Comments on: Top 100 Comic Book Battles: 90-86

By: comb & razor

comb & razor — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:50:23 +0000

Avengers vs. Nefaria really stands out in my mind... and like Pedro BouÃ§a said, i always saw it as "Avengers vs. Superman."

By: Jbird

Jbird — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:43:32 +0000

Wondered when that Firelord one was gonna come up. The simple truth is that TONS of these involve Spider-Man. Scrappy dude with just enough power to take on the world, and enough sympathy to win OR lose with heart.

By: Pedro BouÃ§a

Pedro BouÃ§a — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:05:59 +0000

The Nefaria story is my favorite ever! It's essentially Superman vs. The Avengers, back when the team didn't have it own "Superman" (oh, how I hate the Sentry!).

Best,
Hunter (Pedro BouÃ§a)

By: Annoyed Grunt

Annoyed Grunt — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:21:07 +0000

That Spider-man annual had one of my favourite moments as a kid where Aunt May is kidnapped but didn't realize it. When Peter saves her at the end he asks 'are you shook up?" (or something like that) and she scolds him for bad language.

By: danjack

danjack — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:53:36 +0000

i really enjoyed the Spidey Vs. Firelord battle, but the Cap Vs. Red Skull was epic. This has everything that you need to know about Cap. Tough, smart, and undefeatable, even in the face of ultimate power! i even had that comic at one point, but sold it to my LCS so that i could buy some crappy '90s comics. Ah youth is wasted on the wrong people! :[

By: Cass

Cass — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:25:13 +0000

I actually have the Sandman splash page from Annual #1 as a T-shirt. It's so awesome and even says like "Whap!" where Spider-Man's fist meets Sandy's face. The Firelord fight reads like a sequel to the Juggernaut fight and I'm sure DeFalco had that story in mind when he wrote these issues. As Rusty said, don't apply RPG logic to it. Really, neither Juggernaut nor Firelord really treated Spider-Man as a serious foe, but more as an annoyance. In light of this, its not completely unfeasible that Spidey would win.

By: Cully C

Cully C — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:56:13 +0000

Ditko's full page panels of Spidey punching out each of the villians in the 1st annual are some of my favorite Ditko panels ever. Everyone should read this book and witness Stan and Steve at their best.

By: jazzbo

jazzbo — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:42:08 +0000

I've read all of these aside from the Spider-Man ones, but I've always meant to track down the Spidey vs Firelord issues. Pretty good battles in all of these.

By: Bill Reed

Bill Reed — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:15:34 +0000

That first Spidey Annual is one of the most fun comics ever made.

By: Scott MacIver

Scott MacIver — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:50:46 +0000

I have not read any of these. Huh. They look cool enough.

By: Teebore

Teebore — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:49:02 +0000

Yeah, that three issue Avengers story is one of my all time favorites as well.

By: superactiongo

superactiongo — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:16:36 +0000

The middle issue of the Avengers/Nefaria fight was the first Avengers I ever read and still holds two of my favorite moments from the entire series: Iron Man nearly taking him down solo and surprising him, and then the final scene appearance of Thor and Nefaria's genuine fear (even though he'd been bragging about wishing Thor were there the whole time). Great stuff.

By: Johnny Bacardi

Johnny Bacardi — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:46:24 +0000

They didn't do the Sinister Six again for three decades, but a couple of years later Stan reprised the gimmick in 1967's Daredevil Annual #1, with DD's less stellar cast of villains.

By: Rusty Priske

Rusty Priske — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:34:01 +0000

Agreed.

I see people complain about it, but this story is one of the reasons that people shouldn't use 'rpg' logic in fiction.

By: Ant

Ant — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:22:55 +0000

Always loved that Spider-Man/Firelord fight.
Glad to see it made the list.