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		<title>By: Antonio Tadeu Ferreira Sobrinho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio Tadeu Ferreira Sobrinho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PC1975</title>
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		<dc:creator>PC1975</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from that episode of Namor goes to the Mayor.</description>
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		<title>By: Autopath</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/12/11/umm-namor/comment-page-3/#comment-697286</link>
		<dc:creator>Autopath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I juat want to say that....I don&#039;t read this series...don&#039;t have any idea what&#039;s going on with anything but my friend linked me to this page four days ago and...I...I can&#039;t stop looking at Namor. I just can&#039;t stop. It&#039;s utterly fascinating in all its......awful, AWFUL glory.

Ever seen A Clockwork Orange? Remember when Alex&#039;s eyes are pried open and he&#039;s forced to watch terrible images? I feel like that....only after a while...I started to WANT to see Namor like this.

What&#039;s wrong with me??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I juat want to say that&#8230;.I don&#8217;t read this series&#8230;don&#8217;t have any idea what&#8217;s going on with anything but my friend linked me to this page four days ago and&#8230;I&#8230;I can&#8217;t stop looking at Namor. I just can&#8217;t stop. It&#8217;s utterly fascinating in all its&#8230;&#8230;awful, AWFUL glory.</p>
<p>Ever seen A Clockwork Orange? Remember when Alex&#8217;s eyes are pried open and he&#8217;s forced to watch terrible images? I feel like that&#8230;.only after a while&#8230;I started to WANT to see Namor like this.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with me??</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Rice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m good!  Especially if you can find a way for me to sleep a couple extra hours . . .</description>
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		<title>By: Jbird</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/12/11/umm-namor/comment-page-3/#comment-697166</link>
		<dc:creator>Jbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly didn&#039;t mind this. A sneering, scraggly-ass Namor fits just as well with his character as the classic portrayal. What I thought didn&#039;t work was the 19-year-old Hood who just arrived from the Disturbed show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly didn&#8217;t mind this. A sneering, scraggly-ass Namor fits just as well with his character as the classic portrayal. What I thought didn&#8217;t work was the 19-year-old Hood who just arrived from the Disturbed show.</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is â€œEuro-trashâ€ similar to Americaâ€™s â€œRedneckâ€?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They mean totally different sorts of people, rednecks and eurotrash have very different characteristics, but if you mean in the sense that the term only refers to a certain type of person, then yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is â€œEuro-trashâ€ similar to Americaâ€™s â€œRedneckâ€?</p></blockquote>
<p>They mean totally different sorts of people, rednecks and eurotrash have very different characteristics, but if you mean in the sense that the term only refers to a certain type of person, then yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Karindu, back from an Internet Thogal ritual</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/12/11/umm-namor/comment-page-3/#comment-697050</link>
		<dc:creator>Omar Karindu, back from an Internet Thogal ritual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to reiterate my apology to Joe Rice, and to apologize to Dan Apodaca.  We all good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to reiterate my apology to Joe Rice, and to apologize to Dan Apodaca.  We all good?</p>
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		<title>By: Alonso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I so wanted this to be a joke. And it so isn&#039;t.

This trashy, hideous Namor deserves that Sue Richards with the cut-out prosti-tume from the mid-nineties.

Yuck. (And that&#039;s not even hitting on the characterizations!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so wanted this to be a joke. And it so isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>This trashy, hideous Namor deserves that Sue Richards with the cut-out prosti-tume from the mid-nineties.</p>
<p>Yuck. (And that&#8217;s not even hitting on the characterizations!)</p>
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		<title>By: fourthworlder</title>
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		<dc:creator>fourthworlder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He reminds me of Verbal (Kevin Spacey) from the Usual Suspects. 
So be careful around him.

And I think Eurotrash would describe itself as a whole other SPECIES from redneck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He reminds me of Verbal (Kevin Spacey) from the Usual Suspects.<br />
So be careful around him.</p>
<p>And I think Eurotrash would describe itself as a whole other SPECIES from redneck.</p>
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		<title>By: ZZZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZZZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Osborn was clearly threatening them with the thing in the shadows from The Order of the Stick.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0103.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Osborn was clearly threatening them with the thing in the shadows from The Order of the Stick.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0103.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0103.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan Coil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Coil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &quot;Euro-trash&quot; similar to America&#039;s &quot;Redneck&quot;?</description>
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		<title>By: sgt pepper</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgt pepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Maleev was fully aware that he was drawing Namor off model.  It&#039;s pretty obvious that he was playing what if Namor looked like a real person instead of an idealized god-man.  Namor drawn like this fits into Maleev&#039;s style and the rest of the comic.  Hyper-masculine (hyper-sexualized?) clean lined Namor would not.  For me, one of the cool things about comics is to see different artists&#039; takes on characters.  I will admit to enjoying watching so many of you cry when someone dares to break one of your toys.

Dudes!  Did you see how Dalrymple drew Omega the Unknown!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Maleev was fully aware that he was drawing Namor off model.  It&#8217;s pretty obvious that he was playing what if Namor looked like a real person instead of an idealized god-man.  Namor drawn like this fits into Maleev&#8217;s style and the rest of the comic.  Hyper-masculine (hyper-sexualized?) clean lined Namor would not.  For me, one of the cool things about comics is to see different artists&#8217; takes on characters.  I will admit to enjoying watching so many of you cry when someone dares to break one of your toys.</p>
<p>Dudes!  Did you see how Dalrymple drew Omega the Unknown!</p>
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		<title>By: schiezerforbrains</title>
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		<dc:creator>schiezerforbrains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe bendis has been handling the sentry too much...I think it explains a lot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe bendis has been handling the sentry too much&#8230;I think it explains a lot</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s gotta be evil Sentry (aka The Void), as The Void has been established as being a world-class threat that would give even Dr. Doom pause (and Bendis is currently the only writer handling the Sentry, so it makes sense that he&#039;d use him - especially as the concept of this series is that the bad guys are in charge now).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s gotta be evil Sentry (aka The Void), as The Void has been established as being a world-class threat that would give even Dr. Doom pause (and Bendis is currently the only writer handling the Sentry, so it makes sense that he&#8217;d use him &#8211; especially as the concept of this series is that the bad guys are in charge now).</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Black Rail

I&#039;m guessing it was the Beyonder, solely because Bendis used him in his Illumanti mini-series.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m guessing it was the Beyonder, solely because Bendis used him in his Illumanti mini-series.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Rail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Rail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the old Silver Age Sub-mariner Namor sometimes would walk &quot;amongst the world of men&quot; dressed as a hobo, but the beard he had was fake, and he would ditch completely the hobo look the moment he had to fight the Thing or Tiger Shark or whomever.  This Bendis/Maleev look of Namor is so completely out of character: this is the sole hero in the Marvel Universe that Dr. Doom has any respect for, and Namor himself is so vainglorious he would never, ever look like a washed-up, down-on-his-luck gigolo who was working at a sleazy, second-rate male strip club.  Even if he were homeless, the character would (like the deposed aristocrats of old) keep up the appearances befitting a monarch.  If B &amp; M were referencing the hobo look, they could have had some sign of it, like the old coat draped over his chair or Namor removing his fake beard when he came in.  Will they blame the inker?

Great points, SSC.  Also, the Loki was off too.  &quot;He&quot; would look more like Valkyrie in the Ultimates than a over-buxom viking from the old Capital One ads (is that the correct reference?).

By the way, who was the blob behind the door that Osborn was threatening everyone with?  Would any of them in the room be frightened/cowed by anyone other than Galactus, maybe?  Is it the Dark Sentry who appeared in early in Secret Invasion (or was it an Avengers title?), or is this another dropped plot line?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the old Silver Age Sub-mariner Namor sometimes would walk &#8220;amongst the world of men&#8221; dressed as a hobo, but the beard he had was fake, and he would ditch completely the hobo look the moment he had to fight the Thing or Tiger Shark or whomever.  This Bendis/Maleev look of Namor is so completely out of character: this is the sole hero in the Marvel Universe that Dr. Doom has any respect for, and Namor himself is so vainglorious he would never, ever look like a washed-up, down-on-his-luck gigolo who was working at a sleazy, second-rate male strip club.  Even if he were homeless, the character would (like the deposed aristocrats of old) keep up the appearances befitting a monarch.  If B &amp; M were referencing the hobo look, they could have had some sign of it, like the old coat draped over his chair or Namor removing his fake beard when he came in.  Will they blame the inker?</p>
<p>Great points, SSC.  Also, the Loki was off too.  &#8220;He&#8221; would look more like Valkyrie in the Ultimates than a over-buxom viking from the old Capital One ads (is that the correct reference?).</p>
<p>By the way, who was the blob behind the door that Osborn was threatening everyone with?  Would any of them in the room be frightened/cowed by anyone other than Galactus, maybe?  Is it the Dark Sentry who appeared in early in Secret Invasion (or was it an Avengers title?), or is this another dropped plot line?</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;heâ€™sâ€™ not going to suddenly seem to be losing his hair&quot;

Namor&#039;s always had a high hairline, with a widow&#039;s peak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;heâ€™sâ€™ not going to suddenly seem to be losing his hair&#8221;</p>
<p>Namor&#8217;s always had a high hairline, with a widow&#8217;s peak.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the term, as I understand it - and the obvious problem is that everyoneâ€™s defining it differently - is generally applied to idle rich young Europeans who are all image and no substance and live to party, usually on their parentsâ€™ dime.&quot;

I&#039;d definitely say those can be indicative of Eurotrash, but I always understood the term to be more about their general sleaziness, arrogance, and lothario-style of behavior. The fashion&#039;s a big part of it, too. Those guys are always displaying chest hair, and love going sleeveless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the term, as I understand it &#8211; and the obvious problem is that everyoneâ€™s defining it differently &#8211; is generally applied to idle rich young Europeans who are all image and no substance and live to party, usually on their parentsâ€™ dime.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d definitely say those can be indicative of Eurotrash, but I always understood the term to be more about their general sleaziness, arrogance, and lothario-style of behavior. The fashion&#8217;s a big part of it, too. Those guys are always displaying chest hair, and love going sleeveless.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;i mean one can argue, as so many countries donâ€™t exactly love the United States, that America is full of arrogant dicks who think theyâ€™re better than everybody else, so why not say American-Trash? But, no, itâ€™s easier to put a slight on Europeans or Canada.&quot;

Well, America IS full of dicks who think they&#039;re better than everybody else. We call them &quot;Bros&quot;, where I come from.

I guess you assumed that my remark was some sort of generalization about all Europeans. It wasn&#039;t, actually. And now you&#039;re the one generalizing about Americans, painting every single one of us as blind douchebag ethnocentrists.

The word should only be offensive to you if you actually are Eurotrash. If not, then you shouldn&#039;t feel insulted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;i mean one can argue, as so many countries donâ€™t exactly love the United States, that America is full of arrogant dicks who think theyâ€™re better than everybody else, so why not say American-Trash? But, no, itâ€™s easier to put a slight on Europeans or Canada.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, America IS full of dicks who think they&#8217;re better than everybody else. We call them &#8220;Bros&#8221;, where I come from.</p>
<p>I guess you assumed that my remark was some sort of generalization about all Europeans. It wasn&#8217;t, actually. And now you&#8217;re the one generalizing about Americans, painting every single one of us as blind douchebag ethnocentrists.</p>
<p>The word should only be offensive to you if you actually are Eurotrash. If not, then you shouldn&#8217;t feel insulted.</p>
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		<title>By: Splendid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Splendid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a shame what this book has come to. Writing thats sloppy. An artist with no a vision that&#039;s blurred by alcohol.
And the fact that the look of namor totally took away from the book gave me no interest in reading it or picking it up for that matter. My already filthy hands wouldn&#039;t dare touch it.

Whats the matter with Marvel&#039;s branding these days- should be the real topic of discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a shame what this book has come to. Writing thats sloppy. An artist with no a vision that&#8217;s blurred by alcohol.<br />
And the fact that the look of namor totally took away from the book gave me no interest in reading it or picking it up for that matter. My already filthy hands wouldn&#8217;t dare touch it.</p>
<p>Whats the matter with Marvel&#8217;s branding these days- should be the real topic of discussion!</p>
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