 at 2:07 pm
I couldn’t remember if #33 was the Secret Invasion crossover. I wouldn’t think a crossover with X-Factor would really do that much for sales!
Thanks, Ian. I spaced on The Brave and the Bold, even though I have read it in several places over the past few weeks.
Blackjak
November 28, 2008 at 2:26 pm
The cross-over with X-Factor was ALSO part of Secret Invasion… bit of a double-whammy… And also annoying for those of us who didn’t pick up the X-Factor issues as it really jumped around… One of those “You HAVE to read both titles or you’re lost”… I didn’t… I guess there are enough Peter David fans out there who are getting all his titles anyway, so they didn’t miss out, but it did nark me…
I think the biggest problem he had taking over She-Hulk was that it seemed like it was thrust on him by Marvel. “We need Slott on Spider-Man and Initiative, here Peter, you’ve written Hulk, see what you can do with his cousin…”
I’m sure that given enough time, he could have done a sterling job, but it really did feel like he really didn’t know where to go with book… And you are right, it was/is improving… Pity…
Stephen
November 28, 2008 at 2:35 pm
“it’s the Justice League, right? I don’t watch cartoons”
Incedentally, the thought of a comic geek who didn’t watch JLU… well, scares me a bit. I didn’t know such a thing existed.
Michael
November 28, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Actually, by #33, the X-Factor part of the SI tie-in was over. She-Hulk continued with its own SI story, featuring an appearance by the Super-Skrull, after X-Factor had already stopped guest-appearing. It was kinda weird; X-Factor does part 1 of the crossover between the books, then She-Hulk does part 2, then X-Factor does part 3, then X-Factor goes back to doing its own thing while She-Hulk does two more Secret Invasion issues.
Bill Reed
November 28, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Doesn’t bother me. JLU was a really lame show. I’d hope geeks have better taste.
Brave and the Bold, meanwhile, is awesome.
Dan Bailey
November 28, 2008 at 4:04 pm
>>Incedentally, the thought of a comic geek who didn’t watch JLU… well, scares me a bit. I didn’t know such a thing existed.<<
Hmmm. Last time I watched a cartoon, Watergate hadn’t yet come to light.
TonyJazzz
November 28, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Regarding True Believers, I skipped the first issue because of the bad artwork, but then bought it and the entire series later due to my curiousity over Mr. Fantastic’s DUI. Unfortunately, the DUI was too conveniently resolved, but the story otherwise has been interesting.
However, the artwork is the reason I believe that the sales were so low. This artist seemed desparate to make it a near-pornographic series with his weird contortions of the female bodyform….
And, Greg, thank you for supplying your comments on other books. It helps me make my purchasing decisions!
Brian Cronin
November 28, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Yeah, you probably shouldn’t bother returning to Morrison’s Batman, Greg (if we ever see him return after these next two issues, period), it’s clearly not your cuppa.
Ryan Kelly
November 28, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Greg, it sounds like you have a copy of Northlanders #12 with a printing error. if your comic story is 28 pages long (22 pages plus the 6 pages that were accidentally repeated) then i think it’s all there. Hard to say without looking at it.
Nitz the Bloody
November 28, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Umbrella Academy is an awesome comic and if you do not like it you are objectively wrong. That is all for now.
s1rude
November 28, 2008 at 6:45 pm
I’ve found Golly to be a quite clever myself. Sure, the final delivery of curse-breaking water was a little “Dumb and Dumber”, but it’s also used to reinforce the personalities of these characters we’ve only recently met. And I don’t think Hester has presented these characters as stupid at all. Some, but not all, of them could be described as simple, or being interested in simple things. That doesn’t stop it from being an entertaining story about eccentric characters dealing with fantastic situations. If talking beer can father figures and demonic hell-hogs (on fire) are wrong, I don’t wanna be right.
It’s kind of weird to hear/read about comics’ fans not liking silly – I thought silly was a keystone of superhero fiction. Here it’s criticized after a comic about a demigod and merman bickering over who gets to stop warrior women from getting the belly button of power being called “marvelous”. I loves me some Incredible Herc…I’m just saying.
But then, I’m a pretty big JLU fan, so what do I know?
Dave
November 28, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Well, according to Fred Van Lente, he’s on Incredible Hercules until at least issue #140, so it’s in no danger of cancellation for about another year and a half.
Oh, and MCR’s music is kind of a goth/glam hybrid, from what little I’ve heard of it. I say this despite the fact that I’ve really only heard one song in its entirety (“Mama,”) but it basically seemed to be going for a gothed-out Queen from what I remember.
Dan Bailey
November 28, 2008 at 8:21 pm
s1rude –
>>And I don’t think Hester has presented these characters as stupid at all. Some, but not all, of them could be described as simple, or being interested in simple things.<<
After I posted my comment about GOLLY’s focus on a character I perceived as not being particularly intelligent, it occurred to me that I might be thinking about another comic (of which I believe the picked up the first — & my only — issue on the same Wednesday as GOLLY), THE HELM, instead. Regardless, for some reason GOLLY didn’t click with me.
That may well mean that *I’m* the one who’s stupid, but so it goes.
Greg Burgas
November 28, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Ryan: I only have 18 pages of story, so I’ll have to go back to the comics shoppe and see if they have a differnt copy. Confound it!
s1rude: Perhaps “silly” is the wrong word. “Childish” would be a better word. I just didn’t like the joke, and I felt the entire issue was set up that way. And I enjoyed the first three issues despite the joke, so I hope it doesn’t become a series of dumb jokes. You’re right – lots of comics are silly, and I don’t mind them at all. But I don’t like childish comics. And I love the talking beer can!
Alan Coil
November 28, 2008 at 10:02 pm
“Morrison also forces us to connect the dots far too much,…”
Morrison has said that he isn’t interested in telling every moment of every story. Some things that happen to the characters are never seen, but are just mentioned in passing, sorta like when I see my buddy once a week. He doesn’t tell me everything that happened each week. He just mentions what might be important. His son was riding a bicycle and he got hit by a car. His son wasn’t hurt very much, but the bike was destroyed. My buddy didn’t tell me what kind of bicycle it was, what kind of car it was, whether the driver was old or young, etc. He told me enough details to complete the story. Morrison writes like that. And because his stories aren’t full of nonsense details, the reader actually gets 22 pages of story every issue…unlike many writers these days who write decompressed stories where a six-issue story has enough plot for 2 issues.
Jazzbo
November 28, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Using your example, Alan, I’d say that often Morrison’s storytelling is more like your buddy just telling you “My son’s bike got wrecked,” without mentioning it had been hit by a car, or that his son was on it at the time.
Greg, you’re definitely missing story pages. I just double checked and my issue of Northlander’s has 22 pages of story. And it’s a good story, so you’ll want to get a new copy. The artist on this run is my favorite artist on the series so far, too. So it’d be a shame to miss any of his pages.
Greg Burgas
November 29, 2008 at 11:37 am
Let’s see – I bought four DC books, liked three of them, and thought Batman was decent but disappointing. I think you need to get a life instead of worrying about what books I like. And you might have noticed, if you were able to read, that I didn’t write the word “DiDio” at all in this post. But you stay classy, pal.
Anthony Cheng
November 29, 2008 at 12:08 pm
“When Morrison is great, the weirdness works in service of the story. When he’s not good, he’s still interesting, but ultimately disappointing.”
I thought I’d quote that since it’s the most reasonable position to take relative to Morrison’s work.
Greg Hatcher
November 29, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Do you ever get the feeling that there’s some sort of jihad swirling around us that we’re just not seeing? That elsewhere on the internet the legions are massing, and we occasionally get their attention by accidentally mentioning certain trigger words? DC, Marvel, Morrison, Meltzer, DiDio, continuity, reboot, JMS….
T.
November 29, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Don’t even pay that guy any mind. He’s been at this for months.
Greg Burgas
November 29, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Yeah, I know, T. I should just delete the comment, but I just wanted to point out that he’s not only insulting and stupid, he’s wrong.
CATR'S Chris
November 29, 2008 at 4:44 pm
I also thought the conclusion to Batman R.I.P. was a huuuuuuuuuuuge disappointment. There’s not much to add to what’s already been said, though.
Walid Koussa
November 30, 2008 at 5:46 am
“Morrison has said that he isn’t interested in telling every moment of every story. Some things that happen to the characters are never seen, but are just mentioned in passing, sorta like when I see my buddy once a week. He doesn’t tell me everything that happened each week.”
Yeah, but if I was reading a comic about you, I’d expect that. If I was reading a comic about your buddy, though, I’d expect more stuff happening to him, rather than just him doling out random details.
Pity about She-Hulk, it was improving.
Bumblebeeb
December 1, 2008 at 11:38 am
I think the reason Blue Beetle hung on as long as it did is because it’s one of DC Editorial’s favorite books. DiDio loved Blue Beetle, and tried to give it every chance possible. Unfortunately, as usual, at the end of the day it’s all about the sales.
It really is a shame, too. Blue Beetle is a great bridge comic for kids who are too old to read the Johnny DC line but aren’t ready to read something as violent as, say, Green Lantern Corps.
Lee
December 1, 2008 at 12:50 pm
The random lyrics are from the song “Cable TV” by “Weird Al” Yankovic. I can’t believe comic fans didn’t know a Weird Al lyric….
Greg Burgas
December 1, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I was getting worried that no one would get them, Lee!
Anonymous
December 2, 2008 at 10:16 am
Hey Greg,
Glad you enjoyed WASTELAND this month – as for sales, well, this is why many of us moan about the sales figures released/estimated every month. Our issue sales are quite healthy for our market, and certainly more than the 2500 estimated here. That said, you’re right to assume many more people buy the collections. Nevertheless, as is often the case, it’s those monthly issue sales that keep the book going.
antony
December 2, 2008 at 10:17 am
Whoops, that last comment was of course me. Forgot to put the info in, sorry.
Greg Burgas
December 2, 2008 at 11:39 am
Antony: I’m glad to hear sales are better than that, because I know those numbers are off quite a bit. It would be nice to see if there was a way to get a better estimate about what’s selling and what’s not!
antony
December 2, 2008 at 11:57 am
Unfortunately, that’s basically impossible. Even if Diamond were to update their numbers with late orders, re-orders, etc., it would still only tell you how many were bought by retailers, not sell-through to the public. One could argue the two figures would cancel each other out, and maybe they would, but I suspect that most indies would fare better out of the equation. Ah, well. I know you guys are just reporting the numbers given you by Diamond, it just irks me (and many other creators) that some people place so much stock in them.
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