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	<title>Comments on: Comic Book Legends Revealed #186</title>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Jaghead&quot;.

For whatever it&#039;s worth, &quot;jaghead&quot; doesn&#039;t show up in the Oxford English Dictionary, the Dictionary of American Regional English, A Dictionary of Americanisms, A Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English, The Macmillan Dictionary of Historical Slang, or A Dictionary of American Slang.

&quot;Jughead&quot;, however, shows up in the OED, DARE, and DAS with definitions such as &quot;A mule or horse with a large, chunky head; by extension, a stupid or stubborn one&quot; and &quot;a person&#039;s head; a slow or stupid person.&quot; (Both of these are from DARE, but similar definitions appear in the others.)

The quotes date back to 1924 in DARE and to 1926 in the OED -- at least a decade and a half before the character&#039;s first appearance.

I don&#039;t know where you found mention of the supposed slang term &quot;jaghead&quot;, but it doesn&#039;t appear to be documented in any of the standard reference works where one would expect to find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: "Jaghead".</p>
<p>For whatever it's worth, "jaghead" doesn't show up in the Oxford English Dictionary, the Dictionary of American Regional English, A Dictionary of Americanisms, A Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English, The Macmillan Dictionary of Historical Slang, or A Dictionary of American Slang.</p>
<p>"Jughead", however, shows up in the OED, DARE, and DAS with definitions such as "A mule or horse with a large, chunky head; by extension, a stupid or stubborn one" and "a person's head; a slow or stupid person." (Both of these are from DARE, but similar definitions appear in the others.)</p>
<p>The quotes date back to 1924 in DARE and to 1926 in the OED -- at least a decade and a half before the character's first appearance.</p>
<p>I don't know where you found mention of the supposed slang term "jaghead", but it doesn't appear to be documented in any of the standard reference works where one would expect to find it.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Kaprat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent Kaprat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That jughead article makes for a fun fact.  I&#039;ve wondered about the purpose of that crown myself. Thanks for solving one of life&#039;s mysteries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That jughead article makes for a fun fact.  I've wondered about the purpose of that crown myself. Thanks for solving one of life's mysteries.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any idea who was the &quot;D. Hands&quot; behind the inking on Marvel&#039;s Star Trek #13 (in their original line) with an April 1981 cover date.

According to Memory Alpha:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/All_the_Infinite_Ways

This version of the pseudonym included Marie Severin.  Any idea who else might have been involved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any idea who was the "D. Hands" behind the inking on Marvel's Star Trek #13 (in their original line) with an April 1981 cover date.</p>
<p>According to Memory Alpha:<br />
<a href="http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/All_the_Infinite_Ways" rel="nofollow">http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/All_the_Infinite_Ways</a></p>
<p>This version of the pseudonym included Marie Severin.  Any idea who else might have been involved?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was Infinity Chalice?  Was it a canceled proposal or did the story end up as Infinity Abyss, Marvel the End or Galactus the Devourer?</description>
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		<title>By: yen4zen</title>
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		<dc:creator>yen4zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes, the geeks have come out... .

Brian, it may be easier for you to limit your album covers by comic book artists to those albums that have actually sold more than, let&#039;s say, 1000 copies or something reasonable.  (Maybe 10,000 or 100,000 copies, depending on your mood?  Or maybe, let&#039;s say, hit the Billboard top 500 at any given point in history?)  Half the albums mentioned so far probably don&#039;t have content that&#039;s listenable ... 

Cub?  Iced Earth?  Cannibal Corpse?  Jim&#039;s Big Ego?  Yeah, they all hit that national spotlight..... *wheeze*

Really, a song about Barry Allen?  And I thought Queen&#039;s &quot;Flash&quot; sucked royally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes, the geeks have come out... .</p>
<p>Brian, it may be easier for you to limit your album covers by comic book artists to those albums that have actually sold more than, let's say, 1000 copies or something reasonable.  (Maybe 10,000 or 100,000 copies, depending on your mood?  Or maybe, let's say, hit the Billboard top 500 at any given point in history?)  Half the albums mentioned so far probably don't have content that's listenable ... </p>
<p>Cub?  Iced Earth?  Cannibal Corpse?  Jim's Big Ego?  Yeah, they all hit that national spotlight..... *wheeze*</p>
<p>Really, a song about Barry Allen?  And I thought Queen's "Flash" sucked royally.</p>
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		<title>By: John Morgan 'Bat' Neal</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Morgan 'Bat' Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.archiecomics.com used to have the Jughead hat for sale, I got one last Christmas.  Prized possession. I always wanted one growing up. 

Also Entertainment Weekly&#039;s EW.com had this story about Archie and revealed this little tibdit from an upcoming book by Bob Montana&#039;s widow Peg Bertholet:


 Montana&#039;s widow is working on a book, The Golden Years of Newspaper Comics, that will clear up some mysteries about Riverdale, such as the meaning of the letter S on Jughead&#039;s shirt. The people at Archie headquarters in Mamaroneck, N.Y., aren&#039;t saying what that S stands for, but Bertholet will. &#039;&#039;Jughead&#039;s S refers to a place called Skunk Hill in Haverhill, which Bob turned into Squirrel Hill.&#039;&#039; Bob&#039;s elementary school near Haverhill called its athletic teams the Tigers. &#039;&#039;So,&#039;&#039; Bertholet concludes, &#039;&#039;Jughead&#039;s S meant &#039;Squirrel Hill Independent Tigers,&#039; and you couldn&#039;t abbreviate it any other way.&#039;&#039; Jughead, the seer who never opens his eyes, voices his indifference to society in the silent, not-quite-scatological cryptogram on his shirt. He&#039;s a letterman in the sport of rebellion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.archiecomics.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.archiecomics.com</a> used to have the Jughead hat for sale, I got one last Christmas.  Prized possession. I always wanted one growing up. </p>
<p>Also Entertainment Weekly's EW.com had this story about Archie and revealed this little tibdit from an upcoming book by Bob Montana's widow Peg Bertholet:</p>
<p> Montana's widow is working on a book, The Golden Years of Newspaper Comics, that will clear up some mysteries about Riverdale, such as the meaning of the letter S on Jughead's shirt. The people at Archie headquarters in Mamaroneck, N.Y., aren't saying what that S stands for, but Bertholet will. ''Jughead's S refers to a place called Skunk Hill in Haverhill, which Bob turned into Squirrel Hill.'' Bob's elementary school near Haverhill called its athletic teams the Tigers. ''So,'' Bertholet concludes, ''Jughead's S meant 'Squirrel Hill Independent Tigers,' and you couldn't abbreviate it any other way.'' Jughead, the seer who never opens his eyes, voices his indifference to society in the silent, not-quite-scatological cryptogram on his shirt. He's a letterman in the sport of rebellion.</p>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I would include Hewlett, although as co-member/creator of the band itself, heâ€™s on a different level here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
True, but he also used to do Senseless Things covers.

I believe Shakey Kane has done some album covers too - I couldn&#039;t tell you what though.

And Dave Gibbons also did the cover to the one and only &quot;The Madness&quot; album.  (The Madness were Madness with everything that made them great removed)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I would include Hewlett, although as co-member/creator of the band itself, heâ€™s on a different level here.</p></blockquote>
<p>True, but he also used to do Senseless Things covers.</p>
<p>I believe Shakey Kane has done some album covers too - I couldn't tell you what though.</p>
<p>And Dave Gibbons also did the cover to the one and only "The Madness" album.  (The Madness were Madness with everything that made them great removed)</p>
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		<title>By: Bright-Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bright-Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim DeMulder did some of the M. Hands / D. Hands work, too - he just mentioned it over on his DeviantArt blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim DeMulder did some of the M. Hands / D. Hands work, too - he just mentioned it over on his DeviantArt blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On The Album art thing......I&#039;m pretty sure Steve Ditko&#039;s version of Dr. Strange is on Pink Floyd&#039;s, A Saucerful of Secrets album front cover. You&#039;ve got to stare at it awhile as several images are overlapped. I&#039;ve always wondered if there were copyright issues involved. They also mention Dr. Strange by name on a later album.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On The Album art thing......I'm pretty sure Steve Ditko's version of Dr. Strange is on Pink Floyd's, A Saucerful of Secrets album front cover. You've got to stare at it awhile as several images are overlapped. I've always wondered if there were copyright issues involved. They also mention Dr. Strange by name on a later album.</p>
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		<title>By: twisted musingsÂ® &#187; Archive &#187; Jughead? What kinda name is that?</title>
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		<dc:creator>twisted musingsÂ® &#187; Archive &#187; Jughead? What kinda name is that?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fans of Archie Comics would all know who Archie&#8217;s pal Jughead is, but have you ever wondered where the origin of his name came from? Brian Cronin over at CBR has an extensive article on the origin of Jughead&#8217;s name (and his crown) which makes for fascinating reading (especially if you&#8217;re interested in the history of comics). The article can be found here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fans of Archie Comics would all know who Archie&#8217;s pal Jughead is, but have you ever wondered where the origin of his name came from? Brian Cronin over at CBR has an extensive article on the origin of Jughead&#8217;s name (and his crown) which makes for fascinating reading (especially if you&#8217;re interested in the history of comics). The article can be found here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fernando Ruiz is an unpleasant individual with some VERY bizarre ideas. He has done some very dubious things on line under a pen name.</description>
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		<title>By: R.Birkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.Birkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles Burns did the cover for Iggy Pop&#039;s &quot;Brick by Brick&quot; album.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Burns did the cover for Iggy Pop's "Brick by Brick" album.</p>
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		<title>By: Arjay the Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arjay the Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that cover for Korn&#039;s &quot;Follow the Leader&quot; is actually by Greg Capullo. 

(in my opinion he did an even better job on Spawn than McFarlane ever did)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that cover for Korn's "Follow the Leader" is actually by Greg Capullo. </p>
<p>(in my opinion he did an even better job on Spawn than McFarlane ever did)</p>
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		<title>By: MaryCherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaryCherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Jughead borrowed the shirt from his cousin Souphead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Jughead borrowed the shirt from his cousin Souphead.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blimey, I always thought Jughead was wearing a paper hat from a Christmas cracker.

I wonder if the Gerry Rafferty John Byrne is the Scottish playwright (Tutti Frutti, The Slab Boys) and painter. Hang on . ..  yup.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byrne_(Scottish_artist)

Regarding made up comic credits, I know about David V Reed, but who was Nellie Rooke, who answered DC lettercol queries in the Seventies in such books as Wonder Woman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blimey, I always thought Jughead was wearing a paper hat from a Christmas cracker.</p>
<p>I wonder if the Gerry Rafferty John Byrne is the Scottish playwright (Tutti Frutti, The Slab Boys) and painter. Hang on . ..  yup.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byrne_(Scottish_artist)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byrne_(Scottish_artist)</a></p>
<p>Regarding made up comic credits, I know about David V Reed, but who was Nellie Rooke, who answered DC lettercol queries in the Seventies in such books as Wonder Woman?</p>
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		<title>By: Les McClaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les McClaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m fairly certain that Charles Fortier is right about Jughead&#039;s name being based on his large ears-- it was not an uncommon nickname in the 1930&#039;s. My grandparents had a friend in high school they continued to call Jughead into the nineties, based on his large, jug-handle-like ears.

I&#039;ve seen Victor Gorelick stumped by what the &quot;S&quot; stands for, though, so I don&#039;t think there&#039;s really an answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm fairly certain that Charles Fortier is right about Jughead's name being based on his large ears-- it was not an uncommon nickname in the 1930's. My grandparents had a friend in high school they continued to call Jughead into the nineties, based on his large, jug-handle-like ears.</p>
<p>I've seen Victor Gorelick stumped by what the "S" stands for, though, so I don't think there's really an answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Marianne Farleybaconcheeseburgercombo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marianne Farleybaconcheeseburgercombo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pseudonymous inkers...I wonder if they could do that with artists too? Might as well. The artist by committee approach is even more used trying to make deadlines for all the event tie-ins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pseudonymous inkers...I wonder if they could do that with artists too? Might as well. The artist by committee approach is even more used trying to make deadlines for all the event tie-ins.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for the fantastic demystifying of Jug&#039;s beanie--but I must say, what has always baffled me more than the beanie/moniker: what is the derivation of the S on his shirt?!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for the fantastic demystifying of Jug's beanie--but I must say, what has always baffled me more than the beanie/moniker: what is the derivation of the S on his shirt?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thenodrin:  I believe Android Images was David Hornung&#039;s coloring business.  I don&#039;t know if he used that name alone, or as head of a workshop.  To my knowledge, Android Images did no inks, only colors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thenodrin:  I believe Android Images was David Hornung's coloring business.  I don't know if he used that name alone, or as head of a workshop.  To my knowledge, Android Images did no inks, only colors.</p>
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		<title>By: Customart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Customart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, I just want to point out that the Disturbed and Korn albums are actually pencilled by Greg Capullo and INKED by Todd Mcfarlane.  Mcfarlane gets all the credit, every time, but it&#039;s actually the underappreciated Capullo whose making it shine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, I just want to point out that the Disturbed and Korn albums are actually pencilled by Greg Capullo and INKED by Todd Mcfarlane.  Mcfarlane gets all the credit, every time, but it's actually the underappreciated Capullo whose making it shine.</p>
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